Schumer and Dunham at the Met Ball. (Getty)

In the latest Lenny Letter, Lena Dunham spoke with Amy Schumer about pretty much everything: from the recent Kurt Metzger blow-up, to the strength of women, to Schumer's new book and how she auditioned to be Shoshanna on Girls, to what it's like having everything you say get taken out of context, to what it's really like being inside the Met Ball. Let's start there:

Lena Dunham:

You and I were literally sitting across from each other at the Met Ball, and it was like a crazy countdown to when we could escape. You were like, “We’re honored to be here. We’re honored to be here.”

Amy Schumer:

I left so early. When did you leave?


I attempted to grind my ass on Michael B. Jordan for an additional twenty minutes and then left right after you. I was sitting next to Odell Beckham Jr., and it was so amazing because it was like he looked at me and he determined I was not the shape of a woman by his standards. He was like, “That’s a marshmallow. That’s a child. That’s a dog.” It wasn’t mean — he just seemed confused.

The vibe was very much like, “Do I want to fuck it? Is it wearing a … yep, it’s wearing a tuxedo. I’m going to go back to my cell phone.” It was like we were forced to be together, and he literally was scrolling Instagram rather than have to look at a woman in a bow tie. I was like, “This should be called the Metropolitan Museum of Getting Rejected by Athletes.”

Update: Dunham has apologized for projecting her insecurities onto Odell Beckham Jr. and making "totally narcissistic assumptions about what he was thinking":

I owe Odell Beckham Jr an apology. Despite my moments of bravado, I struggle at industry events (and in life) with the sense that I don't rep a certain standard of beauty and so when I show up to the Met Ball surrounded by models and swan-like actresses it's hard not to feel like a sack of flaming garbage. This felt especially intense with a handsome athlete as my dinner companion and a bunch of women I was sure he'd rather be seated with. But I went ahead and projected these insecurities and made totally narcissistic assumptions about what he was thinking, then presented those assumptions as facts. I feel terrible about it. Because after listening to lots of valid criticism, I see how unfair it is to ascribe misogynistic thoughts to someone I don't know AT ALL. Like, we have never met, I have no idea the kind of day he's having or what his truth is. But most importantly, I would never intentionally contribute to a long and often violent history of the over-sexualization of black male bodies- as well as false accusations by white women towards black men. I'm so sorry, particularly to OBJ, who has every right to be on his cell phone. The fact is I don't know about his state of mind (I don't know a lot of things) and I shouldn't have acted like I did. Much love and thanks, Lena

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You can read the full interview here, where Schumer also discusses the recent Kurt Metzger uproar, where the former Inside Amy Schumer writer went on a rampage about how women handle rape. Schumer herself was called out to respond to his rants, and eventually said she was "disappointed" in him. In the interview with Dunham, she sheds a little light on the situation and the man behind it:

"First I was like, fuck Kurt. It’s been years that he’s been doing this. He’s one of those guys, like a lot of the guys that I’m friends with, who are degenerates. Kurt was saying this awful stuff, and in previous years, I would be like, 'You’ve got to shut up.' Then it would kind of go away. This time, it was just so bad. What he was saying was horrific, and he was being a troll. He can be an Internet troll. I do understand that [Kurt’s actions] would come back to me. I get it, and I wasn’t even resentful of the connection. I was resentful of the lack of trust. Like, 'Have I earned any good will with you guys? Do you believe that I feel that rape victims should be shamed on the internet? Have I built up any sort of good will?'”

Update: You can read the full interview here, but some of it has been changed.