Rebel is Rebecca Carroll's regular conversation on race and pop culture. You can hear Rebecca talk about these issues with guests on Wednesday mornings on WNYC, or participate in one of Rebel's regular conversations in The Greene Space.

This week's Rebel interview is with art historian Jessica Bell Brown, the curator of a new exhibit at Gracie Mansion in collaboration with First Lady Chirlane McCray. "She Persists: A Century of Women Artists in New York City" features over 40 artists and collectives connected to the city, and is the largest installation of its kind to be mounted in the history of Gracie Mansion.

We asked Brown why this show is relevant now. She said, "Why now? Why not now? The women in this show are not only artists, they're filmmakers, they're activists, educators, war veterans in the case of Ruth Orkin and in this era of Me Too, Say Her Name, Time's Up, it's time for us to take charge and really envision a new future."

The full conversation is below.

"She Persists" will be open to the public starting February 4th (here are details about visiting Gracie Mansion).

Rebecca Carroll is a cultural critic and Editor of Special Projects at WNYC, where she develops, produces and hosts a broad array of multi-platform content, including podcasts, live events and on-air broadcasts. Rebecca is also a critic at large for the Los Angeles Times, and a regular columnist at Shondaland in addition to Gothamist. She is the author of several interview-based books about race and blackness in America, including the award-winning Sugar in the Raw, and her personal essays, cultural commentary and opinion pieces have been published widely.