The PATH goes between NYC and NJ and isn't Federal.

The PATH goes between NYC and NJ and isn't Federal.

Hell no! There are wide swaths of Queens and Brooklyn that still don't have subway service. Make them the priority, not Secaucus!

I think this once again shows how ignorant SUV chauffeured Christie is to mass Transit. ARC's train station across the street from the existing Penn would be much closer to Penn than the 7 train. But when you have a taxpayer funded driver and a police escort through heavy traffic, I suppose it doesn't really matter where the train actually goes just as long as it doesn't interfere with your agenda.

I think he's saying that the planned extension of the 7 train will take it through Penn Station.

WTF Secaucus? Who the hell goes there.. even people in NJ do not go there..

It's not meant for origin/destination traffic from Secaucus (although there is a fair bit of it since the station opened); it runs to Secaucus because every train line in Northern New Jersey runs through Secaucus. That being said, there are many ridiculous aspects to the project that would fill far more than a Gothamist comment box.

Yes and maybe more. This is what has to happen in Washington and soon if we are to survive fiscally. There are many worthy programs in government today that are expensive and take the life blood out of the economy. Sadly the time has come that we no longer can afford them.

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Are Queens residents going to start sabotaging random subways in other boroughs until the MTA builds something in Queens? That is the sense I'm getting from some of these comments on proposals to expand the system elsewhere.

This is political nonsense - why doesn't the Gov Christie just update the PATH system which still looks like 1970 instead of posturing over some grand scheme that he could slap his name on.

Stop perpetuating the myth that this is a realistic possibility. There isn't a chance in hell that this would happen. The MTA has no interest in extending the subway into New Jersey. The only way this would happen is if Bloomberg and the West Side Yards developers paid for it out of their own pockets. If the MTA is ever going to expand the subway system, they'll first and foremost extend the N train to La Guardia. Need I remind you that Bloomberg took the city's funds originally dedicated to that project away and switched them to the #7 train extension so that his rich real estate developer buddies could benefit from the newly accessible neighborhood. What else could and should the MTA do before extending the 7 train to NJ? How about connecting Staten Island and Brooklyn with a subway tunnel, something that was promised over a century ago. Or you could extend any one of four subway lines in Queens east to bring subway service to areas of the city that have never had it but sorely need it.

This is the dumbest idea ever. ARC was supposed to create a single seat ride for NJ commuters in Northern Jersey heading into midtown. Extending the subway would require NJ Transit passengers to get off the train and onto a subway to get into the city. Then once in the city, they'd probably have to switch to another subway line unless they work along the 42nd Street corridor. That's a three seat ride! Oh, wait a minute... we already have that. It's called NJ Trasnit to Path to the NYC Subway. And guess what, the federal DOT will not give one dime to a project linking NJ and NYC with a subway line. Their money was supposed to be used for commuter and high speed rail only. So NJ would probably wind up having to pay more for this bone headed idea then the state would have for ARC.

Thanks a lot Governor Crispy Cream. I hope your wife has the energy to walk up stairs because their wouldn't be an escalator on the #7 line for her. At least she could have traveled up out of the ARC Penn Station expansion on a fast escalator.

By Penn Station he means Grand Central, right? Details, details. Whatever. It's only a six billion dollar project, or something like that.

make it happen. next stop, weehawken!

Wouldn't this make the MTA a Federal Agency, since it would then be in multiple states?

And I'm sure the issue of funding the trains once it's operational wouldn't be a complete disaster.

The MTA already runs Metro North trains through New Jersey and Connecticut thanks to interstate agreements that do not involve the feds. The states share the costs.

Why make it federal? Do you really want someone from Utah or Kansas have control over the MTA? Keep it local!

But then his wife would have to climb a bunch of stairs to get out!