Police Crackdown On Dog-Toting Subway Riders Continues!

LOL

Basic rule of interaction with police: keep your hands empty and in view the whole time. Basic rule for cops: Keep the perps hands empty and in view the whole time. As unlikely as it may be, Garcia made a bad move, responded badly, and will just have to deal with it. DisCon is a violation, suck it up. And why do you not want someone to be messing with a cellphone while they're detained? ::::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIjkBVEtyE

Agreed , And if you just happen to be Black, Please just don't reach for anything ! No Wallets, Keys, Pack of Gum, Cigarettes, Weed, Cellphone ! Nothing ! Hell take a deep breath and hold that shit till the cops leave !

anyone with a dog on the subway that is not in a carrier should AT LEAST spend the night in jail and lose the dog for good. we need a GIANT deterrent to keep these filthy animals from running around, pissing and shitting on the trains and trying to bite people. there's enough of that behavior from the human passengers.

NO DOGS ON THE SUBWAY (except for authorized service animals, of course)

I never seen any dogs shitting nor pissing on the train. I have seen people pissing in between cars and once someone took a dump on the car. I have seen people clipping their nails and eating their stinky food on the train. I think it is these people that should be put in jail

sorry, ever been pulled over and the cop takes your id and goes to sit in his car to write a ticket,

your saying your not allowed to make a call?

get real, its an unneeded power trip.

for a cop who has your id while your holding a dog and shopping bag with a younger relative to claim you cant have your phone in your hand is unnneeded.

guess what if you have a camera around your neck and want to start snapping pictures, thats actually legal.

cop has no reason to snatch anything out of your hand

they know what cellphones and cameras are,

in a non crime non viloence situation a person wanting to use the cellphone or take a picture is perfectly ok

dummies,

there is no reason to control, grab or detain a cellphone while writing up a ticket for a non arrest violation sorry.

Every year the IQ of new police recruits drops about 10 points. They're becoming as mindless as combat troops, with no skills of discretion, and the city likes it that way.

If you paid just a little attention to the pages you spam, you could have scored big by mentioning how fashionable it is to carry your dog on the subway in an authentic gucci bag.

Totally unnecessary arrest costing the tax payers money just to further inflate a cop's ego. With a good lawyer she might even be able to sue and get a few dollars out the city.

Meanwhile real criminals are running rampant and shooting people like if it's the 90's again.

I picked up a friend's dog at Grand Central last summer to watch her when he went on vacation. He didn't bring a carrier so I sneaked her onto a Brooklyn-bound 4 train (I thought) and sat her down under my seat. The announcer came on and announced the next stop and then added "and the guy with the little black dog, if you do it again you'll be asked to leave the train." Everybody on the train laughed and nobody said another word about her. But she made a lot of friends on the way to Brooklyn.

That was not supposed to be a reply.

So NYPD enforces this rules yet permits those illegals on the train do their fucking magic shows with bunnies and birds?

And don't forget NYPD let's you having sex with a chicken on the train too.

http://gothamist.com/2010/01/27/video_chicken_on_the_6_train_no_big.php

WTF??? That is sick. Chicken should have peck this fool's nose off.

the use of past tense seems to elude you.

Viane Delgado is the Post number #1 source for all its reporting. :D

I hope she gets tons of money, cops are dicks when are not watched.

I totally buy her cell phone snatching story, since it was a woman cop she was probably power tripping over another female.

ALL DAY ALL NIGHT!

Haha, nice.

the cops only grabbed the cellphone to be a cuuunnt and bait the woman into grabbing it back to justify extra overtime a stat generating arrest instead of a lowly ticket.

legally the cop can grab the phone but cant search it.

even if the excuse was she thought the phone was a weapon, the cop would be legally obligated to return it immediately.

why exactly would a cop grab a phone unless it was to be a nasty biyooootch cuuunt whoooore ppiiiig!!!

"even if the excuse was she thought the phone was a weapon, the cop would be legally obligated to return it immediately"

Completely inaccurate. If the cop was writing a citation, she was being detained. The cop certainly absolutely could legally keep control of the phone until releasing her.

Cops don't want you to have anything in your hands while you're being questioned, ticketed, or whatever.

Grabbing it away is the wrong way to deal with it, but we're only hearing one side of the story so don't even know that's really an accurate account of what happened. Doesn't seem unlikely that there was more to the exchange than that.

irrelevant, cop has no reason to grab or control the phone or prevent someone from making a phone call.

sorry, again they dont want you to have anyhting in your hand doesnt matter, anything in your hand is yours not the cops.

copworshippers like you make no sense, the police exist to instill order, cop has no reason to take a cellphone, theres no legit reason to grab for it, a cop will know better, if i have money in my hand your saying a cop can grab for it and arrest me if i dont allow him to grab it out of my hands...get real.

theres no need for an accurate account, cops exist for a reason, in general ticketing a college student holding a small dog in her arms is not one of the accepted ones.

"copworshippers like you"

Few who've paid attention to my posts here would tag me with that brand.

What I am doing is stating facts. The way things are. Call me factworshipper. You can emotionally shriek about how you think things should be, what the law should read, what the police should not be able to do, but that will not change anything.

And should you encounter the police, your experience if you follow the thinking you're laying out here will be just like this woman's. You'll be making a call from Central Booking. Being (I presume) male, you'll probably also be doing so with a few bruises.

Okay jaycjay, if you're gonna present yourself as 'factworshipper' stick to the facts. The folks in Central Booking are not quite as interested in pointless physical violence as you portray them to be. Actually, they're mostly interested in getting in front of a judge so they can get the hell out. Unless you buy Ms. Garcia's contention that she was psychologically bruised by having to converse like a human being with prostitutes, drug users, and other 'low caliber people,' how bout you accept the reality that Central Booking is a generally unpleasant place filled (mostly) with folks who have other things on their minds than making it even more unpleasant for themselves and the people around them?

My implication was targeted at your hypothetical arresting officers, not your hypothetical fellow arrestees.

The city council, or whoever is in charge of subway law, has decided that animals on the subway need to be in carriers. If they law isn't meant to be enforced against college students, then who is it meant to be enforced against?

jaycjay is right. She's being detained by the police, and shouldn't have anything in her hands, including a cell phone. She wants to make a call? She can do it after she gets her ticket. She wants to grab it back from the police? Well now she can use the central booking phone.

"The city council, or whoever is in charge of subway law"

Just to clarify because it's something many people don't know, the "rules of conduct" are created independently by the MTA. They don't have to passed into law by the city council or the state legislature; the MTA is given the power under NYS Public Authorities Law.

Thank You. I still don't understand why the average new yorker thinks that the city is in charge of the MTA.

You can make credit card calls on the Central Booking phone. It's awesome.

Wait, the mysteries witness from last year's incident is named "Viane Delgado...and the name of the witness from this incident is "Diane Velgado"...? Or is that a joke?

I'm fairly sure it's a joke.

I figured so...it wasn't very clear.

Yes it was :)

Yeah, the Central Booking commentary kinda throws her whole story into question. Sounds like an adventure to me - or at the very least, an opportunity to realize you and your little dog don't have it so bad. Really, though, complaining about a job offer in this economy is what puts her over the edge. Sounds like a few hours community service scooping dog shit off the sidewalks in Washington Heights would do her a world of good...

If the cops take my stuff, I'll phuck his shit up yo. That shit would get real super fast.

Phuck the police!

YES! An internet gangsta. We've ever seen THAT before!

What is with these people? I take my dog on the subway twice a week at least. She stays in her carrier and no one has ever said a word to me, although occasionally when she sticks her head out little kids want to pet her. I don't have a problem with obeying the rules, though I also don't see how a dog on a train is an offense worth arresting someone over.

Paper is right. It wasn't the dog that got her in a world of shit, it was the tussle with the cop over the phone that landed her ass in jail. The cop probably thought she was going to video tape the whole episode when she took it out and we all know how cops feel about being on the big screen. Just take the damn ticket and argue it with the judge no need to get into a pissing contest with the cop you'll just get your ass toss in jail.

No, you're doing it the right way. Your dog is in a carrier. While i don't necessarily agree with the rule that it needs to be, it is indeed the law.

However, the young lady in question got arrested because she was a dickhead to the cop. When you break the law, just shut up and take the ticket, because arguing is only going to make it worse. Don't think that arguing with an officer is going to get you out of it. She broke the law and was wrestling with the cop. Whether the law is fair or not, she shouldn't have broken it.

"However, the young lady in question got arrested because she was a dickhead to the cop. When you break the law, just shut up and take the ticket, because arguing is only going to make it worse. Don't think that arguing with an officer is going to get you out of it. She broke the law and was wrestling with the cop. Whether the law is fair or not, she shouldn't have broken it. " No She was arrested because the cop assaulted her by allegedly snatching her cell phone out of her hand . Look I personally agree with cops giving out summons to people with pets in the subways unleashed, and outside of carriers . It's one of those "Commonsense rules " that just makes well....SENSE ! This woman was wrong for her comments towards the Officer but that's no excuse for snatching her personal property from her because the Officer (May have ) felt she was going to record the incident . Last time I checked it wasn't against the law to do so . And yes before one of you trolls has the chance to point it out , I'm well aware of the "No pictures, OR Video Photography in the Subways " That has nothing to do with this occurrence, Primarily due to the fact that the Officer didn't give this woman the chance to actually press record . Then again , Even if she had of recorded this the Officer would still be in the wrong to snatch her phone from her . She will eventually get around to suing the city for that put of the altercation and turn a profit from being a dumb ass !

One morning, a punkish kid carried his pit bull mix onto my train. A cop happened to be in the same car, and he gave the kid a stern talking-to but didn't ticket him or boot him off the train. That was a nice day.