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Photos: Visiting The Secret Train Platform Beneath The Waldorf-Astoria

Over the weekend we had a chance to visit the long-abandoned Waldorf-Astoria train platform, which allowed VIPs to enter the hotel in a more private manner—most famously it was used by Franklin D. Roosevelt, possibly to hide the fact that he was in a wheelchair suffering from polio. The mysterious track, known as Track 61, still houses the train car and private elevator, which were both large enough for FDR's armor-plated Pierce Arrow car. Legend has it that the car would drive off the train, onto the platform and straight into the elevator, which would lead to the hotel's garage. Trainjotting has some more history regarding the platform, known as Track 61, and notes that the quest for it "has become a holy grail for many urban explorers."

Some fun facts regarding the timeline of the tracks: It was first used by General Pershing in 1938, and less than 30 years after that, in 1965, it was the venue for a party thrown by Andy Warhol (fittingly called The Underground Party).

Click through for a look yourself. This space will likely never be open to the public... unless you're a squatter—"by 1978, the platform was known as one of the many places in Grand Central Terminal where squatters lived." However, current construction on the new LIRR extension has probably taken care of that (though despite the construction, MTA spokesperson Dan Brucker tells us the train car will remain).

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  • michaelpilot

    Obama had it moved to China in hopes of getting another loan to prop up the U.S.

  • Trainguy

    As some previous posts have said, this car was most recently used with the Metro North double ended crane which now resides at the Danbury Railway Museum.  If you look at the Matt Lauer piece he did several years ago, it shows the inside and crane rigging is evident.  Why Dan Brucker of Metro North continues to fabricate a story about the car is anybody's guess.  Our tax dollars at work paying this joker.  In the Lauer piece, they comment on the car being armor plated with heavy duty trucks and olive green paint.  Just about all cars in the WWII had the same thing as they were known as "heavyweights."

  • doesn't really seem like a car within that train car would be able to get out. Seems awful narrow and a mighty tight turn for a large fancy presidential car. 

  • You are right this story is B.S. that car was used fir train workers on a wreck train.

  • edgie186

    Always wanted to get down there

  • That's where those kids should've hidden from the monster in Cloverfield.

  • remyngtin

    very cool

  • NatGeo has a show called "Secret Service Files" that discusses many aspects of the many roles the USSS plays in our government.  Some episodes are about currency and counterfeiting, others are on their role protecting POTUS, other senior members of our government, and foreign dignitaries visiting US soil.  A recent episode I watched was about a UN General Assembly meeting in NYC.  This is essentially the busiest event of the year for USSS because not only is it an event POTUS attends in downtown Manhattan, but every foreign dignitary that qualifies for USSS protection is in one place at one time.  Obviously the episode was primarily focused on the massive logistical effort it takes to coordinate so many moving pieces.  They discussed that the Waldorf is the most locked down venue besides the UN building because POTUS and about a dozen of the highest level protectees stay there.  The show discussed and showed video from down on platform 61 and discussed the "very persistent rumors" that the area is still equipped to evacuate POTUS in an emergency and that a train car is kept down there when he is in town.  They made it very clear that these "unsubstantiated rumors" were most likely true.  Check it out for some great footage of platform 61 and an all around wildly interesting event.

  • Packard's, Oldsmobile's, Hudson's, Desotos's, Pontiac's, Nash, Studebaker's, Mercury's, Kaiser's, Monarch's, Edsel's, and that America all gone now. Glory Days, the Golden Age of America, fueled by the Cheap Oil Era, sliding from memories into the history books now, and a new reality for the American people, and not a happy one in comparison. Great long and very dark shadows cast over America from the huge pan-Eurasian empire rising in the East, Thorium fueled, oil free, and running on rice and veggies, and billions of hands making light work. Asians now control the fine balance of power over the U.S. dollar, and with this stick, the central communist planning committees often "suggest" the American political and military paths to take.  This old train but a relic of a time long passed, never to be revived, folklore now, as "Conscription" for Americans rears its Ugly head in a conflict with Iran, triggered by Israel, who have chosen to pull the American trigger for them! Never before an American government do beholden to another nation as to let themselves be so 'Used"? The new reality so soon upon the American people, and so sickening.

  • Tim F.

    You must be a blast at parties.

  • Interesting stuff here, from everyone's view point and links. 

  • As an assistant curator of the Gold Coast Railroad Museum, in Miami, Florida, I can confirm that the only car ever built for a "modern" President, is the FERDINAND MAGELLAN, which is parked at the museum. (A car was also built for President Lincoln, but Lincoln never traveled in it as he felt it was too opulent for a man of his background.)  The car in the picture is a baggage car, not a passenger car.  All of the trains used by Presidents from F.D. R. to George H.W. Bush, have used the MAGELLAN plus "pool cars" from various railroads in the consist, depending on the needs of the President and the requirements of the Secret Service and press corp.

    In the 1980's, when I was a member of the board of the American Association of Private Railroad Car Owners, we formally approached the Waldorf management with the hopes of using "Track 61" ( the old "house track" for the Waldorf) for a private car convention in New York.  The request was repeatedly turned down, despite having some pretty well connected members on the board.  The excuses for denial were varied but the determination to deny access was firm.  There are rumors to this day, that this section of track and it's associated switches and physical plant are maintained as just one of many solutions for evacuating a President from New York in an emergency scenario. 

  • The car was part of a train used to clear accidents within Grand Central Terminal. It's only been parked there since the 1980s after spending time parked in North White Plains yard. If it was such an important historical artifact, then why is is painted MTA blue, when FDR's private train was green? Because while it may be an nice piece of railroad history, it's got nothing to do the 32nd president.

    http://www.newyorkology.com/ar...

    "...hinted that one of the rail cars abandoned under the hotel may have belonged to
    President Franklin Roosevelt; unfortunately it's just not true, according to
    researchers at the FDR Museum."

  • I've seen a couple of stories about this over the years. Really not too much of a secret.

  • snessnyc

    How do we know that the rail car shown here was FDR's? Unless he died in the Waldorf (which he didn't - he died in Warm Springs, GA) why would it still be there - wouldn't he have left the Waldorf on the rail car the last time he stayed there before he died? And if it was left there, wouldn't the government or the Smithsonian or another museum have taken possession of it? Wikipedia and the Gold Coast Railroad Museum seem to think that FDR's rail car is in Florida. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...  Short version: I call B.S. on this being FDR's.

  • Jeff Mitchel

    This is the car that held his packard automobile. He, and the packard would come up the elevator to the streets of NY is how I understand it. This is not the railcar for him, but for the car.

  • snessnyc

    Yes, but he would not have left NY in his Packard, and it would have been loaded back on to this car and left NY along with him and his railcar. I am highly skeptical of any claim that this is what it's purported to be. I suspect urban legend.

  • personagratin

    The Florida railcar is an entirely different railcar. FDR didn't use just *one* railcar all his life.

    This particular Grand Central train was 99.9% likely owned by the New York Central Railroad and was just used by FDR when he was in the neighborhood.

  • snessnyc

    Still don't buy it, neither that a wartime president would use a railcar not owned by the government, that it wouldn't have been removed by the government, nor that it would still be there. See @James Hynes' comment and link below. This is another alligator in the sewers, i.e. urban myth - we want to believe it, but there's just no credibility.

  • MrMuseum

    OK. He may have had more than one railcar. This, however, is still not likely his. It is one of several hundred identical baggage cars once owned by the New York Central Railroad, which built Grand Central and operated it until it became public property in the 70s. (how do I know? Do a Google Images search for "New York Central Baggage Car"). Get that? Baggage car. You check your bags, you ride in the people-cars, your baggage goes in the baggage car. If it were built to load the President's Packard--have you seen it? It's at The Henry Ford Museum and it's huge--it would have almost certainly had a modified door arrangement that would have either permitted loading through the end, or that premitted generous-enough room to turn a huge frickin' Presidential limo 90 degrees into a 10-foot-wide space without risk of scratching it, breaking off the mirrors, etc. And, even if it was left there the last time FDR used it, it would have been in the way for the people who arrived at the hotel by the train well into the 1950s, and removed to become a museum exhibit, a regular baggage car, or razor blades. It's nice to think that that's something cool, but methinks that people will believe a cool story purely because they want to. Sorry, folks. Not everything is new and novel just because YOU have never heard of it before.

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