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Video: Cop Doors Cyclist, Then Demands To Know If He's On Drugs

You've got to hand it to the NYPD for keeping cyclists on their toes; sometimes they'll almost door you then chase you down and arrest you; other times they do door you, and blame you for probably being on drugs. That second scenario was described by a cyclist who was doored by an oblivious cop near Grand Central Terminal. Here's video of the door knocking him right off his bike:

The cyclist, Stephen Mann, tells us "the cop opened his door just enough to catch my knee and handle bars and send me off the bike to land on a hapless bystander, and a stopped taxi cab. I expressed my anger with him, and informed him of the law that states you must check traffic for cars, pedestrians and bicycles before opening a drivers side door into traffic." It's true, but seldom enforced, and certainly not self-enforced by the NYPD. Mann recalls:

I was instantly surrounded by about 7 cops who all started asking me questions, like was I drunk, or on drugs, or how long have I been riding bikes, and all sorts of foolishness. At the same time the driver of the van was reprimanded by another police officer and told to get back in the van and "shut up". Prior to that he asked me why I was riding my bike in the street.

Meanwhile I was bleeding all over my leg and bike, and a random stranger came over and gave me Neosporin and some bandages, which is ten times more than any of the cops did. They filled out an accident report and asked if I wanted an ambulance. I hesitated and wasn't sure, when another police officer came over and told me "get checked" and so I said I wanted to get checked out. But the other cops quickly ushered the helpful police officer away from their group. It was like some sort of bad crime story cover-up; they huddled around me and seemingly tried to intimidate me. I really do think they asked if I was on drugs close to 10 times.

Though Mann said he felt like he was wasting resources, he had an ambulance come anyway, and the EMTs offered to take him to the hospital. But he opted to just let them splash some solvent on the gash in his knee and bandage it. Mann tells us the police refused to give him their names, refused to give him a copy of the accident report, and told him he'd have to contact the local precinct in Manhattan to obtain it. "But since they were all from Brooklyn, they didn't know what the local precinct actually was, and told me to look it up," Mann explains.

"There were never any apologies given," Mann adds, but what do you expect when you get in the way of an important NYPD door opening? Asked why he was videotaping, the 37-year-old animator tells us, "I started taping my rides after witnessing so many things on the bike, and I had heard about a dude in Canada who taped everyday and made a compilation of pedestrians stepping off curbs in front of him, and cars nearly hitting him. So I thought of doing the same. Especially if anything ever did happen, I would have a nice memory of it."

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  • Guest
    Too many comments to check and see if this was said or not, but... FUCK THE POLICE!
  • I don't live in NY, so I'm curious... is white lining it to bypass traffic legal?
  • redcons2
    Thats news?????
  • heartbeatdown
    I rode a bike once.

    Can I be part of this convo?
  • Biker: "The LAW says..."
    Love how the bike jerks know all about traffic laws:   http://vimeo.com/24572222
  • Investigate-NWO-globalists
    More like fascist goons than "New York's Finest."
  • Guest
    P.O. Richards, shield 2946 from the 70 in Brooklyn.   Male black, 5'10" approx 165 pounds, close cropped hair, sunglasses. This officer is the biggest POS in NYC. If you see him avoid him. If you can not avoid him, be prepared to take drastic defensive action against him. This cop is a piece of human garbage that deserves to get a dozen kicks in the head.
  • Peanut_Butter
    How, may I ask, did you ascertain the information and how have you verified that this is the actual identity of the officer in question?
  • Police officers of the NYPD are REQUIRED by the dept. to give ANYONE who asks their name and shield number to give it to them...not just point at the badge and nameplate but actually tell the person asking for that info. Just the act of not identifying your name and shield can lead to disciplinary action....if the brass gave a crap.
  • Peanut_Butter
    I always take a gander at their shield above their breast pocket and I make it look like I'm looking for their name, as if to address them as Officer so-and-so.  This does 3 things: 1.  I sound more polite.  2. I learn his name.  3. He knows I learned his name.
  • Guest
    The first thing I do is look at the shield and memorize the number. A lieutenant or higher rank has no shield number but must give you their tax registry number if asked.
  • whitecastlerock
    Where is the rest of the video?
  • brwnmamba
    can someone slo-mo or conduct CSI magic on the video and catch the license plate on the vehicle?

    are these cops double parked? and what are cops from brooklyn doing by grand central?


    another case of cops above the law- i can't believe they didn't offer names.
  • he should have just slowed down a bit. seems the biker expects for all who gets in his path to know better. hes wrong. what if it was a pedestrian who step out in front of him traffic was stopped. i wouldve open the door normally as other a-holes do. hes lucky.
  • AlexTheOriginalPartyDog
    Can we all just agree that both cops and bikers suck nuts, and talk important things, like Daddy Loco??
  • G Z
    I think all you dozens, nay hundreds, of commenters have finally cracked it! You've all finally done it! Congrats!!! This whole car vs. bike vs. pedestrian discussion can be finally laid to rest. Thank you all for your dilligent and oh-so-very astute commenting. Yay internet!
  • Peanut_Butter
    You're welcome.  Thank you for the kind words.
  • i think the cops are becoming or are militarized bullies.  Kelly needs to leave/resign. It starts at the top.
  • Peanut_Butter
    Perhaps he is incompetent (ie, incapable of controlling the rogue members).  Maybe he's too focused on the anti-terror aspect of police work.  Maybe the attitude is union-driven.  Dunno...
  • If a slightly cracked door is hitting you, you're on the wrong side of the line.
  • Peanut_Butter
    It looked like the gap between the cab and cop's van was barely wide enough to fit the bike, thus making it easier for a cracked door to contact perhaps his handlebar.  But we cannot see the actual moment of contact and how much the cop had reopened the door and how suddenly.
  • Peanut_Butter
    The position of his bicycle with respect to the lane appeared to me to be lawful.  It's the speed with which he was traveling under the circumstances, and his apparent failure to notice the cracked police van door that I take issue with.
  • scriptJack
    well if you count it takes about 3 seconds to pass each taxi I think the fish eye lens makes it appear that he's moving much faster than he actually is, and I think that's more than a cracked door, it looks like it was opened a crack, and then pushed out, otherwise I don't think it would have caught
  • Peanut_Butter
    I saw the cop crack the door, and close it.  Then, beyond the lens, he must have reopened it and caught the handlebar (at that moment, we cannot see the footage).  I think the biker said it also caught his knee?
  • Yeah.  I'm surprised they didn't take it.
  • Why did he have a camera on?
  • Peanut_Butter
    He may have done that for documentation purposes, in case of an accident.  But from the looks of it, it seemed like he was waiting for it to happen.
  • ktinnyc
    Are people on this site just to look at th pretty pictures?
  • Peanut_Butter
    Of course, why are you here?
  • Peanut_Butter
    And where is your pretty picture?
  • ktinnyc
    'Asked why he was videotaping, the 37-year-old animator tells us, "I started taping my rides after witnessing so many things on the bike, and I had heard about a dude in Canada who taped everyday and made a compilation of pedestrians stepping off curbs in front of him, and cars nearly hitting him. So I thought of doing the same. Especially if anything ever did happen, I would have a nice memory of it." '

    Reading the article sometime proves useful.
  • That point being: maybe a a person on a bike shouldn't be using their camera while he/she cruises past cars in a traffic jam.

    Save the insults for the next guy to whack you with a car door.
  • ktinnyc
    Holy shit, so not only did you not read the article but you didn't watch the video because it is very clear the camera is mounted on his bicycle.
  • the camera is mounted on the handlebars and most likely no bigger than in iphone. he's not holding a camera in one hand and controlling the bike with the other.
  • Here's the law:  "§ 1231 - Traffic Laws Applicable to Persons Riding Bicycles
    Bicyclists are granted all rights and subject to all duties applicable to operator 
    of vehicle except where not applicable."  In other words, if it's illegal for motorists to do, then it's illegal for bicyclists to do.
    Now please show us the law that says white-lining rules do not apply to bicyclists and you'll win the argument.
  • Peanut_Butter
    For example: is there a law against texting while bicycling? 

    Come on, a little further thought would have dispelled your attempted analogy.
  • Actually, yours was a poor analogy.  That law applies strictly to motor vehicles and the law is clearly written to state that.  The road laws in general are across the board.  The law says "Bicyclists are granted all rights and subject to all duties applicable to operator of vehicle except where not applicable."  The texting law is not applicable to cyclists, as the law states.
  • Peanut_Butter
    You may have a good point, but more importantly, how does that support your argument with respect to this particular situation?  I think the bicyclist's position in the lane is fine.
  • Gwinny
    "in other words" you are just making up shit to suit you.
  • I didn't make anything up.  I just explained in simple terms what the regulation means.  Still waiting for someone to prove that the laws regarding traffic lanes don't apply to cyclists.  But I guess you can't so you're resorting to insults.
  • Gwinny
    Actually, you ARE imposing your own definition where there isn't any. Nowhere in the bike rules given in the DOT does there say anything about a white line.  But I guess since you can't prove that, you are merely resorting to whining about the fact that you can't support your own limp, useless, and illogical arguments.
  • "Solid lines along the side of the road tell you where its edge is - where the travel lane ends and the road's shoulder begins. It is illegal to drive across the edge line, except when directed to do so by a police officer or other authorized official." - NYS DMV Driver's Guide
  • Gwinny
    New York State does not have the same biking rules as NYC.  I feel like I'm talking to a child, and it's getting tiresome.
  • You're too funny!  The DOT won't specifically state rules for bikes if it's an across-the-board law for ALL vehicles.  Bikes must obey all traffic laws the same as cars do unless there are specific provisions written for them.
  • sarafrass
    The "right side of the driving lane", if a car is in the driving lane, is a very narrow strip of road, i think that it might make it impossible to not ride the line, which forces a cyclist to take the whole lane, which, if there is traffic, is not really a safe alternative, unless you want a whole lot of pissed off drivers swerving around you.
  • I am not disputing that the reality of the NYC cycling experience and what is written in the law are not exactly on the same page here.  If it's not a safe road for a cyclist to drive on without them feeling forced to ride on the white line, which in itself is dangerous, then perhaps they should take an alternate route.
  • sarafrass
    You would be hard pressed to find a road in NYC where a cyclist isn't forced to ride the white line at some point. To say that a cyclist should find an alternate route (if one even exists) is a double standard. How about if drivers (and we're talking about a cop who doored a cyclist who was not breaking any laws that we know of) make an effort to keep the roads safe for all users?
  • chuzzlewit
    so you're supposed to ride on the right.
    if the cars stop at a red light, and given that there is room so that you don't ride on the line, are you supposed to continue to the red light in your "slice" of right hand lane?
  • Yes, that is ok.
  • chuzzlewit
    and you acknowledge that it is against state law to irresponsibly open your car door where other traffic is concerned?
  • LICnative
    If he had stayed in his lane and not attempted to start one of his own, he would have been fine. He gambled that he could save time by riding between lanes. He lost.

    He's lucky to be alive. Driving like that can leave you dead.
  • Gwinny
    Right. And if he'd taken an entire lane of traffic (as admittedly is his right, but is not REQUIRED), he'd have a line of angry, impatient NYC drivers lined up behind him, ready to run him down. Riding like that can leave you dead.
  • Gwinny
    Once again, please tell us where you are seeing this magical, mysterious law.
  • Gwinny
    § 1234 - Riding on roadways, shoulders, bicycle lanes and bicycle paths
    Must ride bicycle on the right side of the roadway (some conditions and exceptions apply 
    - see also N.Y.C. Traffic Rules and Regulations Section 4-12); 

    § 4-12 (p) – Bicycles• Bicycle riders must use bike path/lane, if provided, except for access, safety, turns, etc. • Other vehicles shall not drive on or across bike lanes except for access, safety, turns, etc. • Bicyclists may use either side of a 40-foot wide one-way roadway.
  • And the right side of the roadway is not the white line.  It's the right side of the driving lane.
  • I would like to note that just even if it is against traffic rules to ride the white line, it doesn't mean that the cars don't have to look when they open their doors. 

    And then you're going to ask why...
    It's because what the guy did is common practice for bicyclists.  And the dooring law is supposed to prevent exactly what happend here.  And just because they're not supposed to do it (which I'm not 100% convinced they're not supposed to), you can't open your door recklessly and say, "they're breaking the rules [not law, idiot] and it's not my fault"
  • I didn't say the cop should have doored him.  I said he wasn't expecting someone to be coming down the road on the white line when traffic was stopped.  Generally I find that most parking lanes allow for the car doors to be opened without swinging over the line into the other lane.
  • spiv
    I'm a cyclist, I videotape a lot of my rides, I realize the cops are generally jerkoffs to riders, and the citizenry at large, but - this guy deserved it for centerlining between the lane and the parking lane. As much as we may hate it, we can't expect respect if we don't accept that we're vehicles and have to obey traffic laws. I think the ticket surge vs. cyclists is absurd and counterproductive but if riders weren't such assholes we might not draw so much undue attention.
  • chuzzlewit
    so the leftover section of lane that you're given to ride in when traffic is moving becomes a no-go when traffic stops?
    I'm seriously asking this.
    are you just supposed to stop where you are whenever the cars stop?
  • Spirit of 76
    I would keep going, but slowly enough that I could stop for a suddenly opened door. If the light is red anyway, then what's the point in rushing to the intersection?
  • spiv
    It's absurd as it sounds but yes that's technically the law. Now an experienced and safe rider should be able to negotiate their way - but at their own risk, with no liability on anyone other than themselves. I still can't believe that I've been stopping at red lights when there's no cross traffic or pedestrians!!!
  • chuzzlewit
    could you direct me to that law?
  • spiv
    I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on TV.
  • chuzzlewit
    dammit, matlock.
  • check the high rez video to see if you can see the cop's face in the side view mirror looking at you as the door was opened just a crack.
  • Spirit of 76
    Also, try to read his lips as he says, "This is for Pat Pogan!"
  • Oh and here's something from NYCDOT:  "If the road is too narrow for a bicycle and a car to travel safely side by side, cyclists have the right to ride in the middle of the travel lane."  That clearly was the case here and the biker did not heed that.
  • Gwinny
    sigh. you are truly messed up. good luck with that.
  • Bicyclists and in-line skaters must obey the rules of the road, just as vehicle drivers do.  "Riding on the right side of the road" does not mean you are supposed to ride between lanes, and yes, a parking lane is still a lane.
  • Gwinny
    Do you really think that cyclists are supposed to ride to the RIGHT of parked cars? LOL!!!!!!!!
  • I didn't say that at all. The bike rides next to the car IN THE SAME LANE unless there is no room.  Then see below.
  • jb_xo
    HOW IS HE RIDING ILLEGALLY. And yes, every driver and passenger of a vehicle is responsible for his or her surroundings and making sure to not cause accident to injury to other cars, motorists, pedestrians, and even *gasp* CYCLISTs.
  • Read above.  It's quite a simple concept.  You are not supposed to be riding between lanes.
  • Gwinny
    LOL! you are a moron. It's a bike, not a motorcycle. I believe "lane splitting" is illegal for motorcycles in NYC, but it isn't for bikes!!
  • It most certainly is illegal for bikes.  Show me where they are exempt from lane markings.  They are supposed to follow the same rules as cars except where noted.
  • Douche_McGee
    Never knew it was illegal for a bike too. Kinda stupid though.
  • Gwinny
    exactly. there is no NYC law saying that it is.
  • Gwinny
    and here is something supporting my statement about motorcycles:

    http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto/...
  • jb_xo
    It is actually illegal to door someone. it's on the times up website.
  • Well the dope wouldn't have been doored if he wasn't riding illegally.  No one seems to understand that.
  • Gwinny
    WTF makes you think he was riding illegally?? The van is stopped to the side of 42nd street, which is why the dude was opening his door (he was getting out, duh. people don't usually do that in moving traffic).
  • It is illegal to ride on the white line.  That is what I see in the video.  The traffic on the left side of the rider is STOPPED. Therefore the bike should have been stopped. Get it?
  • Gwinny
    You are seriously hallucinating and WRONG.  First of all, this document http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/do... clearly says bikes have to ride on the "right side of the roadway" which is what this guy is doing. Some bikes do take up a whole lane of traffic here, but most don't as that is really a good way to get hit by a car.

    Secondly, who the hell cares if the cars to the left are stopped? The cyclist is riding up to the red light ahead as is his right.  

    Please show me where it says ANYWHERE that riding on the "white line" is illegal. It's a solid white line, which indicates parking/stopping to the right (not a lane of moving traffic). 

    Get it??
  • So if there's stopping/parking to the right and moving traffic to the left does it seem like a safe thing to be riding on the white line?  No.  If its not legal for cars, then its not legal for bikes. Bikes are supposed to ride to the right of the road in the same lane as the cars.  From NYCDOT: "If the road is too narrow for a bicycle and a car to travel safely side by side, cyclists have the right to ride in the middle of the travel lane."   Clearly, the bicyclist in this video should have done that.
  • chuzzlewit
    lol - you think cyclists are supposed to ride along on the right side of the road while cars zoom past them, then stop wherever they are in the block when the cars all stop? i think you're on drugs 10 times.
  • It's not what I think, it's what the law says.  If he was in the driving lane where he was supposed to be, he would not have been doored.  If there is room on the right side of the driving lane to continue, then he may continue.  But if he has to cross over into the parking lane or ride on the white line, then that is not a smart move.  This video actually just proved that.
  • Bryn Palmer
    "If the road is too narrow for a bicycle and a car to travel safely side by side, cyclists have the right to ride in the middle of the travel lane." This says they have the RIGHT to, not that they legally HAVE TO, and from what I can see in the video there is more then enough room for him to travel between cars, as you can see. Try not to mix what the law says and what your opinion is.
  • sarafrass
    If he had been in the driving lane, he might not have been doored, but he may have been run over, or at least, very likely harassed by the cars who were stuck behind him. Bikes have the right to ride the shoulder to the right of the driving lane, or to "take the lane" if the shoulder (or bike lane, if there is one) is unsafe. Yes, squeezing between parked cars and a driving lane is not always ideal, but it doesn't change the fact that people exiting vehicles need to look before they open their doors into traffic, whether the traffic appears to be stopped or not.
  • chuzzlewit
    could you point me to that regulation?
    - thank you
  • Is it legal to white line?  I can see if the guy was legally riding in a lane.  But traffic was stopped and he decided to ride on the white line then gets indignant when he is doored?  Motorists don't expect to have to check for cyclists when traffic is stopped.
  • Politburo
    What a driver "expects" always seems to come up in these discussions.

    I was taught to expect everything at all times. And so I got into habits which make avoiding these situations very easy. Any lane change or turn, check the mirror and blind spot. Any time you open the door, check the mirror. Even if it's in a driveway, 3 am, dead end street, parking lot, whatever. Just get into that habit and it becomes so easy to avoid these things.
  • "Motorists don't expect to have to check for cyclists when traffic is stopped."Unless they open the doors on the move, that does seem to be the time to check, when you are not moving and opening a door....
  • You don't seem to understand the issue.  The traffic to the left of the bike and van was stopped.  Therefore the bike should not have been barreling down the street on the white line. He should have been in a driving lane, stopped.
  • WTF is with cops not-giving their names?  wish THAT was on video.  any nypd officials out there? is that legal for the cops to hide like that? WTF again.
  • O2C
    Per the NYPD Patrol Guide procedure 203-09, "'Public Contact -- General' 1. Courteously and clearly state your rank, name, shield number and command, or otherwise provide them, to anyone who requests you to do so.  Allow the time ample time to note this information."

    So they are violating NYPD procedure when they fail to give their info.  Most of the time, their badge is visible and you can get their name and number that way.  They should also be wearing their precinct number on their collar brass.

    On a slight tangent, citizens do not have to do the same for police.  NYS CPL 140.50 states that the officer may demand your info under certain circumstances, but it doesn't state that you have to provide it.  IANAL, so please read the appropriate laws and guides for yourself too.
  • chuzzlewit
    is that an old bike lane?
    there are no current bike lanes anywhere near there, right?
  • I hope you're not implying that cyclists can only ride in bike lanes, and not on streets that don't have them.
  • chuzzlewit
    nope.
  • pendejito
    Ppfffft, man, three years ago I ran into a unmarked police car that decide to pull an immediate u-turn as I was over taking it. Needless to say, I flew over the handle bars and landed on the hood. Instead of apologizing or seeing if I was ok, the blad headed Puerto Rican looking fucker, told me to "get the fuck off the road!."

    When I said, ok, I'll just take your license plate number and call the cops, this piece of shit got out and I thought I was done for, until I saw the gun on his waistband. He, "You want the police, I am the POLICE!'

    To make a long story short, he asked for my ID, threatend me with arrest, and when a crowd formed, he sped away two blocks with my ID in hand. He returned my ID, but took down my address, as if to threaten me. I got yelled and threatened again with arrest (for impeding a police officer when he was on a "hot pursuit" call).

    I was left shook and with a bent bicycle fork. I wasn't a citizen at the time, so I took my losses and moved on. But yeah, these guys are fuckers.
  • rich_can
    I would love to see someone door a cop on a bike. That person will be probably charged for assault.

    Got to love the double standard.
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