This area of brooklyn can become very violent around this time of year especially holiday weekends like labor day weekend when they began to celebrate this west indian parade in brooklyn and the violence seems to stem from this activity happening in the area . The problem is not merely the guns like the article says he was a career criminal that had a score to settle with someone I guess and he did it , people like that shouldnt have guns at all because he is killing from anger not self defense from what i read . Then the lady was outside minding her business and gets hit by a stray bullet it seems like every summer in nyc has to end with a bang. The thing that makes me mad is when the criminals get away with it and continue to commit their crimes on innocent people in this case he was caught but he is still alive , I am surprised after all the times the cops shot him but yet I think the the guy he shot died from one shot to the neck? unbelievable but this is why people say the cops harass them when they search them hmmm i wonder why ? but anyway Im glad I was far away from that place as possible.

Wow, to all the ignorant comments. But thank God for the evidence based arguments as well. There a problem with gun-violence all over the US. In Brooklyn particularly the petty crimes have decreased but fatal crimes are rising. So what do we do? "Ban/take away guns," some say. Wake up, this is one of those 'we are too far in the hole' situations where it is a lose/lose. As far as the West Indian parade goes; this has also gotten too far out of hand. I was born and raised in Brooklyn & of West Indian decent. Another lose/lose situation. You have those trying to salvage what is left of our culture but a society that thrives on violence. The fight is keeping the parade/ culture alive. Yes, you could try to search every person that nears the parade route such as New years celebration. But unlike Times Square, Eastern Pkwy had residencies of either side, subway entrances/exits along the parade route. Over the years J'Ouvert has become shorter and shorter; 2010 for instance the streets were cleared by 4am. This for one defeats the purpose for the celebration;however, it also gave a smaller time frame for violence. Honestly, there is no sure fire way to end all the killings & stabbings. We can only try enforcing more policies and see to it that the community understands that all the "coonery" is jeopardizing this cultural experience.

These are not ignorant comments we are just stating our opinion on the true facts that the west indian parade is a problem and like you said searching people will not work especially when their are millions of people that need to be searched and there are people that live right along the parade route so no that will not work and I dont even know why they allow j'ouvert which just extends it and allows room for violence to happen , it was cut off at 4 am wow it should have been stopped way before that , I dont even think it should exist .

If you were to add "coonery" to Webster's dictionary, how would you define it?  I ask this because it seems like you used the word "coonery" as a substitute for the word "violence".

So, since blacks ran around killing Jews for 3 days in Crown Heights since one Jewish guy committed a car accident I assume they will riot over this? They will attack people of the same ethnicity of the perpetrators?

"career criminals" shouldn't be out free and on the street

This happened just a few blocks from my house and while its awful for that poor woman and her family, this was a case of two 30-something year old men escalating a slap fight into a mass shooting.  There's just no way to prepare against such random bullshit.  

Nothing palatable anyway.  I suppose if every single man, woman and child in a neighborhood was stopped and frisked without reason and anyone carrying an illegal handgun was locked away for 10 years minimum, that may put away some knuckleheads, but are the law abiding citizens going to stand for that crap?

And the universal stop and frisk would have to be, for fairness sake, applied in every NYC nabe. So would law abiding wealthy Upper East side types going to allow themselves to be frisked by cops?  I don't think so.

This is my favorite weekend of the year to work in Brooklyn.  I really wonder for how many years they are going to let this absurd behavior go on.  

I agree Im pretty sure alot of hospitals are crowded in brooklyn during or after the parade

As long as they think they can get votes out of it.

Next year, do it right down 5th Avenue like everyone else has to. Guaranteed removing the parade from the neighborhood and the "festival" will cut down on violence immediately.

They either need to stop this parade all together or like you said move it somewhere else and see what happens , might be better and it might even get worse

The Crow Hill Community Association is organizing a rally in Crown Heights to unite the neighborhood against gun violence following the Labor Day shootings. 

Information here: http://www.facebook.com/event.... 

thats not going to help anything or fix anything maybe they need to end this parade and see what happens when its not there anymore and the streets there are not over crowded the way it is when this parade is happening . I just find it odd that this area although does have random crime here and there around this time it is always worse dont you?

So long as this sort of thing is confined to non-white areas, it will be viewed as just another opportunity to "tsk tsk" others.  Unlike the case in Philly and Chicago and lots of other cities in the midwest and south, there have been no violent flash mob attacks here  - yet.

I dont think it's accurate to call this area non-white.

@JoeBolton, you actually believe that there's a media conspiracy to "suppress" mentions of violent incidents at this event? Then how do you explain some of the nearly-hysterical coverage of the shootings on this page, not to mention in the Post, Daily News, NY1, Times etc? If anything the media seems to be making an assumption - totally unfounded - that there is a connection between the parade and the 40-some shooting incidents that took place over the weekend, when in reality only 3 incidents took place on or near the parade route (including the one above, which occurred hours later). Not to say it's not disturbing and sad, but blaming "political correctness" and "media conspiracies" is a tired old trope.

Well lets see, I have worked the parade for over 25 years and have responded to many a shooting and stabbings.  Everyone of them has been documented in my activity log.  Take all of my logs (yes I have everyone of them, we are all required to keep them) and match the papers with those logs and you sir will be unpleasantly surprised.  The difference between you and me is that I lived and worked these acts of violence as a first responder, you on the other hand are fed what the media chooses and thinks you should read.  After that you prance along thinking you know everything. 

Strange that I'm the one supposedly regurgitating what the media "feeds" me when the point of my original post was to question the media's version of events, which appears to attribute 40+ incidents (no one seems to be able to even get the number straight) over a 3-day weekend, across several boroughs, to this parade.

Regardless of the actual numbers, I'm not disputing that there were violent incidents associated with the carnival this year or in years past, but I do take issue with your characterization of the parade and of those who participate in it - of whom the vast majority are peaceful and law-abiding - as exemplars of "savagery." I'm sorry you have had to deal with violent incidents as a first responder, but your comments, like those of others here, suggest the utter contempt with which you seem to view the people in this community. And that is another difference between you and me.

Profgriff, your living in a fantasy world.  Slap on a gun belt and stand in the middle of all the beautiful pageantry and soak in the flavor of the Caribbean beat for 12 plus hours.  But make sure you look down every once in while because you just might have to step over a body or two, and don't walk around by yourself, because you might wind up on top of a police car while 50 club wielding party goers who are trying to cruller your face in.  If you get a chance can you stick your fingers down some young drunken girls mouth to dislodge the vomit that's caught in her throat.  Here's a tip, if your standing on your post and see multiple flashes of muzzle fire, try to gauge the time between the light and sound, if you can't that's because there shooting within 10 feet of your sorry a$$.  If 200 screaming and boozed up pillars of the community come running at you, don't run with them, brace yourself and wait for them to pass, a few seconds behind you'll get a clear shot of an a$$hole or two who are shooting indiscriminately in the air or at you.  Son, don't tell me what I know and what I have experienced until you've walked a mile in my shoes. If you think I judge people by the color of their skin or what they eat, or how they worship without knowing me, your guilty of exactly  the same thing your accusing me of.  "suggest the utter contempt with which you seem to view the people in this community."

3? Are you high?