Hmm "its not the breed its the owner" Sounds like "guns dont kill people...people kill people" A gun by its nature it designed to kill. Likewise pit bulls have historically been used since Roman times for attack....just like sheepdogs are historically designed for herding. You need a license for a car, u need a license for a gun because not having one can create a loss of life. Naive people believing the "its not the breed" line should see what happens to people with apes and tigers as pets.

I think that this is tragic and shouldn't have happened, but the older gentleman should have left the menu in the mailbox and the sign should have been written in his language so that he could understand it. The owner of the dogs can get signs written in certain languages and then there will be no more problems. This gentleman should have been told not to enter other peoples yards to leave the menus. The dogs were only protecting their property, they are not to blame.

MMmmmm lets see. An owner has met the legal requirement with posted signs in that dying language called english on the property. A man who has been in this country for 26 YEARS ~ goes onto the property and ges mauled and he main focal point is that the dogs were pit bulls lmao! In 26 years one could have maastered basic english. If one is a delivery person at least recognize signs! In days gone by people who came to this country wanted to be "Americanized". The first sep in that direction was learning english. Having a multi cultured society doesn't work if we cannot understand each other.

I feel so bad for the guy, very sad.... but youre right...everyone should learn english. If we lived in France we'd be forced to learn French, If in Russia we'd learn Russian.

I wish this man a speedy recovery. The restaurateur should not have been trespassing. The pit bulls nor the land owner are at fault. I think pit bulls are vicious animals and should not be kept as a family dog. However, they were locked up and the owner posted signs all over her front gate. There's not much more she could have done.

I wrote a little something about this, and I think it's important to educate people who blame the dog owner, or pit bulls at large. All dogs are territorial. It could have been 4 Jack Russell Terriers, the breed of dog that so many people love from the show Frasier -- and I have no doubt they would have attacked too as a gang. People have a misconception about "Eddie" from Frasier, but Jack Russell's can be some of nastiest, most vicious dogs in a fight. Pit Bull's get too much of the blame; the point is most likely any dog breed would have attacked. If the owner had 3 German Shepherd's, I'm not sure the outcome would be any different.

My sympathies with all parties during this time.

Deeanna Harrington

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So a visually imapaired person or a kid who can't read yet had fair warning and deserves to be attacked, too? A sign from a hardware store is an insufficiant warning for a deadly weapon that fires off without the control of a human behind it. These dogs are worse than guns.

It's no surprise that aggesive people own these notoriously violent and aggresive dogs. Dog like owner, every time. Time to follow suit like every other resaonable community around the world and put an end to these killing machines.

Forget the menus for just a minute & in their place imagine a kid selling something door to door, or raising money for school. Their parents trusted them to walk a few blocks as a group. They're hyped up, not paying attention, horsing around & they enter the gates. Dogs mangle them. Oops.

I can imagine having a dog trained to attack an uninvited/unattended intruder in your home, but they shouldn't be trained to attack on a residential, city property. It's too risky.

Hey, let's make lemonade out of these lemons - let's get a good, vivid snapshot of the delivery guy post-mauling, and send a copy to every restaurant that litters our vestibules with those fucking menus every week.

Underneath the picture, we'll simply put, "You're next."

And then, no more menus and no more damaged menu delivery guys. Everybody wins.

Aggression and territoriality are not breed-specific, but those characteristics can be heightened by selective breeding and owner treatment. I know a lot of pits I love, and a lot of poodles I wouldn't go near. As much as I hate the menu guys, he did enter a marked property, and had warning. What if he tried to stuff a menu into their electrical service. marked "High Voltage", thinking it was a mailbox, or ignored "Open Manhole" or "Danger - Unstable Structure" signs? Language is no excuse. I've been all over, and if I see a sign that looks ominous, even if I don't understand the full meaning, I don't tread further.

a voice of sanity and reason. thank you.

Exactly - you don't exactly need a Masters degree in English as a foreign language to understand a sign featuring a dog and some exclamation points at the perimeter of a property.

Incidentally, I have absolutely no formal education in Spanish whatsoever, but I know what "Peligroso" and "Cuidado" means. I also know what "Achtung" in German means.

It shouldn't take 26 years for a non-English speaking person to work out the equivalent English words.

An hour later, those dogs were hungry again.

The problem is the wrong people have these dogs and have no idea how to handle or train them. I'm an avid dog lover with two myself and when i see a pitbull coming I will walk to the other side of the street with my dog. I don't trust them or the idiot that's attached to it.

Lot of pitbull hate up in here.

They were not bred for generations to be attack dogs. they were bred to be game, i.e. take a licking and get back up and keep going. why? because they were used for bull baiting (traditionally why a bull used to have a ring in it's nose).

all the human agression was bred out of them for centuries because when they attacked one of the handlers when he was breaking them from the ring, they would be "culled" on the spot. only relatively recently has human aggression been brought back through breeding and willful ignorance.

The Little rascal's dog was a pittie, it was the classic american family dog forever, and they are sweet animals if raised right.

You can pooh-pooh that statement all you want, but you're full of shit. If you raise the dog correctly and it knows where it stands in the pack order, then everything is fine. This is where the difficulties lie. they are willful, energetic, and very smart. You have to be on top of your game to train one correctly. I don't think just anyone should be able to have them, but to suggest they all be culled is asinine. They are the most loving and loyal dogs you could ever care to own, and they will go to the mat for you. My dog (RIP) chased off a bear and saved me from becoming a pile of bear poo in the maine woods. Never did anything but lick and love humans, because i had him under control. (not so gret around other dogs, but he was always leashed, or on my property so that wasn't really an issue.

You can't blame the dog. You have to blame the owners for not controlling the dog.

Most people are too deluded to realize that in their natural state, animals are enlightened beings. These dogs were acting on their learned behavior and have been bred to kill. That isn't their fault, it's ours. If the police are going to euthanize the dogs, they should euthanize the owner as well.

i don't understand why she didn't restrain the dogs instead of the police with no tranquilizers. This probably caused the poor dog's death. Damn, People suck

of course you dont understand. you're mind is too warped and biased to see something as simlpe as an animal attacking a person. the only way you would understand is if the human were killed by the dog.

You see? I told you so. Look at one of the replies to [33] above where he says the dogs' owner should be "put down" for leaving them outside. This sociopathic psycho doesn't care one bit about humans.