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Hudson River Park Dog Run Turning Into Canine Cage Match Arena

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The Hudson River Park dog run at Pier 40 and Leroy Street is being painted as a canine cage match in the NY Post today. The paper reports that dog owners who use the run are fighting for a separate area for the small pups to enjoy, away from the bigger dogs that are allegedly attacking them; one owner likens the scenario for the petite pooches as "going up against Muhammad Ali."

Smaller dogs are getting injured and killed in the run and "once a small dog is in a big dog's mouth, chances are you won't be able to save it. That dog will never fetch again." One member of the Dog Owners Action Committee says Dobermans and Rottweilers are using beagles and Yorkies as chew toys, and yet Community Board 2 and the Hudson River Park Trust refuse to separate them by providing a second run. The battle has been going on since at least 2007, when the Villager reported on the crowded, unsafe conditions there for smaller dogs.

Why? The fat cats are to blame, says one committee member: "The people who make the decisions about this park don't have to use a dog run because they have a town house with a back yard and a house in the country."

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  • dd7

    Ya know, it's really not that hard.  Just put up a fence, and make the smaller area for small dogs and the larger area for big dogs.  Problem solved.

  • puppers IS love!

  • ButtPlugs

    I can't stand toy breeds, its like owning a cat with 10 times the responsibility. I'd rather own a dog that can be my companion and protect me; something like Dino from the flintstones and not something that I can kick for a 40 yard feild goal. I used to own an Am Staff and he would bark back at the little dogs that show aggression which made my dog look 'vicious'.

  • boomshanka

    what new york city needs is to devote more money and land for dogs to piss and shit, and cut spending on education.

  • AScoutingLife

    There is no correlation whatsoever between a dog's size and it's temperament, and to suggest otherwise is ignorant.

  • bassoonalex

    The issues are that people with small dogs tend to carry the dog - which can cause fights because of dominance issues, not train it, ignore it in a dog run (many dog owners do this), or all of the above. You can't get away with not training a big dog - no one would tolerate a jumping Bernese mountain dog because it would knock you over - but you can with a little dog, which often de-socializes them and makes them more likely to lash out.

    Also, large breed owners are often smart enough to walk in another direction if there's a dog their pup doesn't get along with (my dog is very friendly, but there is one dog that seems to be his personal nemesis...so we switch directions if we see each other), whereas if a small dog starts growling or barking the owner picks it up and keeps walking, which only adds to the aggression.

    Yes, there are angry large dogs and perfectly sweet small dogs. But as a dog walker, I have never been snapped at by a large dog, and have been many times by a small one.

  • AScoutingLife

    Your apocryphal evidence aside, there is nothing that suggests smaller or larger breeds are generally more aggressive.  Go to the dog run and talk to small dog owners, they'll tell you big dogs are the problem.  Talk to large breed owners and they'll tell you the opposite.  Look to the owners to correct poor behavior, don't blame the breed.

  • Guest

    Large dogs tend to have owners that teach them to behave and be at balance with the pack.  Small dog owners tend to treat their dogs as if the dogs are the pack leaders, allowing behavior that large dog owners could not, thereby making the small dogs into the aggressors at the dog parks.  Balanced dogs feel this aggression and then feel the need to balance the pack by removing the dogs that throw it out of balance.  This is simply nature, nothing apocryphal about it.

  • AScoutingLife

    Yeah, see, unless you have some scientific evidence to back that up then your claim is the very definition of apocryphal.

  • Guest

    Use Google or watch Animal Planet or The Dog Whisperer.  I don't do the links thing.

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  • AScoutingLife

    Well then you might want to consider "doing the link thing" as a quick search completely contradicts your bogus claim.  From the Dog Whisperer website:

    "I deal with a lot of red zone cases, and I often hear people
    incorrectly blaming the breed. Any breed can cause trouble. The
    difference between an aggressive Chihuahua and an aggressive pit bull
    is that the bigger breeds can cause proportionately bigger damage."

    http://www.cesarsway.com/tips/...

  • Guest

    As usual with Gothamist commenters, your reading comprehension is repugnant.  Read my comment and the previous comment.  Both of us blamed the dogs' owners, not the breeds.  

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  • AScoutingLife

    So you are claiming that there is a common element amongst owners of small dogs that causes the small dogs to act more agrressively, have zero evidence to support such a claim, and are calling me out?  Got it.

  • Guest

    I don't have the time, or patience, to put you in your place. That is why I don't provide links. Dog owners are USUALLY to blame for their dogs' behavior, no matter its size. Anecdotal evidence suggests that small dog owners are MORE LIKELY to allow behavior that larger dog owners will not. Whether you believe that or not, I couldn't care less. Seems to me, you just want to talk shit no matter which way this conversation goes.

  • AScoutingLife

    So you have some bullshit theory, with no evidence to back it up.  I should just accept your word for it, and if I don't it's just because I'm trying to start an argument? 

    It's not the time or patience you lack, it's the intellect that's missing.

  • Guest

    Science is the observation of nature.  My observations, and the observations of many more, have come to the same conclusions about this.  I don't give a shit if you accept what I, and they, say or not.  It's your loss.

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  • whatidsay

    NY Post...cage match journalism at its best. On a sicker note, Michael Vick just got a $1M contract with Nike

  • roknrolla

    Gosh, I just love people so much!
    Why oh why would those with smaller breeds, realizing the potential for aggressive behavior which could put their smaller dog in danger, continue to bring their dog to a run where they know this exists?
    Reminds me of the people jaywalking from between parked cars in the middle of the street pushing their child's stroller out first and then peering out to look for oncoming traffic.
    See it every day....

  • pixiestck

    It's always owners' fault. Owners should stay close to and keep their eyes on their dogs at all times at dog runs, and not bring their dogs if the dogs are aggressive. There are aggressive dogs of all sizes, people.

  • small dogs are usually the ones with behavioral problems, not the large ones from what I've seen.

    However, I think the real problem here is the people that own the small dogs.  

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