King's Comments On Islam Countered By Times Square Rally
Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, charged this weekend that American Muslims aren't helping in the fight against terrorism. "Certainly my dealings with the police in New York and FBI and others say they do not believe they get the same — they do not give the level of cooperation that they need," he said of American Muslims with law enforcement. King has planned Congressional hearings this week on radicalization within the Muslim community, but yesterday between 500 and 1,000 people gathered in Times Square to protest the hearings, which they say "demonize" Muslims. Speaker Russell Simmons said, “It’s our job to stand up and protect them because if they go, we’re next—blacks, Jews.”
The “Today I Am a Muslim Too” rally was organized by over 75 interfaith, civil liberties and nonprofit groups. Imam Shamsi Ali said, “I am a Muslim but I love this country as much as any Christian or Jew loves his country. We are here today because we love this country. We are here today because we want to see America remain the most powerful and the most beautiful country in the world.” And Rabbi Marc Schneier argued, “To single out Muslim-Americans as the source of homegrown terrorism and not examine all forms of violence motivated by extremist belief, that my friends is an injustice.”
A few blocks away, a smaller group rallied in favor of the Congressional hearings. Bill Byrne of 9/11 Hardhats said, "And we're requesting all Muslims—if you don't help us we have no other option: we have to stop immigration of all Muslims. That should be our ultimate solution." Many also protested for no Sharia law, but Byrne was fine with declaring, "God Bless America!" But it's different because his god is the right god! As for what radicalization really looks like, here's a sick video of a Tea Party-organized protest against a Muslim group raising money to fight homelessness in their neighborhood in California. If you've somehow held onto some small amount of faith in humanity, this should take care of it:
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Gothamist you need to stop demonizing good guys like Peter king! Equating the Irish freedom fighters,who have Battled the continuing British occupation of our motherland for 1500 years, with these nasty mooslime terrorists is despicable! Ireland forced the British army out of ireland in 2000. And the british gov was forced to offer an apology for the Bloody Sunday massacre and issue a financial settlement too So stop trying to lump us Irish with these vermins that want to make us all extinct Any other ethnic groups you people would like to dump on ?
No, the billions of Muslims don't believe that. Don't conflate what a few protestors in Syria did with what ALL Muslims believe and support. (They were protesting the fact that Denmark had troops in Iraq, not just over drawings)
SFNY
Can we all at least agree that the first protest sign is poorly designed?
ANGRYGOD11
Peter King is a complete tool. But, it might be possible he doesn't understand a mosque isn't like a church. A muslim can go to a mosque for prayers and seek guidance, but a catholic church tells catholics the way things are with very little leeway.
pcow
pcow
Muslim is a glorious region, their Holly Book QURAN were coming from ALLAH. Another side rest of region's holly Book are written by a pious man in the same region. So for that Muslim not attract another region people. But Muslim are also attract from another region people. But why?
This is the most one-sided article and ensuing commentary I've ever read on the Gothamist. Pete King, who is NYC's biggest advocate for terrorism dollars, is suggesting a review on the "Radicalization of American Muslims." He wants to look at the causes and how to intervene. The attempted bombing in Times Square was a Muslim, the captured student attempting to make bombs was Muslim, the shoe bomber was Muslim, the men who flew planes into PA, the Pentagon, and the WTC were Muslim. Clearly not all Muslims are radical, in fact it is a small minority, but it probably merits studying the causes. And yes, abortion clinic bombers are a problem as well but the growing problem of radical Muslims has resulted in more loss of life and resources of federal authorities.
To all the people who feel the need to bash all religious people of various faiths, I realize it is now trendy to be Atheist but many religious people (of all faiths) are doing good for the benefit of mankind, so being repectful of all religious people is just as important as advocating for Muslims.
cmdrogogov
This is the most one-sided post and ensuing drivel I've ever read on gothami-
oh wait.. no, it isn't. But it's still pretty one-sided.
(R)king is a far-right nutbar who amongst other things has directly funded terrorism himself by donating to the Irish Republican Army whilst they were active in Northern Island - but I guess it isn't terrorism if you're car-bombing for a cause you believe in, right?
The guy has publicly called for the assassination of public nationals on little other than hearsay, showing a contempt for the judicial process.
He is a loose cannon, a scumbag and living proof that you can't beat radicalization by being batshit insane yourself.
No, he's saying he wants to investigate specifically American Muslims. The 9/11 hijackers were not Americans, they were foreigners who overstayed their visas.
King is doing this because he has a belief, against evidence by police, that Muslims aren't cooperating. Never mind that the street vendor who first spotted the Times Square bomb and notified police was Muslim. Or the fact that the Lackawanna Six were caught because Muslim neighbors called the police. The Pakistanis who went overseas were caught because their parents went to the FBI with their concerns. Depending on which study you cite, 30-70% of all attempted terrorism since 9/11 has been thwarted by tips from within the Muslim community. Not bad considering Al Qaeda ordered its members to stay away from the local community and especially mosques, as they were afraid they would be turned in.
ANGRYGOD11
You conveniently forget most of the terror attacks in this country by Muslims were foreigners. They came here with orders to kill and keep their mouths shut. Nothing Peter King suggested would have stopped them.
NYC_GUY99
They were here for an extended period of time and in some cases studying in our universities before doing this. One was even an American of european descent who want to Afganistan to fight against his country.
It is a study. I am for the study of why any religion which creates radicals. He is not suggesting internment camps so let's keep things in perspective.
ANGRYGOD11
Most foreign terrorists came on student visas, so there should be no surprise they enrolled and went to classes as thats what sleeper agents do for years, until is time to attack. They will will not call attention to themselves by making speeches in the streets or mosques. Thats what morons like Peter King don't understand.
Jamie_McDonald
I can very easily tell you why religions create radicals. It is because what religions say to their adherents is: "there is one true way to salvation/eternal life/paradise/whatever, it is ours, and everyone else is wrong, for which they will be punished eternally." If you truly believe this, isn't it incumbent on you to make sure that everyone else believes the same way whether they want to or not?
angry_pickle
There is a difference between "there is one true way to XYZ, it is ours, and everyone else is wrong but that is their problem" and "there is one true way to XYZ, it is ours, and everyone else who is wrong should be butchered".
Jamie_McDonald
Respect all religious people? You want us to respect the Westboro Baptist Church, Pat Robertson, Scientologists, and Pope Benedict? Seriously?
NYC_GUY99
CBS News:
In one instance, he called Mother Teresa a "fanatical, Albanian dwarf."
"Lying, thieving Albanian dwarf," Hitchens told Kroft. "That was, I admit, an exercise in seeing how far I could go."
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Hitchens is a sensationalist not a factual writer. Do you write dissertations using citations for the national enquirer? Next time opt for better sources.
You forgot your problem with Ghandi...
Jamie_McDonald
That in no way undermines his criticisms of her, which are all quite factual, whether you like it or not.
In respect to Gandhi, I'm not sure what your point is. You said that it's important to be respectful of ALL religious people, which I believe would include the people that I listed (as well as, as for that matter, Osama bin Laden et al.). I have no idea what Gandhi has to do with that, unless your point is that being religious automatically makes you Gandhi-like.
NYC_GUY99
You are taking a small segment of a broad category of people and therefore stating that the whole spectrum is bad. You are supporting protecting Muslims from that type of stereotype but have no problem doing that to everyone else. There are plenty of christians helping people in the third world and NYC everyday, is it not unreasonable to respect their beliefs? Mother Teresa, Ghandi, and the Dali Lama, are not people to be revered? If that is not a role model for humanity, than I do not know what is.
Jamie_McDonald
I am most certainly not protecting Muslims from anything; I consider Islam to be even viler than most religions, though not by far. Nor do your examples succeed; the Dalai Lama is, frankly, not very bright and does little but spout platitudes (not that much should be expected of him, seeing how he was just some little kid chosen at random); as for Mother Teresa, I'd suggest you read Christopher Hitchens' book about her vile legacy.
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