Could NYC Be Next To Ban Pets From Pet Stores?

I can support a ban on the selling of dogs and cats, usually the ones at shelters have a better chance of NOT having behavoral problems. Not to mention, less puppy mills.

...but ALL pets minus fish?

Fuck that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9CwkTPQNUE&feature=player_embedded

This is why puppy mills should end.

YOUNGPRO. If you would take the time to look up the REAL STATS, you have them almost EXACTLY backwards!.. You will not find ONE SOURCE on line, NOT HSUS, NOT ASPCA NOR PETA or THE USGOV who can verify the fact you just stated that "90% of DOGS COME FROM PUPPY MILLS/ BREEDERS".. Thats is a complete utter ignorant statement and there is NOT ONE REPUTBALE source online or otherwise to verify that fact.. You watch too many HSUS and ASPCA Puppy Mill raid commericals.. THE TRUTH IS, and it IS verifable ALL OVER THE NETS AS WELL AS ON HSUS AND ASPCAS OWN SITES, that nearly 90% of the UNWANTED 4-12 MILLION DOGS, CATS and OTHER animals that are euthanized EVERY YEAR IN THIS COUNTRY come from STUPID, IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS.. LOOK IT UP!... People have heard these lies so long they dont even bother to verify the REAL statistics now days.. You have the internet.. It is a REAL useful tool.. If you and these other people would take the time to verify things likes this BEFORE you donate your money to HSUS ASPCA PETA and these euthanizing liars, you would START donating to your local rescue groups, particularly the NO-KILL ones.. So that we could TRY to curve this astounding kill rate.. That is the ONLY way that we are going to stop the killing.. ASPCA has been around since 1866, HSUS 1955? PETA since the 1980s? Have you seen the pet population do ANYTHING BUT GET WORSE? NO, And you NEVER will until you start volunteering and donating AT YOUR LOCAL HUMANE SOCIETY where all of these animals are being murdered year after year after year because of LACK OF FUNDING AND LACK LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL OVERSITE, and even MORE importantly because of LACK OF SOCIAL RESPONSIBLILITY ON THE PART OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT LARGE!

comment...epic...failure..

you are a fucking retard.

if you see things like " theyre called QUOTATION MARKS, USED TO QUOTE PEOPLE, LIKE FELIX.

i really don't care if you want to stick a broken glass bottle up your ass. it is your right. But IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO ABUSE ANIMALS. They have their right to live. YOU ARE NOT A MASTER.

You know, these situations are becoming more RIDICULOUS every day.. You people seem to have lost all contact with common sense and reality.. You think that your "beliefs" about selling and owning animals are some kind of unversal belief.. You think that what YOU believe should be law and that somehow you have a God given or LEGAL right to inflict that "belief" upon the general public and legitimate businesses. Its is NOT your right no matter what you believe to TRY to tell me I cant raise a puppy or I can sell a puppy because IGNORANT people dont take responsiblitly for their actions. I don't tell you that you cant eat a steak because I don't agree with the way the animal is house our "slaughtered" to be put on your plate. I don't tell you that you can't drive your stinking SUV around my neigbiorhood when my family can hardly breathe clean air these days because of pollution.. The problem is, you extremist think that you can regulate and tell US what to do and we are supposed to just accept any and everything that YOU say should be law.. Im here to tell you, I WILL BE WRITING EVERY SENATOR, CONGRESSMAN, OBAMA, BIDEN, GOVERNOR and other offical for whom I can find a vaild address continually as I have for a long time now.. You have NO right legal or otherwise to try to inflict your ignorance on me and my family. You have NO RIGHT to try to tell me that I cant buy a dog from anyone that I want to.. Why don't you go follow PETA around and tell them TO STOP MURDERING 90+% of the dogs that they SUPPOSEDLY RESCUE EVERY YR.. LOOK UP THEIR KILL STATS.. Why don't you tell the ASPCA and HSUS ( and yes I HATE A REAL PUPPY MILL JUST LIKE YOU BUT I DON'T LIKE TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE MONEY) to stop LYING to the public to gain donations telling people lies like "PUPPY MILLS/ BREEDERS" cause over population when the reality of it is it is a COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE!. Look up the stats online.. EVEN THE USGOV stats state that only around ten percent of dogs that are born in the U.S. each year come from breeders.. The other 85-90% come from IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS.. YES THEY COME FROM YOU STUPID PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SPAY AND NEUTHER YOUR PET!.. If the ASPCA PETA OR HSUS would tell you that, YOU WOULD NOT GIVE THEM HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR because of these "Puppy Mill LIE commericals".. People need to know the truth.. YOU NEED TO SPAY AND NEUTER IF YOU REALLY WANT TO STOP THE MASS EUTHANIZATION of the esimated 4-12 MILLION (depending on the source ) cats and dogs that are MURDERED in SHELTERS EA YR!.. YOU, the general public who does not spay and neuter, let your dogs run up and down the road breedeing any and everything, YOU are the real culprit here.. LOOK UP THE STATS ONLINE.. STOP LYING TO YOURSELF.. ASPCA HSUS PETA STOP lying to the general public trying to get money out of them.. TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH.. WE, THE NON-SPAYING, NON-NEUTERING PUBLIC are the real culprits here... Until WE, THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, our local goverments start doing OUR jobs, there will ALWAYS be pet over population.. STOP BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE FOR THE PROBLEMS YOU CREATE!..

I want to say I am shocked by the outrage of the idea that people own pets. "owning" pets or caretaking them is just about the same thing. Amanda thanks for all of the insults to anyone that is GOP. I am a republican, however I am not narrow minded. I thought you dems were supposed to be liberal. How is it liberal to only see and respect your way of being. Sorry babe but that is narrow minded. YIKES And the crap about education. All of you over educated idiots have gotten this country in quite a situation havent you now. Ever occur to you that education like religeon is a book written from the point of view of one person and then they get a following and now all of those people who have memorized and became familiar with the retoric consider themselves educated. Well my narrow minded friend. I have a brain and I use it, I do not need books,men people like you, or legislation to tell me how to be or what to think. I am a free thinker as we all should be. I am for gay marriage, I am against abortion (makes women look ignorant) along with taking the life of harmless humans. And if you want to be so high and mighty and talk about the animals rights what about the rights of the unborn. No more natural to yank babies out of a warm womb then parrots out of a tree in the rainforest, but each to his own. I prefer to leave them both where God has arranged for them to be. So you go on with your rants on here and follow the BS that you have been handed by someone somewhere, maybe one of those fancy books someone wrote so you would know how to think and feel. God forbid you use your own senses. Some of us need education to feel important and equal, some of us believe we were all born equal. I choose the latter. So to all of my friends out there who are under educated and were insulted by Amanda, I would like to thank you for working and paying your taxes so that we can put dim lights like her into College and they can come out so bright. Then they can be there to let us know how we all lack intelligence and education. Back on subject of pet ownership, if you adopt from a shelter does that make you any less of an owner. And AKC does inspect just so you know. And by the way maybe you should check the tax returns of some of the shelters and see how much money is paid to the employees before you are so sure they are not profiting. You might be right, but I think you are WRONG! PS I owned a little rat for 4 years oldest rat ever seen by my vet when she had to be put to sleep because of tumors. She was my sons. Bought her on an impulse, she taught him alot about respecting Gods creatures. When she died we both cried for about 2 weeks, could not even talk about it to friends or we would break down. Think of all the kids who wont get to experience that kind of commitment and love, because some group somewhere has an agenda. SHAME ON YOU!!

ADOPT A SHELTER PET. >^..^

I don't support Pet sHops because those animals are from puppy mills.

90% of them are from mills, or all? you contradicted yourself.

please provide clarity and coherence next time.

some more felixthecat fun and games.

felix the cat = nobrainstem (apathysucks)

both have an enduring passion for mike bloomberg:

'I love king Bloomberg.'

both have a not-so-commanding command of the use of simple past tense:

'I think I SLEEP with Rush. I can't remember since I was drunk again.'

both love the mets:

'I heart Mets and Mr. Met.'

...and both love to get owned, on the L train, by hipster men:

'yep, I don't ride it (a big fat peter) often except to head to food swings but there were some gems on that line.'

...and by 'gems' he means man meat.

also, i find it fun and interesting to see felixthecat and nobrainstem both spell 'bytches' the same...

felix, you'll have to wake up pretty early in the morning to fool this girl :) what about me that makes you so jealous? the fact that i (among others) constantly put you in place and make you look utterly stupid? the fact that i found a handful of i.p. addresses from the multiple computers at Fordham you blog from? the fact that you were trapped you into revealing yourself?

it's also 'cute' knowing that you go into your fetal defense 'help me, i'm being attacked' mode and bring out your friend apathy sucks (a/k/a no brain stem) when youre made to look stupid, much like batman calls on robin.

youre not smart. everyone here knows it. every comment by you is like being on an acid trip.

SOME FAMOUS FELIX THE CAT QUOTES:

'I am native New Yorker'

'I may not know what I'm talking about, but trust me'

'90% of pet shops sell animals from mills' followed by 'all animals in pet stores come from mills'

'marty markowitz should be stabbed' (x2)

also, flattering me by using a pic of me as your avatar in no brain stem's profile doesn't exactly help your 'cause.'

bytch!

the extreme use wave of spelling mistakes leads to one person: felix the immigrant

a/k/a the thrilla from manila

FELIX THE ASSHOLE, caught in yet another flip-flop:

(yesterday)

'...90% of the animals come from mills.'

(today)

'...all of the puppies sold in pet stores come from puppy mills.'

apathy doesn't suck...it just makes you look stupid, felix :)

First off, I recognize the buying/selling animals is amoral. They are treated as a commodity by most places that sell, and that is fundamentally wrong.

But, if an animal is in a shelter or pet store, the clock of it's life it just ticking down to either a) being adopted / purchased or b) being put down. Pet store or shelter, the critter faces the same fate.

Those that would defend animals and claim that the animal's well-being is the most important aspect of this argument don't often take that into account. "Don't buy from stores" then translates into "Let all the animals in stores die". Doesn't seem to mesh with their stance that the well-being is the most important thing. It punishes the animal, not the businessmen who put the animal in that position. Kind of like "blame the prostitute, not the pimp that makes her work".

The reality of this situation is that this issue is not black and white, and blanket legislation like this isn't going to solve anything. In any case, I like the idea of having a surcharge on store-bought animals to support shelters.

Buying animals is not only immoral but the suffering and cost caused by pet shops can't be minimized by a tax. Anyhow NYC isn't progressive as some european countries and San Francisco. Look at what we have here. Christine Quin, who belongs in jail.

... and Felixthecat who belongs in an asylum.

I go away for a week and Felix makes up yet another account/personality? Sad. Sad. Sad. One day he'll get a real friend. One day he'll grow up. Or he'll die miserable. Meh.

and hes using an avatar of my pic again...

Which one are you? And how stupid can he be to use a pic of not only you, but someone else?

do you really need to ask how stupid he can be?

You're right.

I wish there was one word that could describe how pathetic an individual he is, but there's not. Damn near makes me want to cry.

No, I don't think that is at all acceptable, but apparently mercy for animals do , they not only secretly watched it for three weeks and did not report it, MFA joined in themselves stabbing cows with pitchforks and beat them , as quoted by Jason Smith( a MFA investigator).

My response was to no brain stem(aka, felix's lame attempt to pick on youngpro)

http://www.latimes.com/news/health/la-he-milk-20100712-2,0,3862887.story

Of the foods that have their own tier on the pyramid, dairy products

catch a lot of grief. A PETA website says that "dairy products are a

health hazard" that are linked to "allergies, constipation, obesity,

heart disease, cancer and other disease." For a topper, the site says

that milk is often contaminated with cow's blood and pus.

The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine has always singled

out milk as a particularly dangerous part of the typical western diet.

The PCRM website says that saturated fats in dairy products increase

the risk of heart disease. It also says that the natural hormones in

milk encourage cancer of the breast, prostate and ovaries. Turning

popular wisdom on its head, the organization says that dairy products

won't help prevent osteoporosis, the bone-thinning disease. The

website highlights the Nurses Health Study, a 12-year examination of

more than 77,000 women published in 1997 that found no link between

reported dairy intake and the incidence of broken bones.

--

OMG, you gullible fool. The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine is a scam artist animal rights group , made up by peta to fool people with fake nutritional guidelines. HA, that's pretty funny, next time try and find some REAL scientist.

Why is it that you can't keep one log on? What a coward you are for hiding behind numerous accounts. As for the MFA scumbags the Ohio DA gave them a good schooling and called them out for their heavily edited films, and no I don't work their. If I used your logic, YOU ARE the one who fire bombs university buildings and YOU ARE the man from peta caught throwing dead animals in dumpsters. Now, see how dumb it sounds when you make up accusations without knowing anything about that person. Your mind over simplifies things WAY to much. Now, try to leave a intelligent reply next time.

It was only a questie. Why so defensive? do you think it is ok to stomp on cows and punch calves in their faces acceptable?

So what your saying is that ALL pet shop dogs come from "puppy mills" and ALL of them are inbred and sick, and shelters only exist of pet shop animals, then why would shelters animals be better than pet shop animals? According to your logic shelter animal must all be inbred and sick because they all come from pet shops.

SHelters do not only have pet store animals they also have a lot of mutts that were born natually because the owners did not fix their pets and because of hibrid verillity they are better so statistically your chances at a shelter are much better

so to sum up -

buying a dog is 100% risky and always immoral

getting a shelter dogs is less risky and always good

and there are no other alternatives thats it

You should get a award for the longest bit ever, unless you really are felix.I don't think you are, cause you have better typing skills, and at times humorous.

Do you workie here?

http://bit.ly/aX1PMs

1. Do Not Buy Your Puppy From a Pet Store

That puppy who charmed you through the pet shop window has most likely come from a large-scale, substandard commercial breeding facility, commonly known as a puppy mill. In these facilities, parent dogs are caged and bred as often as possible, and give birth to puppies who could have costly medical problems you might not become aware of until after you bring your new pet home

this law only ASSUMES that some people who buy from pet stores abandon pets, be it a deterrent or not, as if to say people who buy from shelters dont.

The Law assumes? LMFAO. Since when does any written code assume? LOL. The issue is Pet MIlls exists for Pet Shops. Animals from these mills are abused, overbreed and inbreed.

all of you PETA fanatics do realize that they are notorious for killing the animals in their shelters, yes? i don't see how it makes sense to shut down pet stores & move the overflow animals into kill shelters where they're just as likely to be euthanized as they would have been in the pet store.

i hate seeing hungry stray cats around Brooklyn digging in the trash for food and wish families wouldn't buy kittens then throw them out when they stop being little & "cute" but banning pets from pet stores is a dumb, blithely idealistic solution, much like most other ideas that come out of San Francisco. more no-kill shelters & free spay-neuter clinics would be great but i doubt the city has the money to afford them - a good temporary measure might be taxing pet store animal sales [not shelter adoptions] & using the money to fund no-kill shelters & spay-neuter programs - seeing as they tax basically everything else, it's a natural act for them & they probably won't screw it up.

public service announcements are a waste of time & money. plus they could easily backfire - a subway ad featuring cute kittens romping around triggers a spoiled brat's scream of "I WANT" & mommie is off to the pet store to buy fluffy, who will be unceremoniously left in a dumpster when it turns out he likes to use their antique sofa as a scratching post. dumb.

Pet Shops kill animals and PETA has no animal shelters. here are videos of Petland and puppy mills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wav9SUmhdlg&feature=related

sigh---where would gothamist be without sobby pet stories?!

Puppies in stores come from puppy mills. Horrible, inhumane places where dogs are bred to death. And purebred dogs are a genetic mess anyway -- "line breeding" is really inbreeding. Basically the retail pet industry is a screwed-up nightmare undertaken for the benefit of yuppies who want branded animals. So yeah, ban that shit. There are thousands of puppies and kittens sitting in shelters right now.

The west coast proposal has east coast

It is amazing how much misinformation exists about birds and animals and pet stores and shelters/rescues. First of all, eliminating pet stores eliminates the source of pet food/toys/equipment for most pet owners of any pets besides dogs and cats. All dogs/cats/animals sold in pet stores do not come from mills. That is a wonderful persistent propaganda item pushed by HSUS and other animal rights folks. And, we have shelters and rescues who proudly claim they are putting puppy mills out of business by importing dogs from third world countries...

dogs with rabies, screw worm and other terrible diseases which are NOT vetted or quarantined but sold to self-righteous types who are thrilled to take on the responsibility of an untrained street dog. Now, let's just think a minute here...we pass laws against selling dogs and other pets in stores in the U.S. Now we are importing street animals with diseases into the US which are giving those diseases to our dogs, domestic animals and native wildlife. On top of that, we have just created a new set of puppy mills in Mexico, Brazil, Taiwan, and China...so dogs are being imported into the US and sold here from shelters. In other words, we are OUTSOURCING our dog breeding. Does this sound familiar?

And for all those non-thinkers who believe that selling an animal is evil...ever notice how much it costs to adopt an animal? Ever notice how much it costs to adopt a child? Do you think that raising a healthy well socialized animal is an activity with no expenses? No vet bills? No food bills? No facility upkeep bills? Or do you think that people spending their time to produce a quality healthy animal should magically be able to fund these activities? Get real. Producing a healthy animal is not a cheap activity and should be appropriately reimbursed.

@ Tragopan - Thank you so much for your common sense reply. It's nice to know there are a couple of adults on this forum page.

common sense, LOL. this person sounds like he sells animals and that he why he posted that bull shit.

Bottom line. all those animals in pet shops come from puppy mills and are bred in cages to mass produce. they are inbred and kept in horrible conditions. So please stop with the bull shit. They are over millions of dogs and cats killed in shelter because of pet shops. IT stems from pet shops and puppy mills.

They are PRODUCING ANIMALS as other business manufacture PARTS. Animals should not be for sale. This is immoral, against the balance of life, against God's creation, against humanity. ARen't you the one who was complaining about pro-choice. I never understand how SOME people who are pro-life can have so little compassion. Pro-war, Pro-death capital, pro guns, pro- environment deregulation, etc. IT makes no sense to me

Hope you weren't replying to me with that anti-abortion thing. "Pro-Life" is just a contrived term to represent anti-individual choice. I think you can leave God out of it, too. You never specified which god. Some folks' god(s) tell them to kill animals. Humanity has to do with humans, hence, "humanity". And many "moral" issues are a matter of personal choice. And the "balance of life" involves predators and death, as well as sickness and starvation based on population/resources. Oh, and Crawford thinks your silly.

reply to ides of march

In that case, just disregard the first two sentences of my post, then consider the rest as my reply.

Puppy Mills, Pet Shops, and the AKC Basic Facts

Where do pet stores get their puppies?

Virtually all of the puppies sold in pet stores come from puppy mills.

What are puppy mills?

Crude, outdoor breeding farms that mass-produce puppies for sale to pet stores and regularly supply dogs to laboratories and animal brokers.

Why shouldn’t we buy puppies in pet stores?

Pet shop employees routinely deny that they purchase from mills, or brokers that trade in puppy mill animals. They claim that they purchase puppies from 'reputable breeders and that the AKC papers prove it. As long as pet store customers purchase puppies, puppy mills will have a market. If you purchase a puppy, another animal will take it’s place. The mothers of the pups will continue to suffer.

Does the AKC inspect the breeders?

The AKC does not inspect kennels, nor does it vouch for the health or well-being of a puppy.

Are AKC - registered dogs guaranteed?

No. AKC registered simply means the puppy had two parents of the same breed. The AKC registers dogs and gives them 'papers which help to sell them in pet shops or at breeders’ kennels.

Does the AKC make money from puppy mills?

Yes, lots. Puppy mills comprise 80% of the AKC’s business. It registered 917,247 puppies in 2003 at the cost of approximately $25.00 per puppy.

Doesn’t the USDA protect these animals?

Wholesale dog breeding and the shipment of live animals are regulated by the USDA under the 1970 Animal Welfare Act. The Act requires breeders to be licensed, inspected, and regulated to ensure the very minimum standards of housing, care, and medical treatment.

The law, however is poorly enforced. The USDA has few agents to inspect approximately 5,000 puppy mills nationwide. When they discover infractions, the breeder routinely receives 'a slap on the wrist. Nothing in the welfare legislation does anything to change people’s minds about the idea that puppies are disposable merchandise.

Do state laws protect dogs and consumers?

States generally have an anti-animal cruelty laws to supposedly protect animals from overt physical abuse and neglect. Since under the law animals are viewed as the property of the owner, cruelty is often difficult to prove.

Consumers are protected to some degree by 'pet lemon laws, in some states. The law requires pet stores to refund money for unhealthy animals, pay for medical costs or offer another animal; it depends upon the state. This does not alleviate the grief, however, of a family experiencing the loss of a much loved puppy or kitten.

Where can I find a purebred dog?

More than 25% of the dogs at shelters are purebred dogs. Also, contact breed groups who specialize in adoptions for adult dogs of a specific breed.

Do puppy mills produce kittens, Too?

Yes. Sometimes the same breeder who produces puppies for pet shops also supplies purebred kittens.

What You Can Do To Help:

Adopt a dog or cat from a shelter.

Do not purchase dogs or cats from pet shops. There is no reason to breed dogs and cats while millions are killed in shelters. Without pet shop sales, the market for puppy mills will disappear. Support a legislative effort to shut down the puppy mill trade in your state. Ask your legislators to support a bill to prohibit the selling of puppies and kittens in pet ships. Educate the public by writing letters to local newspapers, distributing compiles of this fact sheet outside pet stores in your area, and contacting local TV and radio shows about the issue.

No because your comment is nonsense and my reply was for ides of march. This has nothing to do what people's god tells them to do. Please don't reply to me as I don't reply to you as well. thank you

Video of Petland freezing mice alive, drowning rabbits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiaaiiol5gA&feature=player_embedded

Video of a puppy mill. (some dogs can't even walk because they had no room to grow in their cages.

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2303502/7242336

Nice video, however its hard to see because of all the donate to peta signs. Maybe they need a yacht to park in front of their swanky high end harbor side headquarters.

I love how the usual trolls come out about their rights. their rights to be asshole. their right to smoke. But this issue is not about YOU, fucking assholes. That is the problem with society because assholes ALWAYS thinks it is about THEM. These pet shops aren't rescuing dogs but BREEDING THEM IN MILLS FOR SALE. So not only do they add to the already overpopulation and euthanasia of dogs but also spread the message that ANIIMALS ARE PROPERTY AND ARE OWNED. JUST as asshole OWNEDslaves. This inferiority complex to OWN living being is immoral and inhumane. Having a pet companion is different than BUYING AND OWNING AN ANIMAL.

Okay, now, can't have weed or any other drug unless it's in the prescribe/corporate/tax structure. Can't gamble, unless it's part of the tax structure. Can't make my own booze, check. Can't drink a beer on my front porch, check. Not allowed to have Trans-Fat or Salt, check. Can't have a gun, check. Can't have tobacco without severe monetary penalties, and can't consume it at the park/beach, check. DA says I can't go to Paragon and get a quality functional knife for my outdoor activities, check. Now I can't have a pet?

Crawford the crayfish is staring at me from his tank, waiting for his dinner, looking at me with those cute stalked eyes, and wondering: "No, Daddy, you're not going to have to turn me loose, are you, I like it here!!!". Contacting my Shinnecock Tribe friends. if idiotic things like this get passed, you can get your guppies along with your smokes, booze and gambling at your local reservation. When will folks learn Prohibition just doesn't work?

@dadoc - Bingo!!! I thought 'nuff was said, but I was wrong. ;-)

Some times is just doesn't pay to use creative irony, though, because too many people just don't 'get' it. I hope you have an industrial strength flak jacket. If you like, I can tell you where I got mine.

It's called the 'store ' of Life.

Was I being ironic? I am going to have to reread my post. Body armor is up-to-date, with full ceramic inserts. And I don't know, Crawford alsways gets my posts.

I say close down the shelters, they kill more animals than anyone.

This is from www.AmericanHumane.org:

"The most recent statistics published by the National Council are from 1997, and only 1,000 shelters replied to the survey at that time. Using the National Council's numbers from 1997 and estimating the number of operating shelters in the United States to be 3,500 (the exact number of animal shelters operating in the United States does not exist), these estimates were made:

Of the 1,000 shelters that replied to the National Council's survey, 4.3 million animals were handled.

In 1997, roughly 64 percent of the total number of animals that entered shelters were euthanized -- approximately 2.7 million animals in just these 1,000 shelters. These animals may have been euthanized due to overcrowding, but may also have been sick, aggressive, injured or suffering from something else.

56 percent of dogs and 71 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are euthanized. More cats are euthanized than dogs because they are more likely to enter a shelter without any owner identification.

Only 15 percent of dogs and 2 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are reunited with their owners.

25 percent of dogs and 24 percent of cats that enter animal shelters are adopted.

It is estimated that approximately 3.7 million animals were euthanized in the nation’s shelters in 2008. This number represents a generally accepted statistic that is widely used by many animal welfare organizations, including the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA).

For more information on the studies done by the National Council, please visit www.petpopulation.org.

They put these animals in these small cages and if someone doesn't adopt them in a few days they just kill them, isn't that cruel?

This happens because of the pet shops. Because if someone doesn't want the pet, the pet shop won't take it back. they will dump it unto a shelter or worst unto a street. seriously, how can you support pet shops who dogs are from puppy mills . do you know what a puppy mill is. Most pet shelter clean up the mess caused by these puppy mills and pet shops. and perhaps dogs wouldn't be killed in shelter if people won't BUY dogs from shelter.

I meant if people won't buy dogs from pet shops.

Excellent idea, let's drive a legal business that most people partake in responsibly underground because of the bad actions of a few, what could go wrong. Plus we get to create room for a black market, and those are always fun and safe for the city.

Oh and what fate will the glut of unsellable in a pet store animals face? Surely they'll be sent to live on a farm upstate, to live the rest of their days amongst rainbows and sunshine... right?

First where do you think currently the "unsellabes" as you referred to them go??? Most people partake responsibily??? over 90% of the animals come from mills. AS you animal breeder stated, no respectable person who sell animals in a pet shop. black market? People are breeding their animals and selling them and/or worst fighting them. There are NO rights for animals. If you want a pet then a shelter can provide. It is cruel and immoral to sell animals as property. IT is just wrong in so many levels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/magazine/13dogfighting-t.html

The animal cruelty syndrome.

People like the True"FACTS" just don't get it. No matter at lengths I explain to him that loving animals doesn't mean hating humans yet he CONTINUES To post the same bullshit.

Here is a NY times article about the connection of animal cruelty and human atrocities done by the same people

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/magazine/13dogfighting-t.html

"loving animals doesn't mean hating humans "

Right, not necessarily.

I like animals. I've never poisoned rodents even, just clean up my house. I've petted a bee, as well as a dolphin and even a grouper while diving. Animals seem comfortable with me.

But Amanda's posts were so hate-filled and venomous that it reminds me of several PETA members I have met. Not all PETA members maybe, but the ones that I met for sure.

They all are crazy about animals but HATE humans, are miserable to people.

I have witnessed this. I'm not making it up.

You can still appreciate animals and eat meat. It's natural. Why do you think we have canine teeth? It doesn't mean that they deserve a bullet in them, like Amanda wishes on people, does it.

and your junk is exactly like a monkeys so I guess there no excuse not to screw every women in town after all its just natural! LOL

the thing is you have a brain thats your latest evolutionery present so why not use it

and what does eating meat have to do with selling pets for money anyway I mean would it be posible to stick to the subject hunh?

The fact that you reply to your own comment indicates your mental condition.

Sort of like online talking to one's self.

You and Amanda and Felix in your comments prove what I have been saying: Animal rights Fanatics have a screw loose. None of you can write a coherent sentence or a comment without SHOUTING or rambling away.

Take some meds. You three need it.

I am obviously just appending a comment to my comment I mean duhuh it is not the same as talking to yourself if you want to be a bully and try to ignore my point thats fine but you wont be able to avoid the truth about yourself forever someday you will have to admit that we are right and you were just too selfish and stobborn to admit it

She doesn't hate humans she hates the bad things that thy do.

and so what that she wishes bad thing on bad people. So what? Why didn't you attack Dead Himmler who makes jokes about a dog who died, really fried, in a car while his asshole owner was in a pool? This is the same logic that teabaggers used on us who were against the war. that we hate America because we criticize the reasons to go to war with Iraq.

Again, just because people have compassion for animals doesn't mean they are PERFECT and nor does it mean they hate humans.

Seriously, using your logic, Michael Vick must LOVE humanity. I just that is why he went straight to a strip club after his release from jail instead of staying home with his wife and children.

So Now we hate humans because we don't want them to BREED ANIMALS, mostly sick and abused, AND SELL THEM????

people like factoid resent that we point out their inferior moral position which is ok with abusing animals so they have to constantly try to riggle away with it because the critic is so troubling to them

Who the fuck elected you "morally superior", you pompous, smug little twit?

Self praise is no praise. Get off your high horse.

SOme things are just self-evidant you know we are right because otherwise what are you so angry about. what do you have invested in seeing pet stores continue their trade. I mean big deal if you cant buy a puppy mill dog that is riddled with disease and genetic defects how is that a tragety

"SOme things are just self-evidant"

First, learn how to spell.

Secondly, the only truth self-evident in USA is as Thomas Jefferson wrote, "that all men are created equal". There is no mention of animals, is there, furby?

I ain't angry at you, buster. I just love to mock your self-righteousness.

OOh sorry I didn't use the dictionary before I wrote my comment profesor I hope you wont mark me down to much. the fact is you know exactly what I am saying and what it means just because Jefferson didnt realize it three hundred years ago doesnt mean it isnt obviously true but you keep on lying to yourself. An animal rights revolution is coming as you can see with this law and you are going to bee on the wrong side of history

Even using the dictionary won't save the fact that you are dim, despite your silly sarcastic response.

In fact, Gothamist's Spell Check prompted you of the error, didn't it, furby?

You ignored it, again demonstrating your pathetic arrogance and self-righteousness.

THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS A SLAVE OWNER so what the hell did he mean by all men are created equal? white men? you true colors came out. you issues is that you hate animals. it is evident in this comment. shame on you. leave them alone. animals don't need help, just leave them alone. they aren't asking for handout as most people. Just stop abusing them and selling them as commodities.

First, why are you always SHOUTING? What's up with you? Does it indicate an underlying disorder?

Secondly, Jefferson owned slaves? No shit, Sherlock! So, according to you the Declaration of Independence is a corrupt and evil document. Is that correct?

"So what that she wishes bad thing on bad people. So what?"

Sentences like that are the definition of an evil mind. I wish no evil on anyone. Why do you? Why do you and Amanda curse your fellow humans? Do you hate yourself so much?

Finally, who appointed you God, to determine who is good and who is bad?

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."

youre arguing with an immigrant (felix) who came here to escape one country to come to this beautiful one and then dares to bash us.

So there is no good nor bad? So let all the prisoners out of jail. And the fact that you are quoting from a bible and a slave owner as well mutes your argument. You stated Jefferson "all men are created equal" doesn't include animals. However it also didn't include non-whites according to Jefferson and nor did it include women. So to use jefferson who was a slave owner who deprived women of rights as well is a joke.

My issue with you is that everything there is any discussion or initiative to stop animal abuse, you appear in outrage. WHY does it OFFEND you so much where there is anything propose to stop animal abuse. HOW does it hurt you????? if you don't want to help then fine but WHY are you working against it. That is what is disturbing. I never once said DON"T FEED HOMELESS, DON"T HELP CHILDREN. I don't work against what is good. You have an issue and you try to mask it with your concern for humanity. So go and help humans instead of trying to hurt animals.

you have shown your true colors here. It is not about humans but your own biases against animals. shame on you.

THey know selling animals in stores is wrong but they don't want to see anything change becuase it scares them

The problem of abandoned and or sickly animals stems from stupid buyers and careless producers of said pets. Removing a pet store doesn't stop people from buying puppies and kittens, they will simply get them from inept breeders or mills directly. Maybe NY state should go after the sources of these animals, and enforce tighter animal sales/care restrictions for pet shop owners.

All this legislation does is attempt to lynch the easiest target in the chain so that people like Felix and the Peta superfriends can have something to latch on to while not actually addressing the root of the problem.

@kazubes - correct. Arguing with some of the comments is fruitless, as they are fully exposed as PETA/Animal Rights/ Animal Liberation crusaders.

If people really want pets, and considering that most of normal society does - and also has the best of intentions to care properly for them - where are they supposed to come from if not a pet store? Rescue groups and humane societies "sell" pets, so that's out. Any other brilliant ideas?

So, in San Francisco, you can buy marijuana in stores but not a pet? Nuff said.

everybody that profits from the pet breeding commerce should be outlawed.

It shouldn't be a business to make animals procreate for human profit!

Adopt the animals in shelters!

And this is not even talking about all the exotic creature market and it's impact to native populations of animals in the tropics!

You are right about hitting the source of this problem! But you are wrong if you think this issue has to do nothing with animal rights!

"everybody that profits from the pet breeding commerce should be outlawed."

---you cant 'outlaw' people, asshole.

I agree with longacre, better to have a pet tax to bankroll public service announcements, shelters, and rescuers instead of an outright ban.

Animals are living beings and not commodity to be sold as property goods. It is wrong to sell them. Shelter can provide them as a companion and/or addition to your home. Pet shops are not for the care of the animals but to make a profit. this needs to stop.

so pet stores sell animal commodities, but shelters sell animal companions?

Good God, you really are an idiot. Not to be confused with inconvenient facts, you persist in this absurd argument. SHELTERS DO NOT SELL ANIMALS. There is no profit to be made in sheltering abandoned pets. The goal of eliminating commercial dealers is to REDUCE the numbers of pets in shelters. How would reducing their own inventory benefit shelters if their goal were to increase their sales? Jesus, use a little brain power, will you.

YOUNGPRO is an idiot. Seriously, no insult but a true observation. She has no reasoning. And She claims to be a lawyer. O_O

felix, youre on the verge of being arrested again. eidently the TWO ceases and desists AND the order of protection werent enough.

oh, shelters just GIVE their stuff away?

hardy har.

Good.

Now when will the fines go up for not cleaning up after your pet?

Hate when I see stupid people letting their dogs piss in the middle of the sidewalk, or on a slope.

It's called CURBing your dog for a reason.

Yes, curbing. Not picking the shit up, right?

Such vile and nasty hatred towards your fellow species. You parents must really have mistreated you.

Also, you sure on some ego trip, little one. Calling me and anyone who disagrees with you as 'dumb' but describing yourself here as "sometime snob, sometimes genius"

Snob? That's patent.

Genius?? Really?

A self-described genius is no genius.

blah! Go and buy a gun to protect yourself from the socialists!

Trafficking of birds, reptiles, and fish is a huge problem to sustain species in the wild.

Banning such exotic pets should be the natural course of progress!

Of course the right-wing crazies will defend business first and then the "god given" right to abuse animals, before understanding the ethical considerations on preserving ecosystems and the life of these species.

The right protecting the freedom to be as dumb as immoral as you can be!

As usual there is a HUGE percentage of humans that are totally irresponsible and DUMB to even exists, to then allow them to care for defenseless creatures.

It is only responsible and ethical to stop the business of profiting from animals as pets, when knowing there is so many jackasses in this world.

If you really want one pet, go to a shelter, or import a stray dog from a 3rd world country!

Breeding animals to sell them, when there are so many homeless pets is totally immoral!

That is the cutest hamster ever!

Let's do what they did in Iraq. It would solve the problem and save a ton of money for the city. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100710/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq_stray_dogs_5