"What follows is the video Rachel Maddow doesn’t want you to see. In it you will find fundraising URLs spouted by guests and even by hosts. You’ll see on-air soliciations for everything from campaign volunteers to cold, hard cash. Presiding over it all: Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, and--yes--Rachel Maddow. We report, you decide:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0

http://johnnydollar.us/files/101107fhwir.php

of course Fox News is a political show. so what?

If MSNBC has a policy that doesn't allow donations,then that's the policy, and Olbermann should have followed it.

I can't believe he risked his job over this. He must have been aware of the policy.

I like her show, but I did not like her comment. Maybe someone at Fox said something about it that pissed her of, but you can't respond to a problem inside your company with a 5 minute montage of how Faux News is worst. Everyone knows that!

Ever since the news broke on Friday, people have been speculating about any ulterior motives, either personal or new company being run by republicans. It's a difficult position because I'm sure she wants to keep her job, but she could had made the commentary about journalist giving donations to political parties. It's not like it's hard to tell a commentator political side when they run an opinion show anyway (it is not news).

Bottom line is that Olbermann broke company rules and he had to be reprimanded, but the biggest problem here is that he did not disclose it to his viewers right away.

Personally, I don't think it's that bad to have a network counterpoint to Fox propaganda machine, though it would be good for MSNBC to have a conservative with an evening opinion show as well.

"But all the other kids are doing it"= poor excuse. Fox's policies or lack of policies and how they enforce them has nothing to do with MSNBC.

Keith never had any conservatives to debate with on his show. Maddow has some but all she does is ask them questions that are phrased along the lines of "how long have you been beating your wife".

lol

What little time life gives me to sit down and

engage (watch) TV ,I do like Rachel & Keith however

I am a bit sad that Rachel & Chris Matthews did not criticize their boss MSNBC policy on this issue ,I guess they wish to stay onboard when MSNBC is bought out by Comcast, ahhh! ....fat chance.

I've been following Rachel Maddow since she debuted on Air America years ago.

The woman is brilliant. My only beef with her is she was always too nice to the authoritarian corporatist sheeple who she opposed - she needed Randi Rhodes's anger.

Otherwise, she has more intellect in a stupor than all the Fox pundits on their best days combined. She reports facts and extrapolates arguments from those facts. And while I'm not big on name-calling, I gotta channel SP on this one and say that, yes, if you think she's just the inverse of a Fox pundit you are indeed a fuckin idiot.

The fact that all my authoritarian peeps have to say about her is "ha ha she's a man!" proves my point. She's a Rhodes Scholar. If you actually engaged in a debate with her, it would end with you both having the same number of testicles.

If you actually think she is an objective analysis, you're a . . . Actually, I'm not going to say it, cause someone from some side needs to talk. I'll just say that I hope in your praise of Maddow, you are not seriously claiming she is an objective, even handed analyst who sees the good and bad on all sides of issues.

Also is she trying to say that because Fox is OK with political donations from their anchors that it somehow makes what Olbermann did less bad? Is she using Fox's journalistic ethics as a comparison for their own? Maddow, clearly has no shame.

This is where the disconnect. Any one here knows that if you break your company's policy, you know it would be pretty ballsy to talk about the policy of your company's competitor, i.e. realize you're setting up your boss to say, "Great. Then you can go work for them."

I like the cut of your jib, David.

TV is not the place to get real news. Especially MSNBC or FOXNEWS. Maddow is wrong. They are mirror images of each other. If that is where you get all of your news, you either don't care or are just lazy and uninformed.

TV is not the place to get real news.

Yep, this is like 95% true. (Personally I'd make the exception for Frontline, which is often head and shoulders above anything else I've seen, ever.) The 24hr news channels suck pretty hard.

Yep. It's all just infotainment and political theater masquerading as news. I can't stand this chick or Olbermann, or Fox.

So Olberman broke MSNBC policy, so they suspended him. Fox employees can break whatever MSNBC policies they want, as they're not employed by MSNBC, but when fox employees start breaking Fox policies, then they can be disciplined, until then, Fox and its employees have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Olberman being suspended.

Actually, people have documented Fox hosts breaking company policy too. Apparently with no consequences.

In any case, he broke policy and is getting a slap on the wrist. I doubt very much that they would fire one of their biggest star.

Different companies, still not really an issue. MSNBC decided upon their punishment. They are their own corporation.

Man, I stopped watching cable news and reading editorials after the clusterfuck of the 08 election. Looks like it's the same old same old. You've got to realize that the only change will come is from your own bloody hands like how George Washington did it. All this clucking leads to nothing. 24 hour political news made me apathetic to our political system.

i stopped watching the news networks as soon as CNN stopped airing news 24/7 and started having hosts discuss their opinion and present it as fact under the guise of news.

all of this media driven politics is opium for the masses, just like the catholic church before it.

Yay, by watching pundits i can feel like i have a part of the system, when in actuality, my vote and opinion counts for jack shit on a nationwide scale. the electoral college system does not represent the will of the majority, and there are times when electoral representatives have voted against the collected votes of the poeple.

the spinzones created by all of the cable news networks have destroyed what little credibility and integrity elected officials had left. When you are a career politician, and your career and financial wellbeing depends on winning an election, you will never run on your principles and beliefs, you will run on what keeps you elected.



2 party system is a flaming wreck of a clusterfuck, and if you don't realize that none of the crap you see on the pundit shows is anything other than well packaged mud slinging designed to destroy or promote specifc targets of murdoch, koch brothers, etc. etc., than your 5th grade education is underserving you, and you are being manipulated.

enjoy the political fantasy football game, it's destroying our country, right down to it's crumbling infrastructure.

-the jaded guy in the corner that just wants equal access to healthcare, proper and well planned disaster management, and highway bridges to not crumble into rivers.

I agree. The issues are mutually exclusive.Definitely a strange jumping point to tear into Fox. I guess she can turn anything into Fox bashing.

Which brings up another point. I don't watch Fox. Her viewers don't watch Fox. What the heck does Fox have to do with discussing political issues? I bet if Fox went away, she'd have nothing to rant on about.