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New York's White People Like Arizona's Immigration Law

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New Yorkers of all kinds have been protesting Arizona's new immigration law pretty much since it was announced, and with good reason; the melting pot of America has a reputation for accepting immigrants. A new survey confirms that tradition, with New Yorkers opposing the law by a 2-1 margin. However, the percentage among white people polled was 49-47 for the law. Were guessing they make up a majority of the 52% who want the law here.

Though 78% of blacks and 70% of Latinos were against the law, the poll found that Latinos were more likely to notify authorities if they knew someone was here illegally. Also, 26% of Republicans said they would report an illegal immigrant, compared to just 15% of Democrats. And 23% of New Yorkers, including one third of Bronx residents, said immigration wasn't a problem in New York.

Chung-Wha Hong, executive director of the New York Immigration Coalition, said New Yorkers are too savvy to implement the law here. "New Yorkers know what this is about. They get it. They know that hyping up the phobia is not the answer." The controversial law is currently being challenged in court, with the Justice Department saying that regulating immigration is the job of the federal government.

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  • charisewhite

    illegal immigrants is really a problem so its better to consult an immigration lawyer to avoid being an illegal immigrant.

    immigration attorney new york

  • jt10000

    Yeah, some good info from Sean707, but break it up please.

  • Potty Boy

    Jeez...can someone please gimme the "For Dummies" version?

  • Sean707

    It’s all about economics! Removing undocumented workers from the U.S. would total a loss of $1.8 trillion in annual spending and $651.5 billion in annual economic output, according to a study by the economic analysis firm The Perryman Group. It would cost about $28 billion per year to apprehend illegal immigrants, $6 billion a year to detain them, $500 million for extra beds, $2 million to judicially process them and $1.6 billion to transport them home. $230 Billion is the estimated amount it would cost over the next five years to enact the scenario of the mass-deportation caucus and deport the undocumented population, according to a report by the Center for American Progress. Legalization of undocumented immigrants would significantly expand the economy—by a cumulative $1.5 trillion in gross domestic product over 10 years. A deportation approach, by contrast, would have the cumulative effect of draining $2.5 trillion over 10 years from the U.S. economy. Illegal immigrants are paying taxes to Uncle Sam too. Paycheck withholding collects much of the federal tax from illegal workers, just as it does for legal workers. But some illegal immigrants choose to file taxes and write a check come April 15, using a tax filing number offered by the IRS so it can collect income tax from foreign workers. The latest figures available indicate it will amount to billions of dollars in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes this year. One rough estimate puts the amount of Social Security taxes alone at around $9 billion per year. Most importantly the current immigration reform proposal from democrats will promote Social Security and Medicare funding without rising taxes to current citizens by imposing a waiting period of 8 years for the legalized immigrants to be able to naturalize as part of their penalty. Social Security and Medicare funding for current citizens can be achieved with the new proposal for immigration reform because in the meanwhile legalized immigrants won’t access benefits after we do the tax contributions the Legalized immigrants will pay to us during 8 years will create a surplus that will warranty an outgoing retirement benefits collection by current citizens without increasing our taxes today. When viewed through the most narrow fiscal lens, it should be clear that in these challenging economic times lose $2.5 trillion from the U.S economy is neglectful. Now think on $230 Billion to be spent for each state enforcing federal laws following the confederate move of Arizona, just look Arizona Maricopa country administration unable of authorizing a budget for Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s tent city jail expansion to host immigrants, the millions of Arizonian taxpayers’ funds wasted in legal costs, besides the whole Arizona economy shrank 32% during the last 3 months, Arizona now is suffering the highest unemployment rate in the country, Arizonian citizens are not filling the labor job market and business are closing. At the end, any responsible leader can not dismiss the economic realities when it comes to dealing with immigration. Brewer might be effective in getting the next election in her favor but she is driving Arizona into a deeper recession while playing the immigration card and Arizonians haven’t realized that fact yet. In the other hand we have some politicians that are not interested in the economics of illegal immigration whatsoever their motivations are purely xenophobic don’t let Socialist gangs pursue their fascist agenda, no joke or satire here, because there is an actual Nazi Socialist Movement (NSM), the NSM is a gang that dares to blend the red, white and blue of our bellowed American Flag with the Nazi swastika to identify themselves as the Nazi Socialist movement of USA. The alarming fact is that the NSM gang is currently infiltrated in the Arizona’s Government and look for Senator Pierce Russell the Politian behind the defeated Arizona SB-1070 fascist law who was found associated with the NSM neo-Nazi gang leader J.T. Ready, please take a look of the breaking news at the Huffington Post. Some politicians are using immigration as a Trojan horse to get a sit on the senate, congress, or local governments. Wake up people if we ended up with a republican majority in congress say goodbye to the tax cuts the president promised for 95% of Americans. Get your priorities straight when you vote next November immigration is just an escape goat to distract voters about Tax reform.

  • John L

    Good job Sean!

    I keep teling them not to fall for the okey doke!

  • Clarice City

    Awwww...an "escape goat"! That's really cute! It's 'scapegoat', buddy.

  • Såkandulæredet

    Didn't your English teacher teach you about paragraphs?

  • cronegirl

    +1

  • bashmentgirl

    How many people were surveyed?

  • ides_of_march

    Surveying people by race, that's not racial profiling?

  • exnyer

    White people "Don`t Like Leeches" that`s what illegals are. We got enough people mooching of of us!!!!!

  • Crapola

    Apparently you haven't been taking advantage of the free education system as these illegals have.

  • bashmentgirl

    can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious; I hope it's the former.

  • exnyer

    I believe Jaya, writing these headlines, is quite the racist herself "New York`s WHITE people" she`s looking to incite!!! As if NY`s white population have a lock on bigotry. I have to go the Mexican just took my pizza out of the oven.

  • grandzu

    Man, I remember stuffwhitepeoplelike.com being funnier than this.

  • snickerdoodle

    Being racist and simple-minded about complicated issues must be a prerequisite to intern and blog for Gothamist.

  • unretrofiedforu

    So why don't you apply?

  • Brittanicus

    To me illegal immigration is one the principle issues of the impending November election, because of the costs entailed every year to financially support the millions of these poor, unschooled people coming to our shores is overwhelming. This is especially outrageous, when our government fails to consider the will of its own citizens and do only what’s necessary when discovered? But there is yet another severe problem that influences every American which is political campaign money. Unless we have our eyes and ears open beginning in November as, not too much has been presented by the press about this major problem. Even worse is that affects us all, of which the courts have said that it’s fine for our lawmakers to accept contributions, even from foreign corporations. President Obama has spoken about it, and I do agree with his assessment of this serious situation that undermines the whole concept of our voting system.

    It literary means any foreign entity can spend millions of dollars on TV ads, either from say, (BP) British Petroleum or the Sultan of Brunei or the United Arab Emirates to impact US voters in November. This is relevant to both parties, which I think is nauseating. Every politician should be held accountable and held to the highest standard--after all they did swear allegiance to the American people and not to Wall Street. It’s likely we will be bombarded in the coming months, with lies and propaganda from either side of the aisle, in Washington. Citizens should make it job--ONE--to find out who is pushing these nefarious advertising, that our TV screen will be plastered with? We need to distinguish on the Democratic side, which entity is paying for their ads; enemies foreign or domestic. Trade Unions for instance should not be allowed to spend Union dues, to promote any lawmaker, unless the individual Union member is allowed to choose, which issue or politician?

    The same with the Republicans lawmakers who used a filibuster to table exposed advertising laws, when THE PEOPLE demand transparency for whose paying for the commercials in November, or even the general election? Otherwise Wall Street will be just as powerful under the next election that cannot be tolerated by the Public. We need to get rid of the smugness in the Capitol and remove all none effective incumbents in November. Senator Reid (D-NV) must be removed and the unpatriotic Czars, including many of the Republican> All those categorized as tax and spend, or pro-amnesty politicians must go? We must destroy the machinery where the most money spent by candidates—BUYS--them a political position such as Governor, Senator or Congressman, who think they can fool the public with their rhetoric.



    We cannot remain unfocused by the current Mosque controversy in New York, but open our eyes wide and discharge legislators who are in collusion with the Mexican government who want in on our Social Security. We must—NOT--ratify any Mexican totalization treaty with Social Security, to allow illegal alien workers access to fraudulent tax money, which has been accumulated overtime. When you break our laws as foreigners, you shouldn’t be rewarded. Every law that is detrimental to the American taxpayer such as the instant citizenship baby law should be rescinded or amended. Any law that assists Americans claim their jobs back, as a mandated E-Verify. The federal government should instruct every local police department to apprehend illegal aliens under the 286 (G) statute. Then above all else--NO AMNESTY--NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

    Although we do not have any official Amnesty for illegal people in this country, over 1.5 million are still being imported annually taking away jobs from the 14.5 million American and permanent resident labor force. THESE UNDISCLOSED LEGAL IMMIGRANT IMPORTATION HAS BEEN THE AGENA FOR YEARS. Obama has promised honest, free trade with cheap foreign nations, but this has still not materialized. In addition we need to hold these countries accountable for unfair trade practices. Hopefully, the tea party, moderate conservatives will not fall for the old, retried agenda of both Liberal Democrats and Republicans and start a new path to a new successful economic future. Learn about the Mexican Social Security agreement at NUMBERSUSA & corruption unrevealed at JUDICIAL WATCH.

  • jt10000

    " the costs entailed every year to financially support the millions of these poor, unschooled people coming to our shores is overwhelming"

    What costs? The economic analysis I've seen says the net effect on the US as a whole is neutral or slightly positive (though in some specific places it's negative and some more positive).

    Do you have any evidence of these "overwhelming costs" or are you just making things up?

  • Sean707

    Are you sure about your fiscal responsibility? Because the arguments you are posting here seems to be a copy of the Nazi Socialist Movement (NSM) propaganda. All you unfounded data can be found in the NSM website.

    Reliable sources can prove you wrong:

    Option one– Mass Deportation

    * $1.8 Trillion: Removing undocumented workers from the U.S. would total a loss of $1.8 trillion in annual spending and $651.5 billion in annual economic output, according to a study by the economic analysis firm The Perryman Group.

    * $230 Billion: The minimum estimated amount it would cost over the next five years to enact the dream scenario of the mass-deportation caucus and deport most of the undocumented population, according to a report by the Center for American Progress.

    * $2.5 trillion: A mass deportation approach would have the cumulative effect of draining $2.5 trillion over 10 years from the U.S. economy according to CAP.

    Option two -- Legalization

    * $66 Billion: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and Joint Committee on Taxation estimated that the 2006 Senate comprehensive immigration reform bill would have raised $66 billion in new revenue over a ten-year period, primarily from income and payroll taxes.

    * $272 million & $70 million: In New York City alone in 2005, the city government lost out on $272 million in revenue in lost payroll taxes and $70 million in lost personal income taxes from employers paying “under the table,” according to a Fiscal Policy Institute study.

    * 90%: Approximately 9/10 native-born workers with at least a high school diploma experienced wage gains because of immigration between 1990 and 2004, according to a study by Giovanni Peri, Associated Professor of Economics at UC Davis.

    * $407 Billion: The estimated amount that, over the next 50 years, new, legal immigrants entering the U.S. would provide in present value to the national Social Security system, according to a study from National Foundation for American Policy.

    * $1.5 trillion: Legalization of undocumented immigrants would significantly expand the economy—by a cumulative $1.5 trillion in gross domestic product over 10 years according to CAP.

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