Also, tell me, how much do you get for your paid trolling gig?

Wow.  Pure, raw hatred and uncivilized douchebaggery is flourishing in the US.

I guess lots of you people are glad Occupy came along since you're not allowed to openly hate black people anymore.

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Funny how they only started calling it "class warfare" when working people started fighting back. What was it before then?

RW, there was a time in America when the success of another was something to be desired, not ridiculed. Observing a rich man was often a catalyst for someone's own journey toward prosperity. Now everyone wants to destroy someone's productivity. It's not "fair" that someone worked their ass off to get ahead. Now it's suspicious and the Marxists are quick to claim the rich man took advantage of others in order to become wealthy. This is one of the biggest lies of Marxism. Marx claimed that only after men could create surplus, the idea of owning private property came into being. And from that came the idea of the "haves" and the "have nots." It was in the 1800's when such ideas started to crystallize. The problem with Marxism is when you remove the rewards of one's own labor, (and everyone gets the same results, whether they worked for it or not), then a different resentment sets in, which today can be seen in many working people's attitude toward welfare. Always ask the question: who benefits from stirring up class warfare? Not the proletariat, that's for damn sure.

You think that most wealthy people work their ass off to get ahead?  How quaint.

EDIT: Also, you have a college freshman's understanding of Marxism. Jus sayin.

EDIT EDIT: And furthermore, history is not univocal, and it's rhetorical hogwash to say that "there was a time in America" anything. History is polyvocal and defies your bullshit attempts to bend it to your ideological commitments.

Spoken like a true brainwashed pseudo-intellectual. You've done your leftist professors proud. Too bad you're ill-equipped to actually contribute anything useful to society.

ETA: By the way, since you claim a higher degree of knowledge, why don't you share with the rest of us where Marxism has succeeded? What has happened to countries that tried Fascism? Do you think living in a spartan dorm room with a dozen of other worker slaves with little time for what we call "a life" is really preferable to what we enjoy here in the United States of America? Do tell. I await in breathless anticipation.

Also, tell me, how much do you get for your paid trolling gig? Is it by the post? If so, they might want to check into quality control.

My pointing out your ignorance does not require me to remedy that ignorance.  Since I am not a Marxist, I don't feel any need to defend or explain Marxism, only to point out that you are, in fact, a stupid piece of shit.

And for what it's worth, you only know me as a fellow troll from teh internets, so you have absolutely no idea about my usefulness to society or lack thereof. Shocker! You're talking out of your ass.

If anyone is talking out of their ass, it's you. How on earth do you know that I only have a "freshman's understanding of Marxism" when you openly admit that you're not a Marxist? (And by deductive reasoning, are not an expert.) You are hysterical! And very much a loser.

"Meanwhile a majority of Americans support the message, more support their right to protest." Wrong. Although Americans for the most part recognize there are problems in our society, most do NOT agree with the approach of OWS, according to a Gallup Poll taken in November. (31% disprove of how the protests are being conducted. 21% approved, and 49% don't know what to think. http://bit.ly/t7UjeV) More and more Americans are waking up to the truth -- which is: OWS is a front for Marxism. If you don't believe that, then you've not read Karl Marx nor The Communist Manifesto. The goal of OWS is to dismantle Capitalism. Period. Think of what that would mean. Do you really want a government to control every aspect of your life? Many of us don't. Marx said that Communism could be summed up in a single sentence: abolition of private property. So no one would be allowed to own a home. Which explains why OWS thinks it can squat on private property without consequence. Many OWS protesters are obviously "useful idiots" for the Marxists, but it's no surprise. Marxism forever attempts to foment class warfare by causing the "regular worker" to feel cheated and thus revolt against the "bourgeois." Want a real picture of what this looks like? Ever see a Chinese workplace dorm? (Where iPads are made..) There you go.

gallop polls answer to fox news. and people wonder why no polls are the same. they are fake through and through!

the communist part is a lie actually they want a democratically owned economic system. not everything is so black and white you child!

First, the United States of America is a Republic. We are not a Democracy. We are ruled by laws, not by the mob. There's a difference. Secondly, OWS wants to move toward Social Democracy or Democratic Socialism. From Che Guevera: "Democracy cannot consist solely of elections that are nearly always fictitious and managed by rich landowners and professional politicians." Sound familiar? This is the same complaint of the protesters. They don't want corporations to get bailed-out (which I agree with) and they want corporate money out of political campaigns. So what's the alternative to Capitalism? Marxism. But they'll try to sugar-coat it so they can deceive the public. And as far as the Communist part being a lie.. seriously? You're woefully ignorant of what's going on. Here's a list of supporters and sympathizers to OWS. Communist Party of the USA, Revolutionary Communist Party, Socialist Party USA, Marxist Student Union... http://bit.ly/sk6het Yes, Steven. Sometimes life really is black and white. For those who have their eyes wide open: Stand up and speak out!

The days when you could squawk "Communist" or "Che Guevara" (lol) and have everyone shit their pants ended when we hit a 9% unemployment rate (which everyone knows is really at about 15%.) 

On Christmas, my father, a life-long Republican, wondered pensively what Cuba was like.  I told him they had a lot of urban gardens and fantastic beaches. Minds are opening.

When things go really, really bad (and they will), I think you will have a lot of people -- people who, btw, are also 100% Americans --'standing up and speaking out', except they'll be standing up and speaking out for collective ownership of the means of production, participative democracy, and an alternate way of structuring our financial system.

Is this the Cuba you're talking about? Where $6 is the equivalent of two weeks pay for the average Cuban and the bloggers have to sneak into a hotel to use the Internet? Where freedom of speech is only afforded to those the government approves such as government employees, academics, and researchers? http://nyti.ms/u9ccjd Hell, yeah. Screw the proletariat! Only Internet privileges for the bourgeoisie! Your allegiance to such a failed ideology is breathtaking.

I would also like to add that it seems that traditional Marxist-Leninists seem very thin on the ground indeed at OWS, giving the lie to your implication that it's all a big ol' CPUSA conspiracy.

Wonder how long it took one of the consensus committee town hall round-table meetings to agree to allocate resources to procure a few dozen middle-finger candles?

The candles were a Christmas gift from me to the OWS movement. I took it to one of the meetings , a decision was reached within 1 minute when the idea was introduced. It was a fascinating experience to see how efficiently things worked, once a consensus was reached.  Props to all the participants, organizers and documentarians. I am extremely grateful that people took my idea and artwork seriously.

So wait a second, I'm being spoken down to because I'd rather spend Christmas in a warm house with family I love and rarely get a chance to see instead of spending it outside in the cold with a group of quasi-homeless people protesting an empty building? Atiq Zabinski, eat a dick.