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City Claims Occupy Wall Street Protesters Were Stockpiling Weapons, Fights Court Order To Reopen Park

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Hundreds of protesters have amassed on the perimeter of Zuccotti Park as they await a judge's decision on whether the city must reopen it to Occupy Wall Street. The men in reflective vests are private security guards reportedly hired by Brookfield, the park's owner. (Via Michael Moore)

Deputy Mayor Cas Holloway filed a motion on behalf of the city today opposing a court order requiring the NYPD to allow Occupy Wall Street demonstrators back into Zuccotti Park. In filing the motion, Holloway asserted that "people who have a known history of violent interaction with the police” have been gathering in the park, and “makeshift items” that he said could be used as weapons, "such as cardboard tubes with metal pipes inside, had been observed among the occupiers' possessions." He also noted that after the October 1st Brooklyn Bridge march, "knives, mace and hypodermic needles were observed discarded on the roadway."

"It was our understanding that the protesters may have had a significant number of items that could potentially be used as weapons," Halloway writes in the motion, adding that there had been little to no crime in Zuccotti Park before the occupation began, but since there had been "73 misdemeanor and felony complaints" and about 50 arrests. Although the initial order to vacate (see below) promised demonstrators they would be allowed in—though without tents and sleeping bags—Bloomberg is now refusing to comply with the court order, and the park remains closed. A growing throng of demonstrators have gathered around it.

Justice Michael Stallman is expected to issue his decision around 3 p.m. In the meantime, here is Brookfield's letter to Bloomberg, which was sent to the Mayor yesterday. The letter urges the city to intervene in the interest of "public safety" and cites media reports of "violence, outbursts of bigotry, and escalating sanitary conditions."

Brookfield Letter to the Mayor Re Zuccotti Park

Numerous politicians have issued statements on the matter. Manhattan Borough President (and presumptive mayoral candidate) Scott Stringer writes:

I am greatly troubled by reports of unnecessary force against protestors and members of the media, including the use of “chokeholds” and pepper spray. I am also troubled by reports of media being forcibly kept away at a distance from these events. American foreign correspondents routinely put themselves in harm’s way to do their jobs, in some of the most brutal dictatorships in the world. And their NYC colleagues deserve the freedom to make the same choice. Zuccotti Park is not Tiananmen Square. I call for a full explanation of police behavior in this evacuation.

Congressman Jerrold Nadler and State Senator Daniel Squadron, who represent Lower Manhattan, also issued a joint statement:

We have also been urging the City to have a zero tolerance policy on noise and sanitation violations, and to make the results of its enforcement public. But we must balance the core First Amendment rights of protesters and the other legitimate issues that have been raised.

The City’s actions to shut down OWS last night raise a number of serious civil liberties questions that must be answered. Moving forward, how will the City respect the protesters’ rights to speech and assembly? Why was press access limited, and why were some reporters’ credentials confiscated? How will reported incidents of excessive force used by the police be addressed?

“On the issue of Brookfield’s rules, we are very concerned that they were promulgated after the protesters arrived; the specific legal questions on this topic are being addressed where it is appropriate - in the courts. Whatever the courts rule, the City’s actions here must not be a backdoor means of ending the free exercise of protesters’ rights.

And Council Member Jumaane D. Williams and the Black, Latino and Asian Caucus are holding a press conference in Foley Square now. In addition to condemning last night's raid, Williams will call attention to the arrest of Council Member Ydanis Rodriguez (D-Manhattan), "who is still in custody due to overaggressive policing tactics which also led to the banning of the press from the park and the improper seizure of personal property, amongst other violations."

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(Brookfield's notice to Occupy Wall Street protesters, distributed throughout the encampment last night. Via @faryl)

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  • aorbaka
    Can't we keep things civilized without sinking to name calling. You're a so-so! No I'm not! You're a yo-yo! Geeez. The ows needs to move on to some new ideas and don't lose site of the cause. Greed nearly bankrupt us all and isn't really good and the wall street/Washington connections are way way too cozy!
  • nogard1951
    The Obama regime, along with the unions, nursed this OWS thing from the beginning and were probably responsible for it's creation. It was meant as the lefts answer to the true patriotism of the Tea Party, who actually want and expect a government that adheres to the constitution. The left  embraced them hoping that they would be  the start of a ground swell of support for the leftist democrats, but it has blown up in their faces. They have associated themselves with something the majority of Americans will never support. Now that the public is seeing the light and realizing that for the most part OWS is nothing but a group of anti American progressive/socialist/marxist/anarchists, the regime will close these gatherings down as quickly as possible and do their best to make you forget about them. Later as the election approaches, they will try to make you remember them as patriotic Americans fighting for the middle class. LOL!
  • Yeah,they said that about Portland too. Turned out to be bogus. I also seem to remember something about WMD in Iraq too.
  • potentially stockpiling things that could be used as weapons?

    who do they think they are a Branch Davidian search warrant?
  • According to the Daily Rash, Occupy Wall Street is using prostitutes in an effort to deter rapists. http://www.thedailyrash.com/oc...
  • JacksBack72
    Geez- I do hope that the Bloomberg Administration and the NYS Judicial System-
    see to it that protestors who are arrested, are kept in the jail/court/probationary system for the rest of their natural lives on the planet!
    Freedom is not 'free'. . . and Protesting should not be 'free' either!
  • ForMadison
    That's strange. I heard the police have sticks and guns, tasers, and chemical weapons. And they are worried about...cardboard tubes? If you are paranoid, outnumbered, and in the wrong, even an egg, or a shoe, looks like a weapon. If the Occupy protesters stripped themselves naked, the police would still be afraid of them.

    If sanitation is a problem, let them rent portapotties.
  • Guest
    Need to read the article.  It was lead pipes concealed in cardboard tubes. This is an extremely dangerous situation.
  • ForMadison
    Stella,

    I did read the article. It's metal tubes. And what they probably mean is tent stakes. That is one reason why I am mocking them.

    I want to live in the home of the brave again.

    C
  • LMFAO
  • The
    real reason they don't want to abandon Afghanistan is, because of the
    Exxon Mobile's pipeline pumping oil from Afghanistan. George Bush Jr.
    brags he went to Iraq for the oil, to show off to his affluent friends.
    So instead of half the national deficit,
    we have it double, they want to build permanent bases in Iraq and
    Afghanistan, so big oil, and the Republican's can get rich. So why do
    they want to make Afghanistan a permanent duty station so they can
    protect the interest's of big oil and the pipeline, before they started
    drilling and pumping oil out of Afghanistan, the country was considered
    the largest untapped oil resource in the world. They don't talk much
    about the pipeline now because the Billionaire's and corporations have
    silence everyone. I don't vote and support neither party. George Bush Jr
    and the Republican party wanted to control the oil infrastructure of
    Iraq, and Afghanistan to enrich themselves, Billions traded for the
    corporations, while America accumulated Trillions in national debt, not
    such a good trade off, but it was for 1% of the population. The people
    of Afghanistan live simple lives as farmers and ranchers, living off of
    mountain goats, and sheep's, and simple crops, too stupid to realize
    what they have an abundant source of natural resources that they do not
    benefit from, while Hamid Karzai hordes over 100 Billion in secret
    accounts for himself. The people of Afghanistan use horses and donkeys,
    and pick up trucks, as their main weapons, while military contractor's
    keep building new weapon system's for themselves and get richer, America
    goes down hill in debt. China owns 11% of the national debt, and Japan
    owns 10% and they are over 200% over GDP in national debt. So who owns
    most of the national debt Private Security Firms profiting off the
    national debt of the U.S.
  • BigBoa
    AH HAHaHa!!!

    What a buffoon.......

    But, ok. The mighty Boa will take you at your word. No WAY will the mighty Boa vote for George Bush next time there is an election........
  • William556
    Here's and idea: let's take these "protesters" from the park and put them in those bleeding heart liberal politician's neighborhoods. Let those upstanding human beings set up camp on their doorsteps and make a mess of the place like they had been doing. I'll bet it would only take days instead of weeks before those liberals screamed to have the protesters removed at any price, including the pepper spray, water hoses, etc.
  • BigBoa
    If THAT had been where they started, or say Capitol Hill and the Whitehouse, one MIGHT have assumed they were for real.......

    But this nonsense...well. The people have only themselves to blame.
  • "It was our understanding that the protesters may have had a significant number of items that could potentially be used as weapons," 
    For the record, my mom's purse has significant numbers of items that could be potentially used as weapons.

    If she were a super ninja!
  • jess2500
    I read in the Speak Your Mind: A current Events Forum at http://socialbugs.net that some people feel like this whole movement is going to bring a whole new meaning to the modern hippie. Yay cant wait for that
  • jess2500
    I read on Speak Your Mind: Acurrent Events Forum on http://socialbugs.net/  that some people that this whole movement is going to bring back modern day hippies to a whole new level
  • As Michael Moore has repeatedly expressed his complete and unyielding support to the “OCCUPY” idiots, it is only fair they get his addresses:
    Michael Moore 225 W. 83rd St. Unit 17L New York, NY 10024
    That’s his home — a condominium this man of the people, so critical of capitalism, spent $4.5 million on seven years ago. And please don’t worry that it’s wrong to use this address; it’s public record, obtained through New York State mortgage records and Federal Election Commission filings.
    Besides, Moore himself endorses the publication of this kind of information: In “Fahrenheit 9/11,” in fact, he projects on screen the private office number of a congressman whose views he opposes — and urges viewers to call it.
    His Michigan home address, also available online:

    MOORE MICHAEL & GLYNN KATHLEEN
    222 S EAST TORCH LAKE DR
    CENTRAL LAKE, MI 49615
  • thesporkgirl
    wow you sure showed him...
  • And as quick as they came, the 5 Koch shills posing as 50 rabid patriots are on to their next assignment......lol
  • nc
    They're probably working towards heading to BED because they have JOBS, you scab.
  • very likely to be true.. my bed time is in about 4 hours.. its only almost 6PM here
  • kaymad
    I got bored.
  • kaymad
    I've bookmarked gothamist because apparently you all live in an echo chamber. Poor things, having to listen to your own views and "witticisms" reflected back to each other.
  • I'm still at work...
  • You are just angry because we know what we are talking about, We can articulate our ideas better, and in the arena of ideas, liberals always lose. Just one conservative who can articulate his ideas would do enought to hold all you liberals at bay..
  • You do realize they'll be replacing you with a Koch Shill Turing Machine any day now and you'll have to find another way to pay for the paint you huff behind your trailer right....?

  • I'm sorry.. this may come as a shock to you.. I've never done drugs.. and huffing paint.. while not really a drug.. same thing in my book.  Lastly, my house is 3063sf..(not much of a yard though in vegas) thanks though..
  • Yaspar
    ABC World News reports that there were so many perverts hanging around the Fleabagger convention in Zuc. Park that the women were having to sleep in a special steel cage, guarded by women, to prevent being raped or molested.
    Lousy Fleabaggers.
  • Hmm? Sounds like the disease called liberalism. I mean if it feels good do it right?

    "liberalism is a mental disorder"
  • BigBoa
    Wait a minute..... What about re-distribution?

    What is yours is theirs, no?

    (No, the mighty Boa isn't condoning rape. Just showing the utter hypocrisy).......
  • I'm curious how many of the fast and furious weapons have ended up in the hands of the occupiers? I never bought the fact they all went south of the border, and I am sure the present administration is behind this mayhem....
  • BigBoa
    WHY has the mighty Boa started responding........

    The mighty Boa WARNED you that O'Bozo needs to be removed immediately. The mighty Boa also warned you that only God knows what else he will pull between now and next year.

    Then he also warned you why the occupiers need to be confronted by the people and disbanded. Many claiming to be "conservative" called such testimony "shameful"......

    Well here's to hoping those same pu$$ies now enjoy rampant disease coming to a neighborhood near them and here's to hoping their relatives contract it. AND the violence they'll also be bringing with them.....

    And by the way, enjoy the dictatorship.

    You were told that this imparting of wisdom would come to and end and the time has come. Reap what you have sown. So it is said, so it is written.
  • dapicayune
    Suck on this, Bolsheviks - your illegal party’s over, turn out the lights and head back to mom‘s basement, the Judge just said “No Mo,…. Ya Gotta GO!” Better hope she hasen’t changed the locks, but maybe you can now protest in front of her house. Oh, and take that traitorous Nat. Scumbag Guild that helped the '93 WTC Islamic terrorists,... with you!
     
    But thanks for all the laughs, too bad your falling poll #s were hurting O’Dictator and his D mob seeking reelection! How does it feel to be a “Useful Idiot” of Oh-Bam-Ma??? All Bad things come to an end - and rightly so! Live and learn, then do it the old fashioned way like the rest of us - earn it, or Occupy a jail cell or a cheap cargo ship to the third world!

    “On the road again…”
  • Shoot to Kill!!! Shoot to Kill!!!! Kent State anyone? He! He!

    Dog Dam leftist scum!
  • Get_Over_Yourselves
    "...there had been little to no crime in Zuccotti Park before the occupation
    began, but since there had been "73 misdemeanor and felony complaints""

    Right, and the Tea Partiers were the dangerous, violent ones. (rolling eyes)
  • five_star_chick
    One of the problems with being a radical hippie type is your "weapons" are cardboard shipping tubes.  Conservatives stockpile GUNS.  Good luck, hippies.

    Try occupying a job.
  • Amen to that!!  My current problem is do I get a Ruger 556 or a PS90?!
  • BigBoa
    Huh?
  • Guns.. a Ruger 556 is an assault rifle while a PS90 is a personal defense weapon.  Ruger fires a 5.56 round (.223 Rem) while PS90 fires a 5.7 round.  Tipical mag for Ruger is 30 round capacity, traditional loading style, while PS90 is top loaded, and mags go to 50 each.  I could keep going.. if you wish..
  • BigBoa
    Guns?

    You don't say?......

    No, the mighty Boa meant why such overkill (no pun intended) in both firepower and cost? If the guy just wants to shoot intruders, 12 gauge buckshot is a lot cheaper and will more than do the job.

    Now, if he is going hunting during local chimp-outs, sure that would be a different matter. People need to stop thinking they're playing video games when shooting around neighborhoods......
  • Gets you hard does it?
  • The house?  Yeah.. proud of it..

    wait.. got confused.. lol.. the guns.. yes!! Love guns.. who doesn't?
  • which jobs would those be mbitsko?  The ones the Republicans shipped off to India?  You people are too funny.  "Get A Job" you chant - yet there aren't any jobs to get - catch22?  Nah...just Conservative ignorance.  Cheer Death, Boo Soldiers - and you wonder why you guys poll in the 20-30%.
  • Furthermore, it is common knowledge that the military is full of conservatives.  As a matter of fact, Dems constantly try to not count military votes from over-seas on close elections because they know that over 80% will vote towards the conservative guy.  You might fool yourself, but I'm as 2nd generation Marine, and I know how the military feels.. we just don't voice in uniform.  Those that are liberals in the military.. well, look at that one guy that was from the Marine Corps... you tell me.. does he look like a Marine?  I'm willing to bet there is a reason he is out.
  • BigBoa
    Something way too convenient about all that too.

    They flaunt it as if the cops saw him and KNEW he was a marine and targeted him.

    And isn't it RICH to see the thug bums whine about injuries to military people?

    AH HAHAHA!!!

    As if they haven't dreamed of doing it for most of THEIR lives.......
  • Republicans shipped to India? You are dumber than dirt.....
  • That is a lie.. I have a job.. and I know of plenty of other places offering to hire.  The problem is that these crazies think they are worth 100k right off the bat.  I personally don't think they are worth minimum wage.  Jobs went over seas because of taxes.. and we both know higher taxes is a Dem platform.  I could explain basic economics to you.. but I think its over your head.
  • Jobs did not go overseas because of taxes, they went overseas because most wanted an open market place free of tariffs that prohibited cheaply made foreign goods from competing with domestic goods and services.  In exchange for removing tariffs on these foreign goods and services, laws were relaxed that allowed outsourcing of jobs that kept American products and services competitive.  The average American who makes over $250,000 pays almost 2/3 less in taxes than they did at the end of Reagan's second term.  Learn the history of economics in this country...
  • BigBoa
    How much of it is due to union involvement?

    Companies can't fire non-performers and don't try to claim it isn't true. When the union protects them, there is little a company can do. And when you have people that have barely made it through high school, if THAT, making 40 and 50 bucks an HOUR, for menial labor jobs, you can't seriously think business is going to tolerate it.

    They would make pretty poor business people if they DIDN'T try to reduce such costs........
  • so .. they paid 2/3 less in taxes.. so like I said.. taxes.  Taxes are not limited to the general terms either.. the government has started to "fee" businesses to death also.. then count the unions .. and you figure it out.  Business owners did not start businesses to make you rich..they started it to make them rich.. you working for them is just a byproduct.  Now to keep good employees.. they compete with other businesses for pay and benefits.  If you want the money those business owners are making.. then you take the risk, put your capital on the line, put together a business plan ect.. then figure out your burn rate and pay the taxes not only on your income, but the company's, all your employees, and dont be late on keeping up with your business license.  I'm sick of your kind crying about businesses being greedy when you have no clue how it works.  How about you learn how to run a business then come back and talk to me.
  • I said they pay 2/3 less now, not then, learn to read.  The tax rate for people in the top income bracket was as high as 70% percent when Reagan left office.  I never said a business exist to make me rich.  I know full well how a business runs, since I've worked for myself for years, I know what my costs are.  Sick of my kind, stop confusing me with the bleeding hearts you keep making stock response up for.  I'm not a protester...  Your explanation for exporting jobs was a simplistic, non informative stock response.
  • I don't have stock responses.. its all from the heart.. no notes, or talking points, just pure ideas.  As far as taxes now.. still too high.. I see the current set up of taxes as a punishment to those that do well.  Lastly.. tariffs is just another name for taxes..(from your original post).
  • Yeah and the point was, that they were removed, not raised.   In exchange, American corporations were allowed to export labor to keep their own services and goods competitive with the flood of cheap foreign goods and services.  This was done by removing tax penalties on American corporations that used foreign labor, not raising their business taxes.
  • While a very valid argument.. keep in mind that cost of labor is a tax.  Businesses want to keep overhead low.. and between the current tax code, and the unions.. most large business would rather move. So, in short.. they wanted less tariffs or free of it altogether, and bring cost down on labor (the lion share of cost).. so.. less taxes.. ?
  • I think I figured it out......the OWS crowd is trying to tell us that their collective IQ is 99.......unfortunately they missed a decimal point.....it should read zero point 99 for their collective IQ..............
  • BigBoa
    No, no, no......it's all there...

    O'Bozo IS the zero, Plugs is the dot. Then you have the 99.......
  • thesporkgirl
    you've been trying to figure out the "99" part this whole time, but they're the dumb ones?
  • You might be giving them too much credit.....
  • WhyMeLord
    "people who have a known history of violent interaction with the police” have been gathering in the park, and “makeshift items” that he said could be used as weapons,

    I grew up in the deep south.  What this represents is echoes of the protest and establishment justification of the 60's.

    The more the establishment pushes these falsehoods the more the movement, it's impact and it's size grows.
  • please don't confuse this with the civil rights movement or the vietnam war protests......these are mindless, degenerate malcontents who wouldn't work if you went down there and offered them a job at $25 / hour where they would have to really work.........
  • WhyMeLord
    "... these are mindless, degenerate malcontents who wouldn't work if you went down there and offered them a job"

     
    You realize you just did a very accurate job of paraphrasing a can speech by David Duke referring to the same folk  i.e. the civil rights movement or the Vietnam war protests.

     
    Best to pay attention to the OWS and avoid trying to mis-charterized them or their motivation.
  • BigBoa
    SO WHAT if it is "canned"? It's correct......

    Stop with the f-in buzzwords.....

    What NEXT? Are you going to tell us the occupiers strive to be "best in class"??

    AH HAHAHA!!

    THAT was SWEEEEET!
  • Guest
    Obama et al., are trying to destroy this country.

    The riots are starting.

    Soon, people will be calling out for Sharia Law.
    Anything to save us.
  • Many will rue the day it starts. Not all of us are cowering in our homes......
  • BigBoa
    The mighty Boa prays DAILY for the cleansing and restoration of the Republic to begin. But it is wrong to just wait on this.

    Both the Occupiers and the muslim infiltrator need to be gone, but the people, they don't care. They are too apathetic, too complacent. If they can't take on the thug bums, how will they ever take on a rogue government?
  • Anarchists using the court system..an Oxymoron
  • creekwalker
    It's time to put an end to these protests. The 99.99% of us out here going to our jobs, living our lives like normal people in the real world could care less about what these socialists and liberals want.
  • Man it sure smells like rancid Koch cheese in here now! Thanks drudge!
  • kaymad
    Put your arms down. Or take a shower. It should solve that aroma problem.
  • Mary,

    It's time for your mommy to turn off the computer and tuck you in.  You are waaaaaay past your bedtime!
  • You Koch shills are into age play too? Why am I not surprised....?

    Too kinky for me Louise....take it back to your geriatric puppet masters.....
  • barracuda43
    Get a job A- hole!
  • Mary,

    You can't have an IQ above zero that is why you are protesting.  You are unemployable, have no ability to function in society and therefore blame everyone for your future which will be a life long failure.  Look in the mirror and you'll see what the world already knows!!!
  • So will the Zucotti park owners pay for the clean up? After-all, they permitted this!!
  • BigBoa
    Perhaps they could use some of the money O'Bozo provided them......

    You ARE aware that they got a sweet bundle of cash from the Feds after allowing this?
  • Guest
    Thank you Obama for this mess.
  • In Los Angeles we are calling these idiots OccuPOOers, the stinch, filth and mess is as some say is worse it's ever been in history! They are crapping the outhouses  right up to the seats!

    Obama the Messaiah and great uniter ......His zombie drone worshipers are on full display for the world to see! This is the result of about 2 generations that grew up with everything given to them, now they want it for free and they want it right now.
  • BigBoa
    The last syllable is too soft........doesn't flow right.

    Occu-poopers sounds somewhat more fluent.........
  • BigBoa
    Picture, if you will, Al Sharpton leading about 50 of these kooks.....chanting through, of course, his bullhorn, and the crowd responding. All as they march in a big circle, repeating and repeating....

    "WHAT do we WANT?"

    "MORE for NOTHING!!"

    "WHEN do we WANT it?"

    "NOW!"
  • Oh man.. sorry to hear that.  California is a beautiful state.. I would move there to live but for the taxes and liberal population.. how do you do it?
  • I only have one thing to say to The_Green_Devil.............YOU ARE A LOSER!!!!!
  • This needed to be reposted....please pass it around to all of your friends which have the OWS cockroaches in their city / town.............If any of you patriotic posters live in cities which has an OWS commune, you should start getting a group of taxpayers together and sue them for wasting your taxpayer resources.  Include the SEIU, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, the DNC, the ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, the Commie Party of America and then start taking names out of newspapers and suing them individually.  Each of you should get a smart lawyer who files individual suits in different courts for each group person.  For example, sue SEIU in Court A and have another lawyer sue them in Court B then another in Court C.   Keep doing it to create a massive legal bill for all involved.
  • kaymad
    We had protestors here. That's perfectly fine because they went home for the night. They were incoherent like many of the protestors, but everyone has the right to be stupid. It's when they inconvenience others and break laws that it is a problem.
  • i agree.  they are absorbing huge amounts of resources which they need to pay for due to their continuous use 24/7..........
  • Guest
    Please keep reposting.
  • BigBoa
    The mighty Boa WARNED you that O'Bozo needs to be removed immediately. The mighty Boa also warned you that only God knows what else he will pull between now and next year.

    Then he also warned you why the occupiers need to be confronted by the people and disbanded. Many claiming to be "conservative" called such testimony "shameful"......

    Well here's to hoping those same pu$$ies now enjoy rampant disease coming to a neighborhood near them and here's to hoping their relatives contract it. AND the violence they will also be bringing.....

    And by the way, enjoy the dictatorship.

    You were told that this imparting of wisdom would come to and end and the time has come. Reap what you have sown. So it is said, so it is written.
  • Guest
    Carter is smiling.

    He is no longer the worst president.
  • Brian Rattner
    Hats off to the property owner, Bloomberg and the NY City Police Department for finally doing the right thing and cleaning out the park.
  • Moron
  • Guest
    If Obama is re-elected in 2012, then all is lost.

    We cannot afford any more debt.  He is trying to sink us.
  • We've already tipped, and this will be an ugly and painful remedy for many.....
  • barracuda43
    Titanic is rolling into dangerous waters and Captain Obama is hell bent on suicide.
  • Guest
    We should only allow people who pay taxes to vote.

    You have the entitlement group demanding more and more free stuff.  That is what destroyed Greece.  It is coming here.
  • BigBoa
    While the mighty Boa has always been against tax increases, the thug bums have swayed his mind.

    We must IMMEDIATELY increases taxes! YES! It is time people "pay their fair share"!! From now on, NO MORE 0 federal income tax. Those now paying zero must IMMEDIATELY begin paying at LEAST 15 percent, retroactive to last year! And NO MORE of the "earned income credit" and "head of household" garbage that entitles people paying maybe a thousand a year in fed taxes, or even less, to get refunds of 10,000....... NO MORE!

    PAY YOUR fair share you f-in thug bums!!
  • 48% pay NO taxes? Its not coming, its already here.....
  • you know.. I've thought about that for a while.. and I'm sure I agree.. all voters should have skin in the game (paying taxes).
  • dapicayune
    Read history - our Founding Fathers required you to own property to be able to vote, you hand to be enfranchised!  Pretty smart dudes, eh? 

    The USA is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy, as the magic finger Mikers in Zuccotti Park just learned! How sweet it is!
  • Oh I'm with you.. and glad to know that you know we are to be a Republic, not a Democracy (known as mob rule).  Yeah.. those guys are smart.. lets hope we are smart enough as a nation to keep the Republic they gave us.
  • It's enlightening to actually see the faces of Obama's base.  
    I always wondered who would vote for him, now I can look at the dirty faces of the "occupiers" and see them.
    Not exactly a perfect system when one of their votes counts the same as yours.
    Obama reelected in 2012 -- now there's something far worse to worry about than a bunch of dirty anarchists trying to score in a park.
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