Video: Watch Cops Explain Why Bicyclists Shouldn't Go More Than 15 MPH In Central Park
Cyclist Greg Lowdermilk, who was hit with a $140 ticket for speeding in Central Park this morning, sent us video of his experience with the cops this morning. One cop explained, "We've had a really high increase in accidents involving bicycles."
Lowdermilk, a disabled Iraq war veteran who works for FEMA, turned on the camera attached to his bike and kept it on for over 11 minutes. There are some sound issues, so here are the main highlights: Around the 1 minute mark when you can see a cop use a radar gun to pull over a cyclist—Lowdermilk, the just-pulled over cyclist and a third cyclist complain/joke about the insanity of the situation, pointing out they were going down a hill, and "If [the speed limit is] 15 mph, then there's no point in coming here" and also ask the cops if vehicles have to abide by the 15 mph rule (they don't!). And at around 6 minutes, when the cops explain why they are going after cyclists, "We've had a really high increase in accidents involving bicycles, hitting people. Bike on bike. Bike on pedestrians. It's really been a concern for the city... We're trying to cut down on the accidents... We're trying to make sure people follow the rules."
The biggest source of confusion seems to be the 15 mph speed limit— the Central Park Conservancy's website says the suggested speed limit is 25 mph, but there are signs inside the park that do indicate a 15 mph limit...though one traveling at even 5 mph would be hard-pressed to see what the limit is. In the video, Lowdermilk makes the point to the cops that if the limit were 15 mph, then the NYPD should have been mentioning that at the meetings with cyclists, because then other cyclists will find out. To further muddle things, Councilwoman Gale Brewer (D-Upper West Side) heard from the Central Park Conservancy this afternoon, "Captain Wishnia stated to [the CPC's Doug] Blonsky that there will be no more ticketing in CP for speeding due to the fact that the speed limit for bicycles is indeed 25mph." Well, we guess we'll see in the morning!
As astounded as Lowdermilk was about the ticket, he was empathetic with the police; he told us earlier today, "There are a lot of cyclists who break the rules in Central Park but the ones who use it for training are the ones suffering. Pedestrians walk right in front of us, they let their dogs run loose without leashes, and then you have cyclists going the wrong way and that makes us all look bad. I told the cops it must really suck to have a job like yours, and one cop said this is the last thing he wants to be doing. I mean, how embarrassing being out there pointing a radar gun at cyclists?"
And one of the cyclists ticketed this morning told us, "I was one of those ticketed this morning. Police just paid me a personal visit (7:55pm) and provided a personal apology that there has been some mistake over what the officers thought was the speed limit (they thought 15mph) to that of what is outlined in Central Park’s rules which is 25mph. I am excited to report they revoked my ticket..."
The key when getting pulled over whether on a bike or in a car or whatever, is to keep your cool and be polite. I have gotten out of paying bike and car tickets by do all of this. If you freak out and most people do, you're cooked.
allen1jg
"We've had a really high increase in accidents involving bicycles."
Whew! Now that I'll be able to get to the other side the street safe and sound, I have a better chance at getting robbed, raped, or stabbed once I get across.
proudliberal1947
Find out were they hang out and Hang out there, this is going to make them real uncomfortable especially since its a place of business. Remember these CLOWNS have hair trigger tempers and will kill claiming I felt threatened.
I mean every place they go, this will send a message of FEAR that will send them over the top.
Spirit of 76
"Pedestrians walk right in front of us, they let their dogs run loose without leashes,"
Yep. You look around not just in Central Park, but everywhere. A lot of pedestrians, especially here in NYC, have a sense that as long as it's not a street full of cars, they're entitled to walk there. Doesn't matter if it's a drive in Central Park, the Brooklyn Bridge boardwalk, bike lanes on streets, the dedicated bike path on the Hudson, whatever. No serious threat to life and limb = go ahead and walk in the middle and to hell with anybody else's rights.
luke_1
The sad thing is that we could all get along if people stopped complaining about each other. The NYPD is the problem.
Spirit of 76
Maybe in this particular case, but normally, there's more than enough blame to go around to everyone. Cyclists who flout traffic laws. Pedestrians who likewise don't care about cyclists. Officers writing BS tickets instead of looking for real crimes. And then there are the drivers...
m015094
This is a NYC thing. I've lived all over the country and it wasn't until I lived here that I see people walk into the street THEN look to see if something is coming. I don't care if people jaywalk, but you're supposed to look BEFORE you cross.
jibbly
Again, this isn't about enforcement or ticket revenue or anything resembling safety issues anymore. This is purely about spite from the top brass who apparently have a massive, throbbing hard-on for cyclists.
This is ridiculous! There are people who train for races in Central Park. Heck, they hold races in Central Park during which biker's speeds can top 30MPH. What's next? Are they going to tell people training for marathons that they can't jog over a certain speed? Seriously, guys... this is nuts.
We are in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, war and struggle continue in the Middle East, thousands just lost their lives and thousands more battle radiation in Japan...yet here in good 'ol NYC, cops are spending their time pointing radar guns at guys in spandex. I'm beginning to give up on you New York :(
100
Also, police force to be smalled in years, and crime is up....and this is a focus. Sure, cops should ticket cyclist who do really bad stuff, but sending teams out to do this? What a waste.
it must really suck to have a job like yours, and one cop said this is the last thing he wants to be doing. I mean, how embarrassing being out there pointing a radar gun at cyclists?..........................u need to be proud of ur job cop....
pd2009
The “Flashing Yellow Light” bill of City Council Members Rodriguez and Gentile will be submitted at the next City Council meeting this coming Wednesday, March 23. The steps of City Hall have been reserved for a Press Conference at 1:00pm (sharp). The bill's sponsors have asked us to be there in the largest numbers we can possibly muster. If you at all can, your presence will be valuable. Arrive at 12:45pm on Wednesday so the conference can begin at 1:00 pm. The council meeting itself begins at 1:30....so it'll be short.
Our friends from the press will no doubt be there....NY Post, NY Times, the blogosphere.
pd2009
City Hall 1pm Wednesday. Press Conference for Cycling Bill to change lights to flashing yellow during non-car hours. Be There!
Bernie_Geotz_Squirrel_Luv
Why is it that car drivers get a warning or advance notice when there's going to be a ticket blitz, for ex. the cellphone ban last week but bicyclists get no such notice.
Guest
There are driving checkpoints around the city every weekend and advanced notice is never given. They are also rarely reported on so most people are unaware that they even occurred.
Gwinny
I see reports on NY1 every time there is a cellphone crackdown.
Guest
I'm talking more about the DWI and speeding crackdowns. If you remember, there were articles written about the crackdown on bicyclists who pass red lights before the policy was implemented.
That video is unwatchable, the voices can barely be heard, and when you turn the volume you get to enjoy the horrendously loud fidgeting of the camera and the clicking of the gears.
randomtransplant
This is absolute madness.
The speed limits don't apply if the police don't want them to?
Either an entire police action went down without anybody in a position of authority wondering where their cops were, what they were doing with their morning, and what was happening in the park, or, people in authority ordered cops to issue fraudulent tickets. And they DID!
No wonder the Officer made a personal apology. The implications of this seem far more intimidating than any traffic crackdown.
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