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Gay Marriage Continues To Rile New York Religious Leaders

062611carlin.png Not everyone is happy that a large swath of New Yorkers are now given the same rights and privileges as everyone else. Now the Catholic church, which is usually totally cool about leaving people alone and letting them live their lives, is holding a grudge against Governor Cuomo and his colleagues for helping push the "ruinous legislation" along. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio who oversees a Brooklyn diocese released a statement following the passage of the bill asking "all Catholic schools to refuse any distinctions or honors bestowed upon them by the governor," and any state legislators who voted "Yes."

DiMarzio told the Daily News that the marriage equality act "is a further erosion of the real understanding of marriage. The state should not be concerned about regulation affection," which would be true if he were referring to the infamous "Hug Tax Act" of 1983. In an opinion article for the paper, DiMarzio writes that same-sex marriage is "destructive because we fail to view marriage in the context of a vocation: a calling to participate in…forming the next generation. Marriage is reduced to an empty honor." And in his statement, DiMarzio complained that proponents of the bill "have demonized people of faith…and identified them as bigots and prejudiced." Hmm, certitude in the superiority of your beliefs over others': nope, no bigotry there.

Most telling is the fact that the NYCLU and other supporters of the legislation approved of the last minute exemptions for religious organizations, that allows them to refuse to perform same-sex marriages without fear of lawsuit or reprisals by the state. NYCLU's executive director told the Times that the exemptions respect "the right of clergy, churches, and religious organizations to decide for themselves which marriages they will or will not solemnize."

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  • is that george carlan?

  • dizzy5

    Me w-u-u-v-v Hosties. Serve with mother's milk. Attention BK food wanks.

  • DiMarzio writes that same-sex marriage is "destructive because we fail
    to view marriage in the context of a vocation: a calling to participate
    in…forming the next generation. Marriage is reduced to an empty honor."  How honorable was American serial killer and necrophile, Ted Bundy's marriage, when he declared himself legally married during his sentencing for the kidnapping, rape and murder of at least 30 young women. How honorable are the thousands of Catholic Priests, ministers and other clergymen who agree to marry criminals and life sentenced child rapists in prisons around the nation, and are paid for by our tax dollars?  Does that Bible mention the sin of hypocrisy?  I know we are warned of false prophets, but truly, this is ludicrous.

  • LOL...I thought that was George Carlin!

  • sketto

    The Catholic Church as a system, helped destroy the lives of children around the world, then helped hide the criminals to rape again, then denied responsibility, then admitted responsibility while still asserting the right to police itself after demonstrating the complete inability to do just that. It's shameful, embarrassing and criminal.

    An organization like that has zero moral authority. It's lost. Gone. When you rape children and rationalize its coverup, no one cares when you condemn other things you call sins.

  • JLBrooklyn

    rj falcioni jr- Liberal also means respecting the rights of real people as opposed to respecting the word of a fictitious book of fables, so I'll take it.

  • "Hmm, certitude in the superiority of your beliefs over others': nope, no bigotry there."
    right bc the left treats everyone equally and respects everyone's right to their opinion...ha! the left hides under the guise and misunderstood "liberal" title which most people think means accepting of all ideas, a liberal thinker. but what it really means is someone who wants to do watever they want and don't want to hear anyone disagree. liberals are like spoiled brats of rich parents. probably why so many young rich kids are liberals until the wake up and start paying taxes.

  • robingee

    But... taxes are SOCIALISM!

  • Our country should revert to the true definition of marriage.  An exchange of property (women) between two consenting men (father and husband).  Or maybe we should take our cues from the bible; a union between a man and women, and another women, and another women, and another women.

  • robingee

    ..and a pizza place!

    (If I give you a cow is that cool?)

  • FU Boy

     Nah, he'd rather just have the milk.

  • evbo

    ...and leave this religious christian drivel behind.

    Fixed that for you. Oh, and wipe that dribble off your keyboard, please.

  • jfu222

    I've seen religious dribbling ... it ain't pretty.

  • evbo

    Especially when young boys are involved. Oh, those wacky religious Catholics...

  • jfu222

    A - All religions need to start paying taxes. Why am I paying for your ideas? Seriously..pay some fucking taxes you cheap land grubbing fucks.
     
     B. - Marraige is a MAN-MADE concept. Things change and people change..what happened 2000 years ago worked for then...unless you think other 2000 year old ideas should also remain in place.like you know, slavery and gender inequality.
     
    C. OVERPOPULATION - all of you religous fist pumpers (I respect all people of faith btw, but religous fist pumpers are a different group of people) .. go ahead and take a look outside. What do you see? DWINDLING RESOURCES AND OVERCROWDING IN EVERY PART OF THE GLOBE. In about 50 years or so the water/food shortages should really kick in.
     
    Homosexuality seems to be a completely logical and NATURAL solution to the global population problems we are experiencing. Almost as if your god planned it that way to maintain/decrease gobal populations for the betterment of the the earth and humans. That's a scary thought for you right?

    Love is Love, any of the "upset" religous folks are simply pissed off control freaks. None of them talk to god and have a clue as to what the real master plan is. So most of those rules are simply made up laws created to groom society. Dumb asses.

  • proudliberal1947

    Wacko world comes alive, yup, the brain dead and makers of their make believe deities and religions lost a big one THANK GOODNESS, now if California follows suit it is all over but the crying.

    These religious hate mongers have to learn their place and it is NOT to push their values on others. America is NOT a nation of religion and as soon as the brain dead christians understand that, the better.

    These babbling brain dead fools with their book of Fairy Tales and make believe Deity will Kill their child, disown their child, curse their child in the name of a make believe deity, that THEY claim in omnipotent and INCAPABLE of making a mistake, DUH?

    Unlike the religions of HATE and FEAR, the GOVERNMENT did its best to protect the religions that have this twisted, warped point of view, and no it is NOT perfect, however the attempt has been made to protect all as much as possible, unlike the fear and Hate mongering christians that want to KI:LL,KILL,KILL.

    Now, with out this distraction, maybe we can move along to some real serious stuff, like JOBS and the ECONOMY and leave this religious christian dribble behind.

  • TheOtherBob

    Just as a funny aside...the New Testament's conception of marriage supports gay marriage.  The believers at that time thought that the world was ending -- and I mean ending *tomorrow*.  And so if you look at the writings of, say, Paul, he didn't want people having sex at all -- he wanted them praying.  His view of a Christian society was people who did the work they had to do, and then retired to their homes to pray for salvation when Jesus came back as a conqueror.  He didn't want them fucking, he didn't want them playing games, he just wanted them praying.  

    But, he recognized that no one was going to join a church that demanded all the men to become eunuchs, so he said that if you had to fuck, at least get married -- so that you weren't running around fucking just anyone and everyone.  Choose one person, fuck them when you had to, and then get back to work.  Of course, the church today wants to say that marriage is about children.  Paul disagreed.  Why would you need children?  Jesus is coming back tomorrow!  Instead, the biblical view of marriage is about relieving yourself of the urges that prevent you from praying -- it's about getting your rocks off, so that you can get back to work.  

    Now, I don't agree with that view of marriage -- Jesus ain't coming back tomorrow, I'm sorry to tell you, and your partner should add more to your life than Playboy.  But if we were to apply that view -- the actual view of the actual biblical writers, rather than the view of the church -- to gay marriage, what would we get?  Yeah, we'd allow gay marriage.  Because stuffing gay people into straight marriages would simply frustrate them -- and thereby prevent them from devoting their lives to praying for Jesus's return.

    The objection, of course, is that Paul viewed gay sex as something recreational -- as just one on a buffet of possible sexual games -- and therefore said not to do it.  Because he was apparently mostly straight, he thought gay sex was something one did for kicks when straight sex got boring.  But we of course now know that he was wrong -- that while Paul might have occasionally gone for some recreational buttsex, actual gay people are not engaging in kink but rather have life-long and deeply-felt attractions to (and love for) people of the same sex.  Had Paul recognized this, I'm pretty sure he'd have been willing to allow them to get married -- anything so that they could get back to praying for Jesus's return.

  • brooklynnewyork

    God was missing for six days.
    Eventually, Michael, the archangel, found him resting on the seventh
    day.

    He inquired, "Where have
    you been?"

    God smiled deeply and
    proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what
    I've made."

    Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said,
    "What is it?"

    "It's a planet," replied
    God, and I've put life on it! I'm going to call it Earth and it's going
    to be a place to test Balance."

    "Balance?" inquired
    Michael, "I'm still confused."

    God explained, pointing
    to different parts of Earth. "For example, northern Europe will be a
    place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to
    be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people and over
    there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things.

    God continued pointing to
    different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one
    will be very cold and covered in ice."

    The Archangel , impressed
    by God's work, then pointed to a land area and said, "What's that one?"

    "That's Brooklyn , the most
    glorious place on earth. It is surrounded by rivers and an ocean,
    and has forests, hills, and plains. The people from Brooklyn are going to be
    handsome and beautiful, modest, generous, compassionate, intelligent
    and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be
    extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace and
    producers of good things."

    Michael gasped in wonder
    and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God? You said
    there would be balance..."

    God
    smiled, "Yes. Further north is Albany. Wait 'till you see the
    idiots I put there."
    =
     

  • robingee

    And then I looked behind me and there was ONE set of footprints and Jesus was like I CARRIED YOU!

  • I then I was like "Jesus, we are gay married now, you only needed to carry me across the threshold of our honeymoon suite!"

    Oh man, wait, now I am trying to remember if I carried my wife over the threshold of my honeymoon suit!  Oh man I don't know, I was pretty out of it by that point. 

    UPDATE: She doesn't remember either.

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