A word of warning in NJ: the Clifton Commons on Rt 3 is Honda Thief Central. I've heard cops say (on more than one occasion) that dozens of attempted thefts take place there every day. I went to a movie once, came out and someone had tried to drill the door lock right off my Civic. They must have been scared off by something.

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Hondas have always been super popular to steal. My first new used car was a cute little accord. Got stolen from the Queens center mall parking lot - the part that's now a mall. That was back in 92 I think and the car was an 82. They found it under the BQE about a week later stripped down to nothing. I got a cheap '80 Malibu after that that was built like tank and no one wanted to steal it. Now that was an awesome car.

uh, Civics have always been the most frequently stolen car, this isn't news.

also, people steal older cars because 99% of new cars are much more difficult to steal due to electronic interlocks of various sorts. you can't just hotwire a 2007 Benz like you can a 2000 Civic.

Well, you actually can't "just hotwire" a 2000 Civic, or any other car new enough to have electronic control of powertrain components. Hotwiring engages the starter, so the engine would turn over but there'd be no fuel mixture getting to the engine so it still wouldn't start.

But your point is valid; the older cars are easier to steal by breaking open the steering column with a slide hammer or similar tool, and turning the ignition switch with a screwdriver.

Newer cars with RFID chips in the key (or fob in the case of keyless systems) were a big deterrent for a while... but now there are devices that can in many cases read the onboard RFID so that it can be cloned onto a key. That takes a lot longer, but given enough time most cars can still be stolen. And there's an easier way on some models: an override algorithm that with the VIN and access to the manufacturer's database will allow the car to be started through a specific sequence of activating various controls.

Of, of course, the technique that will let you take almost any vehicle: a tow truck or a flat bed truck with a winch and cable.

If you want to go all out in that category, something like this:

http://www.towx.com/Lift_and_Tow_Z_Series_Sneaker_Unit_p/lt-z.htm

But, he/she started his comment with a condescending, "uh" - so he/she must be right! You don't take that kind of attitude unless you're sure of what you're saying!

uh... right?

It has nothing to do with rice, or "pigging"(?), or the new car market.

Thieves who steal cars are much better off getting them chopped, because the market is much larger. Very few black or gray market outfits take in-tact cars and resell them. Most chop them up and sell them for parts.

So, logically, the largest used parts markets are for vehicles that are A) common and B) last a long time and in most need of new parts.

Perhaps because fewer new cars are being sold there's an increased demand for parts for older cars.

People steal '91 Camrys? '94 Accords?

Is this like a 'pigging' thing?

Its because Civics are easy to 'Rice Up'.

It's because the parts are worth a lot of money.

I once had to buy a car in southern California. I wanted a small used Japanese sedan like a Civic or a Corolla. Do you think I could find one that wasn't riced out? Nope. I wound up finally finding one in Michigan where my mother lived. And I don't feel bad for saying riced out because it's mostly young Asian men who have a bizarre obsession with making nice little cars into fugly pieces of crap. (They also refer to it that way themselves, or at least they did in California.) I assume the motivation there is the same as middle-aged men who buy fancy sports cars i.e. to prove they have a tiny penis.

Look out, Kojak. Somebody like Spirit or some other liberal punk might call you a racist for that remark. I, on the other hand, believe it to be a damn funny remark because it's true.