Too bad he had to lose his life when all he had to do was pull over. So stupid.

Question is , ( And I'm one of them Cop Haters) Why did he resist when the Officer tried to pull him over ? I'm guessing because It's illegal to operate an ATV on the street . Due to the fact most of them do not come equipped with Side View Mirrors and this guy probably knew that and wasn't trying to hear it . As for why the Cop eventually shot him, The dumbass resisted, ran away , then got cornered, and tried to fight his way out . I can't blame the Cop this time , He employed the use of his mace, and the Billy-Club to stop this guy . You reach for a cops piece they will shoot you !

or how about you just realize that your wrong about everything regarding pursuits. additionally, you obviously didnt read the story as a westchester cop was involved, so bringing up the nypd's pursuit policy is irrelevant as it doesnt pertain to this officer. nypd policy, is exactly that, an organizational policy, not a state law.

you said "Second the cop who thought that this warranted such extreme measures...with no backup seems really over the top and stupid."

how is the cop supposed to know why this a-hole is running? is the cop a mind reader? for all the cop knew, he just stole the atv, or he was wanted for murder, or he was a prison escapee, or a serial killer looking for his next victim. the bottom line is there was a reason this guy was running, and no matter how small the reason was in reality, this cop has every reason to treat this situation as a "worst case scenario" for his own safety.

"Seeing how this stupid cop was so hell bent on catching this guy I'm sure he was ready to kick the stupid perp's ass and it led to a stupid death."

wow, thats some great logic you use. god forbid we have cops who want to catch bad guys. from now on when someone commits a crime, the cops are stupid if they try to catch them. i hope the cops in your neighborhood adopt your philosophy of policing, however in my neighborhood, im just fine with them being "stupid" and actually trying to apprehend criminals.

and next time maybe the stupid perp wont try to take a cops weapon from them. good riddance i say. may this dead guy rot in hell, and i hope his family suffers. just like the victims of his 30 something previous arrests did. and to the "stupid" officer, thanks for doing your job and actually trying to keep the streets safe for the rest of us.

Yes officer, I'm sorry and I won't do it again.

There's a lot of stupidity to go around in this case.

First the guy who thought that driving a ATV from Connecticut to Harlem was a good idea, instead of just renting a U-Haul trailer. Then not pulling over for the cop and trying to escape on foot is stupid.

Second the cop who thought that this warranted such extreme measures. Chasing him beyond his jurisdiction, then on foot, after the guy ditched the ATV, with no backup seems really over the top and stupid.

I think it's common knowledge that if you make a cop chase you they're going to kick your ass when you get caught. Seeing how this stupid cop was so hell bent on catching this guy I'm sure he was ready to kick the stupid perp's ass and it led to a stupid death.

I guess this is what happens when stupid meets stupid.

About the police chase laws, I don't know what it officially says in their manual but I can tell you when the unofficial "No Police Chase" unwritten rule started. In 1993 I lived in Washington Heights, there were many motorcycles in the area and police chasing them was very common. One night a very well known motorcycle rider in the neighborhood was killed by the police in one of these chases. Many of the neighborhood's teens started rioting and in the midst of all that I guy I knew from George Washington H.S. , we called him Jay, threw a molotov cocktail at a firetruck stopped at a light. As a result of that uproar police officers were told not to get involved in chases unless it was absolutely necessary.

Here's the story about the molotov firebombing here;

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/07/11/nyregion/officials-move-to-quell-washington-hts-unrest.html or

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/09/nyregion/suspect-in-firebombing-arrested-after-manhunt-attack-on-firetruck.html

Man, growing up in Washington Heights was crazy!

or maybe the "no chase" rule was just for motorcycles.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:3QQUBtIdHZ0J:www.34precinct.org/34th%2520Precinct%2520Community%2520Council%2520Minutes%2520Apr%252029%25202009.pdf+%2234+precinct%22+not+to+chase&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESihux0m0liC4eY4kPKMElBUwlryHNVCfrXFSTIs5G4W8w4hRkPT8sEhFLmNhObMZKkXkpuxoZetqaEFvMM3s7kygaIAntF0IhHi6s-Hm06rdWDVmAPWlbCfPgu4LKGxSkFhjVBd&sig=AHIEtbTeasQnJlnvtVYKpkst_Uj09rFwHQ

or how about you just realize that your wrong about everything regarding pursuits. additionally, you obviously didnt read the story as a westchester cop was involved, so bringing up the nypd's pursuit policy is irrelevant as it doesnt pertain to this officer. nypd policy, is exactly that, an organizational policy, not a state law.

you said "Second the cop who thought that this warranted such extreme measures...with no backup seems really over the top and stupid."

how is the cop supposed to know why this a-hole is running? is the cop a mind reader? for all the cop knew, he just stole the atv, or he was wanted for murder, or he was a prison escapee, or a serial killer looking for his next victim. the bottom line is there was a reason this guy was running, and no matter how small the reason was in reality, this cop has every reason to treat this situation as a "worst case scenario" for his own safety.

"Seeing how this stupid cop was so hell bent on catching this guy I'm sure he was ready to kick the stupid perp's ass and it led to a stupid death."

wow, thats some great logic you use. god forbid we have cops who want to catch bad guys. from now on when someone commits a crime, the cops are stupid if they try to catch them. i hope the cops in your neighborhood adopt your philosophy of policing, however in my neighborhood, im just fine with them being "stupid" and actually trying to apprehend criminals.

and next time maybe the stupid perp wont try to take a cops weapon from them. good riddance i say. may this dead guy rot in hell, and i hope his family suffers. just like the victims of his 30 something previous arrests did. and to the "stupid" officer, thanks for doing your job and actually trying to keep the streets safe for the rest of us.

An absolute no pursuit policy is stupid. That would mean that you just flee, and you'd get away. The NYPD doesn't have a "no pursuit" policy" nor does it have a "no pursuit" in regards to motorcycles. Those would both defy logic of being in the job of enforcing the law.

That's incorrect, you do have to register them. You get a registration that looks exactly like the one you'd get for a car and a tiny plate too! But law enforcement everywhere has really been cracking down hard, and they can and do impound them with impunity whether you're cruising through the Bronx or on an illegal trail in the middle of nowhere upstate. This guy was just a moron, plain and simple thinking he could ride it home.

That one looks like a Yamaha Warrior, crazy fast racing quad meant for the track rather than the trails.

I don't give a s**t what the laws are. This guy was an assh**e, and he basically precipitated his own early end. What an idiot. Buy an ATV in CT and ride it to NYC, flee a cop, fight him, and catch a bullet. What a complete, major friggin' retard. I'm sure he had an illustrious life, filled with stunning accomplishments. Darwin at work...again.

What are the odds that this guy (the victim) has some outstanding warrants for some other pretty significant prior crimes? I find it hard to believe he would put up such resistance simply to avoid getting some kind of traffic violation.

i have some SHOCKING breaking news from ABC in regards to this story.

our poor "victim" has been arrested over 30 times and has done 5 stints in prison.

I'm guessing he was afraid that his brand new ATV would be impounded, since it was an unregistered motor vehicle being operated on public highways. ATVs can't be registered because they lack all the safety features motorcycles have and also because they can't pass emissions requirements for on-road use.

By the time the actual resistance began, he'd already abandoned the ATV and run away. Whether it would be impounded was no longer in doubt.

Just what I was gonna say...

NYC cops are not allowed to chase in vehicles. Don't think that applies to Westchester police. Wow... complete senseless! Talk about ruff-riding!

NYPD are allowed to chase, they just don't do it as often, and its not broadcast all over tv, and doesn't last hours, or involve the entire police department like california and florida.

"its not broadcast all over tv, and doesn't last hours, or involve the entire police department like california and florida"

In fact, NYPD policy specifically forbids the LAPD-style "caravan" behind the primary pursuit vehicle. Only one secondary vehicle should be involved along with the primary, with one supervisory vehicle also allowed in proximity.

Everyone else is supposed to stay off the air and alert and aware of the progress of the pursuit, basically keeping out of the way unless directed by the precinct patrol supervisor to respond to a strategic location to assist in apprehension.

Ofcourse they do it, but they are "not" allowed to, check your sources.

Can I use jaycjay and ktinnyc as my sources? What about yours?

BTW from gothamist.com/map/

Vehicle Pursuit | Bloomingdale Rd & Woodrow Rd Staten Island, NY | 10/13/2010 2:06 p.m.