NYPD Reportedly Targeting Photographers At Occupation Of Wall Street

Photograph by Jim Kiernan for Gothamist

Photographs and especially videos of the NYPD's actions during the occupation of Wall Street have sparked outrage and media attention regarding the protests, which have now spanned ten days. Accordingly, witnesses, including our own photographer, tell us that the NYPD has been specifically targeting photographers and videographers for arrest. Two protestors who were maintaining the live video feed of the protests were arrested on Saturday, the first claiming that she was detained solely because she was holding a camera. "Those are the first people the police go after," protest organizer Patrick Bruner tells us. "They're always the first to get held up."

While it is well within a protestor's right to film a demonstration or an arrest, NYCLU spokesperson Jennifer Carnig tells us, "You cannot interfere with police action, i.e. get in the middle of an arrest to take a photo or make a video." It may be a stretch to say that those operating the protest's live stream would be able to physically "interfere" with an arrest while holding a laptop.

Times' Up! photographer Barbara Ross tells us that as she was filming Saturday's march down Broadway to Union Square, a white-shirted NYPD officer repeatedly warned her that she would be arrested unless she started marching with the demonstrators. "I was standing off to the side so I could document what was going on—you couldn't really see much from within the group," Ross says, "And he kept saying, 'You either join them or I'll arrest you.' I wasn't blocking traffic or harming anything, it was obvious it was because I was holding a camera."

Jim Kiernan, who was shooting Saturday's protests for Gothamist, said that NYPD officers were "definitely" zeroing in on anyone with a camera. At around 12th Street and Fifth Avenue, Kiernan saw a large black SUV pull up next to a few police supervisors. "It was Ray Kelly. He rolled down his window and I had a perfect shot but I knew if I pointed my camera at him I'd get arrested on the spot." Moments later, "a videographer who I had seen all day, who didn't seem to be part of the protest was arrested. One officer took her camera, another cuffed her," Kiernan said. "A few seconds later, another photographer next to her gets arrested—no provocation whatsoever. That's when I decided I was done for the day."

"The NYPD has been known to aggressively videotape people," Carnig says. Indeed, a police officer can be seen filming in this arrest video, presumably protecting them from any accusations of mistreatment. "We encourage people to let us know if they've been harassed by the cops for taking a photo or making a video." We've yet to receive comment from the NYPD.

Contact the author of this article or email tips@gothamist.com with further questions, comments or tips.

By Christopher Robbins in News on September 26, 2011 2:04 PM

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Un:dhimmi

Interesting to see what the media reaction would have been had this been a conservative-led protest and not the hard-left, union-enforced piece of misdirection it actually is.

Charlie Grapski

I have been analyzing all of the videos I can get a hold of - and trying to piece things together about what happened on 12th St that day. From my focus on the two now infamous pepper spray incidents of Bologna - I have been coming to a strong impression that there was something about cameras involved in much of the arrests - and even in the pepper spray incidents.

I have some comparative videos I have been using for analysis here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

These end just as the video segment that focuses on the second pepper spray incident commences. Although there is a video listed there (as camera 5) which shows that incident from another angle and is very revealing - as it shows the person filming that was the direct target of Bologna in incident 2 - but also shows that Bologna's immediate first target, before turning on the women, in incident 1 was also someone filming (the person operating that camera).

And it didn't seem to matter what kind of camera - because some were targeted for filming with small cameras and others with professional grade ones.

My impressions are not yet as strong as conclusions - particularly of a larger objective - but there certainly seems to be a hostility being displayed by the White-Shirts to being videotaped.

B00Klaw

Further on the story here:
http://brooklynian.com/forum/p...

ed_Ex2

The NYPD needs a major refresher course on the BILL OF RIGHTS: First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

scallywag

Sometimes a picture says more than words...

http://scallywagandvagabond.co...

J. Dennis Thomas

Photographers, know your rights.
http://t.co/vW2GWNSt

station44025

http://www.ustream.tv/everywhe...

Install it.

Even if they confiscate or destroy the device, too late: it's already on the Net. They'd have to shut down the wireless network like BART or Mubarak (or try to jam it locally), but that's never going to happen on Wall Street.

Sezar

NY is NOT one of the 14 sheepish states that adopted the "anti-filming" law. You DON'T need the consent of all parties to film something; however, since Americans are privacy conscious but law abiding they will be easily subdued or coerced into doing or not doing something by the higher authority. Even if it begins to smell like the communist regime.

Gadea

Honest NYPD Cops cannot afford to live in the city they patrol, they cannot afford
to shop in the stores. If they want their dollars to stretch, they have to live
in Upstate, NY, over an hours daily drive from NYC. They shop in Walmart, Kmart,
Price Choppers, their kids are wearing payless sneakers.
They are broke most of the time, barely have gasoline and lunch money.
The people they are protecting, the rich wall street bankers and traders,
live a lot better than NYPD Police Officers, eat better, dress better and live in better parts of
town. They can afford Manhattan, a NYPD Police Officer cannot, unless the apartment
subsidized.

lizz

If you all want to "document" and blend in - ie not get arrested - wear a suit. They won't touch you. And then document the shit out of that protest.

Gadea

In a lot of videos, I kept seeing a white guy, wearing a grey business suit,
with blonde blown out hair, throwing people to the ground.
In some videos, just his back is visible, in others his face for a brief
second and yet in another video he is helping to bring people down
to the ground.

santijose

They're afraid that the tourist will stop coming and the CITY goes back to New Yorkers. Maybe the yuppies will follow, well that's expecting too much.

nomadnewyork

Yep. Just like I said. I have video of other videographers who have been sprayed in the face with pepper spray at demonstrations. I've seen reporters (Daily News) get badly injured during police actions against peaceful demonstrators. Thanks again for reporting on this.

Roger_the_Shrubber

They miss the good old days when they could beat people up with little chance that anyone was recording it.

It's not just the NYPD, this is going on all over the country. Look at the way citizens are violated at the airports, a militarized, 4th amendment free zone.

EdwardAmame

Chris Hedges is a journalist (20+ years in Central Amer, Middle east, Balkans) & was part of a team of reporters at the NY Times who got a Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of global terrorism in 2002. Here's his take on the protest:

“The real people who are scared are the power elite. Of course, they’re trying to make you scared and us scared. But I can tell you, having been a reporter for the New York Times, that on the inside they’re very, very frightened. They do not want movements like this to grow, and they understand on some level — whether it’s subconscious or, in other cases, even overt — that the criminal class in this country has seized power.”

There's a long interview with him about it starting here.

Theodore Wirth

My entire adult life:

Once a PIG, always a PIG.

Welcome to Facism 101.

JoanAngelson

No wonder that woman in Queens killed her retired cop husband. These guys are crazy.

Jim Kueper

That cop who maced defensless women who were penned up against a wall, no matter why they were there, is a coward who should be fired immediatly. What a pussy he is.

brooklynRick

Yes!

Polite New Yorker

I agree that these protesters are largely disorganized and naive, but this is shameful conduct by the NYPD. The First Amendment applies equally to stockbrokers and smelly hippies.

john penley

I just reserved the steps of City Hall in NYC for Monday October 3 at 4pm for a press conference on police brutality against Wall Street protesters. 300 people will be allowed on the steps. John Penley

diablofreak

Gothamist should rename itself to the New York Anarchist.

All this hate is now diverted towards the NYPD for their mishandling of the protests and their responses, towards a local city police force, when your attention, your anger and hate should be directed to your federal government, to your congressmen, to the ineffectual executive leadership, to these so called "Wall Street" fat cats financial terrorists who probably never even need to step foot into the vicinity of Lower Manhattan.

There's not even an organized direction by this group. It's just anger towards the rich upper class in general. This about sums it up: "You're rich, we're not. We want to share, you don't. We hate you, but we don't have any real ideas on how to enforce a change without evolving into a socialist society, and if you're a cop here to watch over us, we hate you too."

Konrad_Lorenz

That old canard, that there is a lack of "ideas." Here's an idea: give money to people who don't have any income. Tax wealth to pay for it.

There, idea quest is over, NOW FOR THE POWER STRUGGLE.

nes718

NYPD didn't "mishandle" anything. This was a coordinate attack to try and get the protesters to respond so they could shut the whole thing down. Of course this strategy didn't work and instead blew up in NYPD's face.

edgie168

While I agree with you--in principle, regarding this protest--it still doesn't make it okay for NYPD to beat the fuck out of people for no good reason at all.

diablofreak

I'm not saying its okay, but at the same time this bunch of protesters is not gathering momentum due to their misplaced hate against a local police force, their lack of central leadership and focus, while simultaneously causing a ruckus downtown where tons of people and small businesses in their own lower/middle class --- ones which they claim they're fighting for --- are trying to go about their jobs and everyday lives normally to make an honest living. All this while the fatcats are still drinking their Krugs, smoking their Cubans, flying their G6s, sending prostitutes to your senators, and LOL'ing at the shitshow going on downtown from their 90" Plasma TVs.

All these combined, and you have a group of people who the general public will see and attribute as deadbeat protesters barely a class above the London rioters. and they wonder why they're not seeing national coverage.

Sinchy

Why are the protesters "deadbeats"? It seems to me that people who have the inclination and initiative to protest and fight for the change that they think is important are the opposite of "deadbeat".
I support these protesters but I'm not yet motivated enough to get down and dirty because I have a full time job and a family and i'm pretty comfortable. So good for them for using their free time to fight for change instead of sitting around playing video games.

farleft

I realize this is the internet, so I should not be surprised by the lack of intelligent contributions on these forums, but your posts are so riddled with fail that I can't help but wonder if (a) you work on wall street, (b) you somehow benefit financially from wall street's well-documented criminality, or (c) you are still in middle school blindly parroting your conservative parent's skewed opinions. Those are really the only logical choices given the logically impaired comments you've made. I mean, even people who work on Wall Street have admitted to serious business & ethical failures, not to mention direct culpability of the economic crisis. To criticize these protesters for taking a stand against this government-sponsored failure, which has adversely affected the majority of our lives while significantly enriching theirs, is simply dumb.

edgie168

no, the issue is that there's no real clear "leadership" and/or mouthpiece for the protesters. while i [now] realize this is an attempt at collective protesting, this does not, however, endear themselves to the public at large.

and that's who these kids are trying to reach, right?

i had an argument with somebody who gave me condescending responses such as "sorry, no soundbite for you". well shit, if a reasonably educated person like myself doesn't quite "get" this entire protest, how the fuck do you expect the masses to understand or sympathize with any of it?

yeah, people should be smarter, bla bla but the truth is, most people aren't. or they just don't give enough of a shit because they're too busy trying to make ends meet.

Konrad_Lorenz

The point isn't to "endear" the "public at large". The point is to cause such an undeniable problem that the powerful must address the concerns of the powerless.

And any talk about articulating demands, as if it were some grand mystery what kind of policies would benefit the powerless, is just bullshit.

edgie168

and if you don't get the masses behind you, how exactly did you expect to get very far?

diablofreak

Thank you. i merely thought to provide a cogent analysis of the collective minds amid the protesters and its ineffectiveness in this case versus the Arab Spring uprising, and just to point out the lack of focused leadership, and i get called out for working for wall streets, somehow benefit from the billionaires, or blindly following my parents.

edgie168

It's not misplaced when you get your face maced and beat for, at worst, inconveniencing a relatively small amount of people.

if anything, NYPD is doing a great job of either directing more interest in the protesters and their cause(s) or diverting even more attention away from it [and instead getting press for the beatings than anything else].

iirc, they weren't even bitching about the cops at all, at least for the first couple of days.

btw i think we're talking in circles now, but let me reiterate: i agree with you, but it still doesn't excuse NYPD for what they're doing.

edgie168

NYPD's really taking this social media thing to heart these days, huh? I see at least three cops posting in this article alone..

Don't you guys have better, more pressing crimes to solve?

mistermarkdavis

They're not cops, just fascism fanboys, HONEST.

hotstepper

they've got a point. cameras impede on the NYPD's ability to anonymously body slam, mace, or rip the hair out of pacifist meat-starved protesters. its tough out there for those poor police...

bggb

Police state.

Why don't you do something about Bloomberg? Oh yeah, you're one of the banksters yourself.

David Nguyen

Yes, they have been riding the coat tail of 9/11 for too long now. Its like Bush using the word terrorism. Last I remember this was a 'free' country in which the citizens has the right to assembly, right to free speech (First amendment). We aren't living in a Marxist society.

I was at Union Square a couple nights ago where a drunk man was causing a fight/harassing between a group of people and the police officer who was probably 250ft away was so busy chatting that he didn't even see/notice/hear it where everyone else had stopped in their tracks. It took a another person to walk over and inform the guy that maybe he should chatting and get the f*#% over and resolve the situation which was getting out of hand.

Gothamistriss

They're right to freedom of speech doesn't trump my right to walk freely on a public sidewalk to get to work.

nes718

You'll be singing the protesters praises when you don't have to "got to work" anymore. Promise.

jamieob256

Yes, it does.

boomshanka

which is amendment is that, by the way?

nunyadamn

Really? You'd trample on freedom of speech because it is annoying to you to walk 20 paces out of your way?

edgie168

Don't get in the way of Officer Gothamistriss and her dunkin' donuts.

randomtransplant

" "I was standing off to the side so I could document what was going on—you couldn't really see much from within the group," Ross says, "And he kept saying, 'You either join them or I'll arrest you.' I wasn't blocking traffic or harming anything, it was obvious it was because I was holding a camera." "
This brings up something I've been wondering...at what point do 'observers' become bound by the rules of 'protesters'?

They don't, right? They can't call me a commuter/lunch-breaker and some other guy right next to me a "protester", right?

Down by wall street itself...jeebus. This can't be "official" protocol. Separating the ordinary tourists who run into the march and snap shots from the people specifically filming the protest seems like it would get very messy, very quick.

Wouldn't/wont the established media push back if they can't make stories of whatever it is they choose to film? Shouldn't they?

Does this just mean if you wear a decent shirt and follow the marches, they can't stick you behind the fence? Based on looks? Or are they willing to close off entire streets during the march, for however long the march goes? That would get impossibly messy.

This doesn't sound like an offical directive. Which makes it even worse!

JR

People covering this should be issued press credentials.

farleft

Why? It's a public space. You can take pictures and video whether or not you're with the press. No expectation of privacy, no need for press credentials.

SFNY

Why make it easier for the cops to spot & arrest them?

burgerbuilders

Cameras: The new WMDs.

q`Tzal

Knowledge and awareness is the WMD of the 21st century.

With things like:
"a 600-year-old dog-eating carnival Jinhua City, has been shut down for good after outrage “voiced on the Internet” led officials to reconsider the festival’s merits"
happening the old guard is fearful of the next generation's knowledge of its crimes.

It has become obvious that the uncoordinated attacks of Anonymous are quite powerful and are devastating when more of the public is involved.
If corrupt powers that be want to retain their power they must prevent the public from knowing just how bad they are behaving.

Perhaps ARPANET going public was intentionally a military tactic: by bringing the world closer together, intellectually and educationally, slowly we have become the sort of world that isn't in as much of a hurry to nuke the planet. Far too often in history wars have been prompted by poor intel and far worse understand of ones neighbors.

Cameras everywhere, in public, allow people to react with certainty towards corrupt public officials as common knowledge is backed up by empirical fact and not rumor.

mistermarkdavis

I don't think anyone had any idea of the implications of making ARPANET public. Saying it's part of some conspiracy is silly business.

q`Tzal

Not a conspiracy, merely the optimistic hopes of the scientists who failed to mention "free thinking" related side effects to military backers who where only interested in its functionality as comm support platform.

TakeThePledge

I think this article is a stretch, and just something (anything) Gothamist can post to make the police look bad and give attention to the protest.

I spent about an hour down there and almost every single person has a camera, you can even see that in the videos. Everybody's got one. The ones getting arrested either didn't follow orders or stepped over the lines to try to get a better shot.

farenbalanced

I agree with you. I took a look down there and yes, virtually everyone had a camera. What Gothamist does is called a lie of omission.
The biggest omission? Not reporting what happened to that cop Bologna, who idiotically pepper sprayed the crowd (and some of his fellow cops)
His name and address were posted on the Internet (questionable, but ok, we can argue that one) but ALSO THE NAMES OF HIS KIDS AND ADDRESSES OF THEIR SCHOOLS.

farenbalanced

To finish: Posting the names of his kids and their schools is beneath despicable. I was 100% behind the protestors when they started. But these types of actions make me sick to my stomach.

www.newyorkgritty.net

torchTheMall

because you cant beat up everyone with a cellphone

nes718

The police made themselves look bad by acting like gorillas. Nuff said.

EdwardAmame

The NYPD should rethink tactics. Bloomberg/Kelly are gonna give new life
to the protest and a reason for more media coverage. Somebody up there
is really nervous and I'm a little surprised. This protest may be getting legs.

Amber

Well I'm glad that the Gothamist is giving this protest attention, considering how hardly any other media outlets are.

farleft

You were there for 1 hour and you think your brief observations during that 1 hour can extend to all of the days this protest has been going on?

I have to admit that I did not see the point of this protest when it first started. I've been to enough of these types of protests to know that 95% of them are characterized by ridiculous publicity gimmicks like die-ins and political costumes and an occasional witty sign...all of which have no effect on the supposed cause. But as the days have passed, I find myself supporting their efforts because it's abundantly clear that the state has been directed to suppress, violently assault, and jail voices of dissent even when no crimes have been committed. If only the city prosecuted the criminals on Wall Street with the same rigor and conviction that they do these protesters. It's a disgrace that our own government, which claims to be a fair democracy, responds so violently to peaceful voices of dissent.

mrnvr

I mean it's tough... you can't even get a rape conviction to stick on these guys, let alone assault.

Dunce_Party

The general public is as much responsible for that as the legal system. A majority of people have a huge misconception of police and the way they interact with citizens. Most people are brainwashed into thinking that the policeman is your friend and that he's here to help you and protect you from the bad guys. This may have been true in 1950s suburbia, but as the decades went on, law enforcement has gradually turned into groups of paramilitaries with an us versus them mentality towards the public.

mrnvr

"stepped over the line" so you aren't allowed to be in the street even if you aren't part of the protest? You sound like a domestic abuse victim... oh, my husband beat me because i stepped out of line.

After these events and the piece on 60 minutes about NYPD embedding themselves all over the world I think we need to reevaluate their roll in the community.

They can look for terrorists in Paris but they can't look for murderers in Bed Stuy? WTF?!?!

TakeThePledge

Stepped over the line... as in literally, stepped over the line.

We were given areas we could protest in... those that decided they didn't like them and spilled onto the sidewalk where people were walking were given a hard time.

edgie168

Didn't realize it was okay to arrest people for walking on the sidewalk to take a picture.

EdwardAmame

It's not ok. The protesters must really be freaking out the powers-that-be.

Dunce_Party

True. Once a protest gets too big or too popular for their liking, the first thing they start to do is detain photographers to keep what's happening out of the pubic eye. Same thing happened in Cairo earlier this year, with many reports of journalists and even tourists being detained and having their cameras confiscated during the protests in Tahrir Square.

edgie168

"Gothamist can post to make the police look bad and give attention to the protest."
Oh please. NYPD, which I'm sure you're a part of, does that JUST fine on their own.

G00SEiv

I'm not a police officer and I completely agree with TakeThePledge.. Just went out there

(Zuccotti Park) and there are people with cameras literally everywhere. It's just another case of what media wants to advertise, and of course it's the bad news.

ktinnyc

"It's just another case of what media wants to advertise, and of course it's the bad news."

Newspaper headlines in G00Seiv's world;

89% of People Employed!
Many People Didn't Have Their Homes Foreclused
4 Out of 5 New Yorkers Above Poverty Line
Most of Texas Not on Fire

Gothamistriss

They don't need their help in doing so... but goth is quick to lend a hand.

e non

ah, yes, ray kelly ... that great defender of freedom of expression... recall those 'freedom zones' ray provided miles away and secluded for the protesters at the republican convention in 2004...

ktinnyc

NYPD is acting like this is 1991 and not 2011. Everyone has the ability to document what is going on with cell phones pictures and videos. Arresting a few people for taking pictures or videos isn't going to keep people from seeing NYPD abuse. Here's an idea, stop breaking the law by macing and arresting people just because they annoy you.

nntogo

The sad thing is the protestors have been so overblown and melodramatic that even if the cops did do something legitimately grotesque now, i'm already switched off to their pleas.

whiteiris

NYPD is also wisely documenting the protest :
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-con...

Daniel

Stop that, you're interfering with a one sided narrative being told here...

BigKate

the police in the UK have been documenting events for at least 20 years.I stood and chatted to police recording teams when they were documenting LGBT pride in the 90's . The police officer happily chatting about both the tech they were using and that they had friends on the force/service who were gay.

Have a look at halting state and rule 34 by charles stross where he talks about technology that is already being trailed with various police forces - that of life logging - where every police officer MUST record and stream everything they see and do and it will securely written to legally secure servers just to avoid these sorts of incidents. It's both a massive advantage to the police in day to day crime prevention and weeds out suspect and poor policing that destroys peoples trust in the police. if life logging was in effect, a court to order access to every police officers log of the incident and reconstruct what happened from so many angels that it would be possible to create virtual stereo cameras to see the incident from any angle

Daniel

You completely missed the point of that comment. It was meant in the spirit of what you are saying.

splicernyc

No, they're acting as if it's 1934 in Berlin.

PrettyAmiable

Seriously. Life is so hard, it is JUST LIKE being in opposition to a Nazi regime. Great comparison.

splicernyc

Wow, you're so cool when you're indignant. Maybe from now on people should just say Generic Repressive Regime to satisfy your need for nothing to ever be compared to Germany between 1933 and 1945.

PrettyAmiable

Also, if you're looking for things that might be compared to the Holocaust, take a look at Darfur. I know you didn't think "hey, my life is just like a Sudanese genocide victim" because you strike me as an ignorant toolbag and the Holocaust is low-hanging fruit. But if someone was like, "Hey, my life is pretty similar to 1934 Berlin" and the fucker was from Sudan? I would be okay with that.

fixilator

Okay, so we should wait until we're as bad off as the Sudanese before standing up for ourselves. Gotcha. Thanks.

BigKate

there is nothing wrong with standing up for yourself but comparing this to mass murder is frankly stupid

A better comparison is to the May day protest in the UK. Were large groups of innocent passers by were kettled for upto 12 hours without acess to food, water or toilets and where on at least one occasion one man was so severely beaten with sticks by police that he later died

In the UK it comparably normal these days for the police to setal people cameras and arrest them for the 'crime' of taking a picture of a police officer (it's not a crime and their has been a big campaign about it)

Tom Taylor

stand up for yourself? how does mobbing Wall Street help you personally?

PrettyAmiable

If it means idiots don't co-opt the murder and imprisonment of millions because they're not intelligent enough to succinctly identify their comparatively amazing lives, then yeah, Generic Repressive Regime is just fine. NYPD are not Gestapo. You are not a Jew in in 1930s Germany. You are not some tragic hero. Get over it.

Linneus

Learn to read; he said 19*3*4, not 19*4*4 - back when the Nazis were just harassing the Jews and people who disagreed with them, not imprisoning them ...

BigKate

whilst i agree that splicernyc analogy to Nazi Germany is frankly stupid. Please do not assume that Nazi = oppression and killing of Jews. Yes Jews were oppressed in 1934 Germany, but similar ideas were openly expressed all over the world for example in New York. A year earlier in May 1933 were the first book burnings, which was widely copied across Germany in 1934. One of the first book burnings were of Marcus Hirshfelds library of texts about what we would today call the Queer community i.e. LGB and especially transgender people . A good place to start to understand the history of the period might be the film BENT a fictional account of the interning of LGB men and women in 1933. In the case of transgender people they were typically beaten to death on the street

splicernyc

A "tragic hero"? Where did that rubbish come from. I'm no hero, I just made a shorthand observation that the way the police are acting are classic examples of the beginnings of repression. Control the message and control the truth. Go after the press first to stifle dissent. The corporate controlled media are not going to cover this stuff and the police want to make sure that no "unfortunate" images go viral the way the pepper spray video did. I'm sorry, there is no rule that I know of nor signed onto that says certain associations shall not be made because someone says so.

BigKate

actually i first heard about this when Michael Moore was talking to piers Morgan on CNN, as repeated across the planet on Monday night here in the UK

I found this page via a link on slashdot - a geek news service

nes718

A crackdown Mubarak would be proud of! LOL!

farenbalanced

A little extreme, I'd say. A bigger question is, why do you use a photo of that scumbag Ahamadinejad as your avatar?

FU Boy

It's not because they're annoyed. They're just "following orders."

Investigate-NWO-globalists

Yes, this is becoming too embarrassing for the banksters, Wall Street manipulators, & our other glorious leaders!!!

Das Gestapo have been summoned, und order will soon be restored!!!

In the meantime, continue giving up your remaining rights to gov't & corporations for safety & protection!!!

randomtransplant

I wish they would follow orders all those times I had property damage and/or worse which I've tried to report.

They don't have to follow orders if and when they don't want to.