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Brooklyn Fare Chef Denies Going "Soup Nazi" on Note Taker

102710ramirez.jpg Chef Cesar Ramirez runs a tight ship at his lauded Chef's Table at the Brooklyn Fare grocery store in downtown Brooklyn. Customers pay $135 each for a no-substitutions 20 course menu served at a stainless steel counter facing the open kitchen. Photography is verboten, as is cell phone use and note-taking. Dem's the rules requests! But scofflaw writer Joshua David Stein recently flouted rule #3 during his wife's birthday dinner, and was shocked when the bull he messed with (Ramirez) gave him the horns (a tongue-lashing that made his wife cry on her birthday).

In an amusing account of the experience in the NY Press, Stein says Ramirez came up to him after the first course and "leaned in so close I could see every pore in [his] shaved head." The chef reportedly told Stein, "I don't know where you fucking cook, but you'll never replicate this. I've been watching you disrespect my kitchen all night. You'll never be able to do what I do...Why are you taking notes? That's some sneaky shit." Stein apologized profusely, and though Ramirez declined to force him out of his kitchen, the rest of the meal was irreparably ruined.

Stein says his notes were intended for his eyes only, to remember the details of his special meal. In his open letter to Chef Ramirez, he writes, "Notes—discretely taken—disturb no one. For the mnemonically challenged among us, they are a necessary record of what it was exactly that we spent $300 on. Surely you, young and informal, can understand this impulse... More gallingly, you seem to assume the only reason a patron might take notes is to gank your recipes. What a hubristic and absurd position! You’re not Golem, we are not hobbits, two stars is not The Ring."

We spoke with Chef Ramirez today, and he insists the whole thing is utter bullshit. He says he doesn't remember Stein coming in, has no recollection of yelling at any customer, and insists he doesn't have rules, merely "requests." Here's his side of the story, verbatim:

I think it's very absurd. I have never sworn at my customers ever. I am very respectful of my customers. This story is totally untrue. I never saw his wife cry. I don't even understand who this person is. [Ed.: Stein is Eater National's Senior Editor.] That's totally false. I can't even comprehend how he would write something like that. Listen, I have a track record. I'm not perfect. But 98-99 percent of my customers leave happy. So if he wants to write nasty things because I get good publicity, that's his business.

I used to let people take photographs and do whatever they wanted but the flashes bother people. So I said, you know what, I'm not going to do that anymore. But I have never talked to a customer like that. This is a democracy, so he can write this. A lot of people take notes and at the end of the day I have requests because people ask me over and over what that is and what this is and I cant concentrate. I have 20 courses to cook. Why can't people come in here and have a good time, enjoy their wine? I'm sorry if one person is ticked off about that but I swear to you I never swore at a customer ever.

And there are no rules. I call them requests, not rules. I'm cooking and people are asking me questions. It's difficult to concentrate. I've got 20 things I have to cook, and I can't give everyone my attention. I used to let people do everything. Photography, notes, whatever. But people walk in here sometimes and think they can do whatever they want. You are walking into my kitchen; I am opening my arms to you. It's not like a dining room. This is very intimate. You walk into my kitchen, so you cannot just come in here and do whatever you want. I remember working in other restaurants where customers get out of hand. Not here. It's just 18 seats; you're in front of me and I'm in front of you. But some people it's not good enough for them.

I've never seen a person cry here. It's totally false! I'm human, I make mistakes, but I do not talk to people like that. It doesn't bother me because I didn't do nothing. People are going to write whatever they want. I know one thing: I make my customer happy.

[Via Eater]

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  • Neverhaditsogood

    Stein? You're going to look funny trying to eat corn on the cob without no teeth.

  • matty

    Must be an enviable position to be in where you can decide to destroy a business - a business that this guy sweats and toils for - just because you were minorly inconvenienced. Like they say, there's too sides to every story. Further, I've gone to many restaurants in my life and never once have I managed to piss off the Chef. So I think the guilty party lies with this Stein person, whomever he is.

  • jaycjay

    "whomever he is"

    A person who read on the menu before the mean that notes were not to be taken, decided that in spite of that having been made clear up front he was going take notes, and then later called someone else "narcissistic".

  • jaycjay

    "before the meal", not the mean.

  • matty

    *two

  • anotherview

    stainless steal

    Does mean we can steal the counter?

    Stainless Steel

  • hsilman

    Sounds like a stainless 'steal' of a deal to eat there ;)

  • famdoc

    My meals at Brooklyn Fare were the best meals I had all year.

    Cesar is a perfectionist and it shows. But he was never anything but gracious and polite with me and my fellow diners. I have gone with groups of 10-12 people, people with all levels of culinary sophistication. Some have asked some pretty strange questions, questions that may be considered stupid or personal. Cesar answered all questions with respect and tact. His meals last four hours or more. They are a unique experience among New York restaurants.

    There are two sides to every story. I have read Mr. Stein's side of the story (this story appeared on eater this morning...what do you bloggers do, troll other sites looking for "original" content?) and am glad you have presented Cesar's side of the story. Mr. Stein volunteers that he was taking notes "under the counter"

    Certainly, Cesar might have saw Mr. Stein's activity as covert or secretive and been offended. Mr. Stein describes a conciliatory gesture by Cesar later in the meal. Not satisfied with that gesture, Mr. Stein has composed this inflammatory screed. It is Mr. Stein's wife whom I feel most sorry for. Apparently, Mr. Stein did not feel empathetic enough for her tears to leave the restaurant...either temporarily, until she felt better, or permanently.

    In this case, I believe Ramirez.

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