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R. Crumb's Rejected Same-Sex Marriage New Yorker Cover Revealed

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Last year illustrator R. Crumb announced he would no longer be selling work to The New Yorker after the magazine rejected one of his covers without explanation. But no one knew what the cover depicted, until arts reporter Nadja Sayej discovered the cover on a bookmark she received at the Venice Biennale. It seems the magazine's cover editor suggested Crumb draw something on the topic of gay marriage in June 2009. Crumb did, but it was ultimately rejected—his first rejection from The New Yorker. Here's his explanation—transcribed from the back of the bookmark—for why he severed ties with the magazine:

The cover editor explained to me that the chief editor, David Remnick, went back and forth, first accepting my cover design, then rejecting it, then accepting it, then rejecting it. This went on for many months. I heard nothing for a long time. Finally, the artwork was returned to me without explanation, nor was an explanation ever forthcoming. Remnick would not give the reason for rejecting the cover, either to the cover editor, or to me. For this reason I refuse to do any more work for the New Yorker.

I felt insulted, not so much by the rejection as for the lack of any reason given. I can’t work for a publication that won’t give you any guidelines or criterion for accepting or rejecting a work submitted. Does the editor want to keep you guessing or what? I think part of the problem is the enormous power vested in the position of chief editor of the New Yorker. He has been ‘spoiled’ by the power that he wields. So many artists are so eager to do covers for the New Yorker that they are devalued in the eyes of David Remnick. They are mere pawns. He is not compelled to take pains to show them any respect. Any artist is easily replaced by another. Fortunately for me, I do not feel that I need the New Yorker badly enough to put up with such brusque treatment at the hands of its editor-in-chief. The heck with him!

Sayej then interviewed Crumb for Vice, and it's a fun read—the chat culminates with her promising to send Crumb provocative photos of herself, which he is very interested in because she says she has big breasts. But don't let those distract you! Let's stay on topic; here's Crumb's disgruntled take on The New Yorker's editorial process:

Even after my stuff became popular, I continued to work completely uncensored. Then the New Yorker called, and when the New Yorker calls it’s a big thrill. It’s big-time: 2 million circulation, blah blah blah, and they pay really well. I expect certain limitations from the New Yorker; I can’t show explicit sex, foul language, or at least not too foul language. You expect these things in a mainstream publication—I can live with that.

The New Yorker has a usual policy of having artists send in rough drafts of what you want to do, and the editor can then suggest changes, and I told them right from the start: “I don’t do that, I can’t work that way. I will send you finished pieces, and you can take it or leave it, accept it as is or reject it.” They replied that they were OK with that. This was the first time they rejected something of mine. I could live with it if they gave me a reason. If not, I’m second-guessing the editor, and… Well, you know, I just don’t need the work bad enough to have to worry about what makes David Remnick like or dislike something.

Must be nice to get out from under Remnick's thumb! Here in NYC, the sun rises and sets according to the whims of The New Yorker's editor, and thus we reached out to the venerable magazine for comment about why he rejected the cover. We'll update if we hear back (yeah, right), but in the meantime you can read the whole interview here. [Via ComicsBeat]

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  • I'm slightly confused by this. Crumb says that he doesn't want his work critiqued--either accepted or rejected. So by bypassing the critique stage, when it was simply rejected he suddenly wants an explanation? I'm sorry but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either accept that your work will be critiqued and asked to be edited or accept the rejection and move on with your life. 

    P.S. Nice reporting Gothamist!
  • Frank_LeSerious
    Maybe they rejected the cover because it's a hackneyed concept with a vaguely derogatory execution? I like Crumb, but this cover is weak at best.
  • JacksBack72
    I think this 'Crumb' cover is an hysterically funny comment on the implosion of America's (heretofore) civil society!
    So how about this: Men and Women can enter into a 'Legal Marriage';
    and Same-Gender Couples can enter into a legal 'Civil Union'.


    Yes- It's an undisputable fact of life, that these two entities ARE different from each other!
  • MattyGC
    You are abusing the bold text privilege.
  • whitecastlerock
    Another reason to hate Conde Nasty...
  • Disgusting cover.  It was properly rejected, and Crumb is a moron if he needed "feedback" as to why it was turned down.  Of course, Crumb can always sell his work to the Family Research Council or some related hate group.  Seems like his raw, transgressive view of gays is indistinguishable from that of a drooling anti-gay bigot.

    BTW, gay people, this is what happens when you tell the world that you are something called "LGBT" and that you have some sort of definitional link with transsexuals and crossdressers.  Idiots like Crumb will take this idea and run with it and the results are  ugly.  Gay men are men.  Lesbians are women.  Period.  Full stop.  Being gay does not mean that you are at war with gender, even if fools like Crumb think that it is hip to say so.
  • Of course a f2m marrying a m2f would be been totally legal before gay marriage. Same deal with either marrying within their birth gender so long as they were in the process of transitioning. A strange loop hole.
  • Colonel_Ingus
    Wahuh?  Wait, so you're pro-gay, pro-lesbian, but anti-transexual?


    What I thought was the single most important part of this drawing was the "Gender Inspection" sign.  I considered the whole thing to be a comment along the lines of "Who gives a fuck what you are"... I mean, outside of being required to produce a birth certificate when getting a marriage license, how is any one to actually -know- what gender you are.
  • I am not anti-transsexual.  My point is that being gay and being transsexual are 2 different things and that we promote stereotypes that injure both groups when we lump them together for political or ideological reasons.  Gay men used to combat the stereotype that they are cross-dressers who wish they were women.  Today, via the concept of LGBT, they promote that stereotype.  It is also offensive to tell a trans man or trans woman that he or she is somehow really not the genuine article but instead a kind of gay in denial. 

    LGBT is a mistake and it should end.
  • SFNY
    The two main reasons LGBTAs are (and should continue to be) grouped together are: 

    1) transsexual people can have any gender identity or sexual orientation: gay, lesbian, bi, hetero, etc.

    2) a shared experience and similar hurdles when it comes to civil rights, discrimination, employment law, healthcare and tax benefits, marriage restrictions, DOMA, Prop 8, etc.

    Now that gay marriage laws are starting to pass, and the trans folks have been largely left out of the equation, your message sounds like "I've got mine, screw the rest of y'all."
  • Japan Communication
    And there's the reason why transgender people dislike the existing mainstream gay/lesbian organizations. Despite co-opting their identity and history (which was instrumental in starting the gay rights movement) for the gay movement's name, and presumably for their support and money, non-transgender gay & lesbian people still really look down on the people they consider "non-men" or "non-women" as second-class citizens.  So they're ready to sell them, and their rights, out at a moment's notice if it threatens the non-transgender gays' aspirations to mainstream status and success even a little bit.  They will throw trans-folk under the bus at a moment's notice for making them look bad rather than fighting for them too.

    But, having said all that, I still hate that cover and think Crumb is just being his usual overly sensitive and overly important dick-y self over the same rejections that all other artists and writers get.
  • SFNY
    Yes, exactly.
  • AGWAGW
    +1. Crumb is trying to show how hard gender is to pin down and in the end, it should be irrelevant.
  • That would have made a fine New Yorker cover. And I think David Remnick owes R. Crumb an explanation.
    BTW - well-written piece, and nice job on the interview.
  • just more new yawk nonsense. joe mustich, ct usa
  • avenuehebrew
    Thank you for signing your internet blog comment. That is very polite of you.
  • How about "this is a terrible cover, R.Crumb?"
  • Since when does the New Yorker reject terrible covers?
  • SFNY
    The words "lazy" and "hackneyed" come to mind...
  • I'm not a big Crumb fan-- he's a guy who can see ugly in everyone, hooray!-- but this seems particularly trite. Oh I see, masculine & feminine all mixed up, oh man, what a mindfreak!
  • SFNY
    Yeah. The final fail is that a drag king and drag queen's marriage, or that of an f2m to an m2f, is already legal in all 50 states.
  • I thought the same thing, but then I looked at it again. I think that's Crumb's point. That this marriage is perfectly legal, so what's the point in making others illegal? The kicker is the gender inspection sign, an inspection this couple would pass, despite the shock they've given to the clerk.
  • That guy in the dress has great legs.
  • 1429523
    I like his cartoons, he sounds like a schmuck.
  • At some point, in your field, you have been doing it long enough that you expect respect and creative control. According to your logic, every major film director is also a schmuck.
  • edgie168
    Does he also want to get a piggyback ride on her?
  • Rocknrope
    ...the chat culminates with her promising to send Crumb provocative photos
    of herself, which he is very interested in because she says she has big
    breasts.


    Man, is that the truth:

    http://torontoist.com/attachme...


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