This hostile type of racist symbolism is on the upswing throughout the Greater NYC Area.

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Israel as a nation is a racist symbol supported internationally by a majority of jews who think they're above the law of cause and affect.  Three Palestinian cars were torched and a Palestinian house on the West Bank was defaced last week.  Ironic, isn't it?

You are so far removed from reality. It is time to clear the cobwebs out of your brain.

My gut feeling it was self-hating Jewish kids or their own people did this to themselves.

Well, how would you feel if you had to walk around wearing a top hat, coat, and a suit every day for the rest of your lives, no matter what the weather! And you're never allowed to shave! ever!

OWS. is not about love. far from it.

This article has nothing to do with Occupy Wall Street.

The only young dumb non-Jewish vandal types likely to know the anniversary of Kristallnacht are 24/7 aryan nut types in Idaho. Either the date is a total coincidence or this was staged. Were there any Shomrim suspiciously quick on the scene and still smelling like petrol?

Jeremiah, you must be crazy. Do you know or understand the history of white supremacism in New York State, let alone the massive white supremacist movement in New York City in the 1980s until the response by S.H.A.R.P. [Skinhead Against Racial Prejudice] sent many of those in the WP movement underground for fear of physical retaliation by anti-racists? The Village Voice once published an article on the violence between S.H.A.R.P. and the various WP sects in the early 1990s. Did you know that "gay-bashing" entered the national consciousness because of WP skinheads attacking homosexuals in Greenwich Village in the late 1980s? As the "grunge" scene took hold, and S.H.A.R.P. receded into obscurity, the WP kids continued on. Believe me, I was a part of the NYC oi!/punk scene in the late 1980s/early 1990s onto 9/11. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH WP THERE IS IN NY. And, the irony about gentrification is that as it claims sites, it attracts bridge-and-tunnel as well as New Jerseyians who are not all there "for the galleries." Indeed, the WP movement in NYC was fed by groups outside of locations of gentrification that then staged within gentrification. Williamsburg has been largely immune, but mostly because "punk" has never taken hold there as the theme music of the gentrification like the way it did in the Lower East Side and E. Village [that bled onto Greenwich Village]. And, it was very well known in the NYC punk/oi! scene that far South Brooklyn is very much like the Far South when it comes to racial sentiments. So please.

So you are a reformed nazi skin or were an anti-racist skin still carrying on the good fight? Interesting post but I think you dramatically overstate the size of the racist skin scene in NYC in  the 80s. It was all "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" and RAR to my memory back then, but then I moved on to other things by the time you were active I guess. 95% righteous hardcore and only a smattering of skins of any political persuasion. Maybe our circles were different or maybe time has made my memory more rosy, dunno...

I don't doubt that there are both genuine WP morons in NYC and plenty of bored kids who might just do something like this for no reason at all, BUT as a long time student of reality and real politics I see far more deliberate fomenting of paranoia by nuts like the ADL than I do actual local anti-Jewish hate. The vast vast majority of this type of vandalism in our area is done by kids who don't have any political/racist agenda whatsoever. Therefore my money remains on either the date being a coincidence or the vandalism being staged. I certainly may be wrong, but will say that if you seriously do not consider the possibility that something like this is staged for effect then YOU must be "crazy" (or at least not very experienced in the real world).

Shalom.

Oh, I don't doubt the possibility this was staged, but I still disagree with you on the sheer size of the WP movement in the punk/hardcore/oi! scene. You remember it as "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" and RAR, but I remember it as NYHC [New York Hardcore, with the hardcore bands coming mostly from Queens and Brooklyn, unlike earlier New York hardcore {with a lower case h} that was much more like Bad Brains [after their D.C. exile], Kraut and Nihilistics.] 

NYHC, in its early years, was a fount of right-wing extremism--much more "boots and braces" than the rest of American hardcore, ironically enough. Even Maximum Rock'n'Roll took its time lambasting the NY scene for its right wing extremism, not understanding how much of this was a post-80s culture. ALL of the early NYHC bands were WP or pretended to be, or, when exposed by media, claimed to be "just patriotic." Do you remember Agnostic Front with Pete Steele of Type O Negative, a la "Public Assistance"? Or YDL, Youth Defense League [sound familiar]? Did you know that Biohazard's very first demo cassette tape release was filled with WP? [notwithstanding the fact of Evan's Judaism--which is related to your point about "anti-semitic staging" by Jews]. Later on, as the old guard of NYHC was becoming synthesized with "alternative," the underlying right-wing extremism was taken up by the burgeoning oi! scene [never to be as influential as NYHC]. Do you know that the NY oi! scene's culture is very much one of a public mask of "non-political" or "apolitical" while fetishizing infamous WP group Skrewdriver? Every one of the NY oi! bands satiated and excused and rationalized themselves by covering Skrewdriver "back when Skrewdriver wasn't racist" [ha!], so as to avoid exposure by what they saw as a "liberal media." And don't get me started with R.A.C., which continues to enjoy a long life beyond its European roots in New York. And the incredible irony of all this is that this is all ENTIRELY a creature of gentrification--since NYHC and New York hardcore in general sprang out of Avenue A back when it was still within Loisaida [the Puerto Rican name for the Lower East Side].

I'm neither a former nazi skin or anti-racist skin. I wasn't even a punk--I was an Infiltrator. Don't measure the culture of the extent of influence of punk/oi!/hardcore by your anecdotal experiences--everyone seems to think punk was born when they came into the scene and died when they left, and restricts taking in the whole thing holistically, as a historical movement and as a creature of gentrification. As such, the significance of punk/hardcore/oi! is wholly inflated when one was a punk, then suddenly, having nothing to do with ego at all [ahem], the significance of punk/hardcore/oi! is wholly deflated when one leaves punk. 

Think WP is an insignificant force in punk? Consider the record label Resistance Records, popular to many NY skinheads--federal investigations after its establishment in 1993 confirmed that, even without Soundscan or barcoding but strictly through mail-order, Resistance Records was moving more than a million units [tapes, LPs, CDs] every month.  

So please. These forces are as significant and less elaborate than "apparently anti-semitic Jews who are actually philo-semitic Jews burning down cars and vandalizing things to incite non-Semites towards a favorable Semitic position."

Oh, I forgot to mention this, because this is important: we're not just talking about the past, and we're not just talking about Manhattan. Just last summer, in the venue Public Assembly [right around the corner from me], a cavalcade of far-right wing and racist anti-semitic bands played--likely by fooling the booking agent[s] as to what their performances were really like [usually by submitting material for review that is not explicitly racist]. Either Condemned84 or Combat84 was slated to play there! [Both bands are known for their far-right wing and racist lyrics, but Combat84 more so]. So while I've got people telling me that the WP movement is "dramatically overstated," I got to enjoy the crowds of malignant malevolent bald-headed muthufuckas walking around my neighborhood, en masse--because of gentrification!

So, in sum, the idea that only yahoos in Idaho know the anniversary of Kristallnacht is pure yahoo-ism.

Excuse me, I mentioned R.A.C. without defining them. Rock Against Communism. So while you listened to Rock Against Racism, there was as large a following, if not larger, connecting NY to an international scene, called Rock Against Communism. For easy reference, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

And another thing--everyone who went to the "shows" didn't all wear boots and braces. Don't measure the extent or influence of the New York WP movement just by skinheads. They are only the most apparent symptom of that movement.

Very interesting. Thanks!

But as I said, I had moved on to other things after the golden age of NYC hardcore on the LES. Never even heard of "Rock Against Communism" for example.

Perhaps as an "infiltrator" obviously focused on this issue your perspective is a bit less than objective though? I am not doubting that there are and have been a variety of WP groups active locally who might actually be concerned with symbolically significant dates, I'm just saying that for every schmuck in that category there are 10 dimwitted goy kids who might do this but who couldn't tell Hitler from Himmler, ten more troubled Jewish kids ready to piss off their neighbors, and an undetermined but significant number of very smart, paranoid, and nasty people with very specific political agendas who would stage something like this and who are so wrapped up in their own worlds they think the public would buy this "anniversary" explanation.

Right now I'm still handicapping it as approximately equal chance of being apolitical/drunken/date-unaware kids or Midwood version of Tawana Brawley. The fact that it comes so shortly after the recent public outcries about the Hasidic bus/signs and a week after the ludicrous ADL report increase the odds of it being a 'false flag' arson. I'd put the chances of it being WP fools as well below the other two possibilities, but hope you keep up the good work.

Now please all together now:

"NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!! FUCK OFF!!"

;-)

Outside of the fact that I despise racism, this is more history for me than anything else. Again, I don't doubt the possibility of staging, but I don't think we should underestimate the amount and type of extreme racism that exists right here in NYC. Everywhere I go people scoff at the idea that "skinheads" even continue to exist--I think that's dangerous.

But, outside of our minor differences, I join in the chorus: 

NAZI PUNKS OFF.

What about Illinois Nazis?  I hate Illinois Nazis.

Apparently you live in a world where people don't have access to Google and Wikipedia, don't read, and have never seen a a high school history book. Must be a strange place to exist.

That's exactly where 99% of the local goy yahoos likely to do something like this live. They don't even know when WWII occurred. It definitely could be what it appears to be - but if it is then I'll bet dollars to donuts (or rugelach) that the date is a coincidence. Just smells a bit funny......