Pregnant Lady Assaulted In Fancy Washington Irving HS 'Hood

They need to just shut that school down. I got robbed by a small group from there several years back in broad daylight on University and 13th. Most of those kids have absolutely no sense of propriety and things just seem to be getting worse! Assaulting a pregnant woman...bright future for this bunch!

How do you know these kids were from W.I. if you were on 13th and Uni, 7 blocks away. There are plenty of other places those kids could have come from,

Every day is race-baiting day on Gothamist.

This school did have gangs that attacked Stuy HS kids

some years ago.

This school also segregates the smart kids from the

scum on different floors,many people are unaware that

Washington Irving is one of the few schools in the USA that offers a French "Bac" degree ,the smart kids get

dismissed at a different time for their own safety.

nothing new here as we had the same crap in the 1950's .

Poor pregnant women had to go through this but lucky

she thinks she feels safer now uptown,it's all illusion.

This shit wouldn't go down if Ichabod Crane was teaching, that's for sure.

props to the high-schoolers who politely refrained from critically stabbing or shooting a pregnant lady -- progress!

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Mirroring? JDS didn't mirror anything, he applied a stereotype to a situation in order to deride the attackers based on their race, point blank.

So what race were the assailants? There's nothing in what I wrote that suggests anything about their race; it just imagines the vernacular of street thugs who might attack a pregnant woman. I've heard people of many different ethnicities use lingo like that. The only person's race we know is the victim; the rest is what you're reading into it.

Yeah right, Del Signore, white thugs are often in the habit of saying "rich white bitch." Nice try, Cupcake.

I'm white, and I've used that term a number of times. But I'm not a thug, so you might be right.

*wink wink*

"certainly not from some rich white bitch with a mad weird growth in her stomach."

That's gothamist's code for "zionazi breeder".

Not surprising at all.

certainly not from some rich white bitch with a mad weird growth in her stomach.

C'mon, JDS, really?

Where's Al Sharpton?

If you come across a group of high school students (and you can see a group this large a block away) doesn't common sense tell you to choose another route which doesn't come directly into contact with them.

In their minds their space was invaded. This doesn't validate their response. But why walk into

I'll try again.

f you come across a group of high school students (and you can see a group this large a block away) doesn't common sense tell you to choose another route which doesn't come directly into contact with them.

In their minds their space was invaded. This doesn't validate their response. But why walk into a situation like this one?

b/c common sense should also tell you that a 5-months pregnant woman probably doesn't have enough energy to change her route for the convenience of a bunch of brats who are crowding a public sidewalk. Plus the article said she was going to her home which was close by.

BTW most teenagers I've seen (of every race) are surprisingly respectful when it comes to pregnant women and babies/small kids. I don't appreciate the racism insinuated in this post and I think it's totally unwarranted. Also not sure if the woman didn't intentionally provoke a confrontation, not that it would justify anything but if the woman was rude and knocked into someone without an "excuse me" or some acknowledgement then yes, I agree that's putting yourself in a dangerous and volatile situation.

In any case, there is no excuse to hit a pregnant woman and they should really throw the book at everyone involved. Glad the fetus is ok and the pregnancy isn't compromised.

Reading comprehension failed. where does Benny state that she is a white devil that should apologize? he does not but you do. his point was JDS' writing style on this story. It is kind of silly,

I never heard kids say "certainly not from some rich white bitch with a mad weird growth in her stomach.". mad weird growth???

perhaps this is JDS way of feeding the trolls on the NYPD rant that stated JDS if proof of a&nal conception. Maybe those NYPD ranters intimidated JDS?

fuck off ignoramus. as far as English is concerned, you can't judge another soul on Gothamist or anywhere else.

+33

I guffaw at the moral imperiousness of those that accuse the author of race baiting, and think it underscores the disparity and double-standard in crime reporting when the perpetrator and victim are from different races. Is there anyone literate enough to read this who doubts that if the races had been reversed, and a visibly pregnant black woman was beaten by a group of whites, that this would have garnered much wider media attention and been rightfully classified as a racially-motivated attack?

Hey Polite, anyone who makes a statement that begins "Is there anyone literate enough to read this who doubts..." obviously is not literate enough to understand that that is not a valid form of argumentation. But apparently you are only literate enough to present arguments of that form (roughly equal to "If you don't agwee wit me den you is stoopid") Read a book or two, you're currently only half a tool.

"Argumentation?"

Wait, isn't that the process of making alcoholic beverages that piss you off?

I chortled, myself.

except for the fact that there was no racial epithets made at all even according to the victim. So why is it racist to you?

re-read Polit'e comment. They don't say the author or the article are racist, but rather THE COMMENTERS are.

youngpro aka valeriob, why is it your purpose to follow me on this site. ARe you are fucking lunatic. if i am so unimportant as you stated then respond to someone else and stop stalking me. really Valerie B, are you a psycho?

"and been rightfully classified as a racially-motivated attack?" NO, it won't be rightfully classified as a racially motivated attack since no racial epithets made.

As in the case of the robbery, gang assault on a Mexican, no hate charges made.

http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2010/04/robbery_gang-assault_--_but_no.html

I want everyone to know that I saw Philipecan Tuilin eating street meat on 32nd street on Sunday evening.

There is no mistaking it was him, I have blurry pictures to prove it.

How did the that chicken kebab taste Felix?

omgomgomg btw, how could i forget: super please send those pics!

shanlizzy [at] yahoo [dot] com

I would love to see those pics too. Along with your facebook ones too(felix and devil make them sound awesome, whether they're actually trying to or not).

Philipecan Tuilin LOVES to eat meat. He also loves to 'ride it often'...

http://gothamist.com/2010/06/29/l_train_named_most_romantic_subway.php#comment-2618404

'ARe you are fucking lunatic'

...poetic

nope actually he is also arguing that the original attack is racist note how his imaginary sennario would be "rightfully classified as a racially-motivated attack" but I guess those fake facebook boobs are blocking your view of the last sentence LOL

that makes no sense, felix.

you're killing me. LOL

You're killing yourself? You are very bizarre.

I'm not HandsomeDevil. Gothamist can easily confirm it.

I guffaw at the moral imperiousness of those that accuse the author of race baiting, and think it underscores the disparity and double-standard in crime reporting when the perpetrator and victim are from different races. Is there anyone literate enough to read this who thinks that if the races had been reversed, and a visibly pregnant black woman was beaten by a group of whites, that this would have garnered much wider media attention and been classified as a racially-motivated attack?

Jesus Christ, no wonder Cablevision pulled out from buying this blog. With they type of race-baiting that happens here, I wouldn't want to attribute my company's name to it.

are you saying these events DIDN'T happen?

is the media supposed to only report crimes by whites?

what exactly ARE you saying?

"...certainly not from some rich white bitch with a mad weird growth in her stomach."

If that isn't race baiting, then I don't know what is.

despite your ruffled feathers at JDS's mirroring, the fact remains the events happened and should be reported.

and you may choose to get your information from another source, but i suspect that you are just here to complain and feel holier than thou.

There's a difference between 'reporting' and 'distorting words, phrases and sentences to play on people's common assumptions'

Bah. The race-baiting is my favorite thing about Gothamist.

I am not crazy about this story if the coverage of animal issues wasnt so good I would be pretty mad cause I went to HS 400 and there were plenty of bad kids but we werent all like that and this story is a stereotype

cut their balls off and tie their tubes before they can breed.

If they're older than ten it's too late.

I take back everything I've said before about JDS' humor writing - the 'mad weird growth' line was awesome.

+25

I suppose so, if you're moronic enough to believe that the teenagers involved don't know what pregnancy is and you buy this imagined vernacular as accurate.

Looks like someone's never been on a subway train across from a group of high school kids before.

you don't know what you're talking about.

Haha. Yeah, dude, I don't know what I'm talking about. What do black high school kids say in your neighborhood? "Hark! I do believe, Darnell, that woman passes heavy with child?"

What do black people say in YOUR neighborhood? Apparently you've never been to HS in the NYC you racist slime.

Oh please, these kids are skells. As for Johns writing style with this piece, its no different than when he writes up any other article dripping with sarcasm, but no one complains when its anti-cop/city gov...but these poor innocent high school angels...shame on him!

NO, you do complain when it is truth reporting on police misconduct but you do love these stories, don't you? feeds your racist soul.

oh man, im moving to 17th and irving TOMORROW. I hope I dont get raped.

Hey John, were you sleeping during your Sophomoric Racial Stereotyping Writing for Bloggers 101" course? You can do better than that.....cracka.

Yeah, because the use of terms such as "cracka" don't play into racial stereotypes at all. Pot meet kettle.

Also, are you the guy from Malas Noches?

my non-existing psychic (or psycho, or even better: psychotic) abilities tell me that he may actually be john leguizamo.

shit, 12 am already? *sigh*

goodnight, gothamist. goodnight, commenters.

Pussy.

I call bullshit (Jaya); I went to Friends, too, and nobody fled the premises at 3:10 to avoid Irving kids. We skipped 8th period, went to the park and got high. The only harassment came from crusty homeless dudes.

I also went to Friends for hs, I'm guessing more recently judging from how you mentioned the 90s. While I was there at least one student got robbed by Irving students walking down 16th st on the way to Union sq, and it was regular to be yelled at/ called a cracker/ girls to have nasty comments directed at them. At one point after some violent incident a NYPD detective came and basically told us "if they have just been let out and it is crowded outside, its better to walk around just to be sure."

The part about Friends letting out 10 mins before is half true, if you left after 8th and walked straight to the train there would never be anyone outside Irving since they got let out at a later time. Although I have no idea if that was intentional or not.

Blazing in Sty sq is still standard.

As a Stuyvesant student in the late 80's we frequently had what they called "rapid dismissal "fire" drills" in which at the end of the day the school would tell us to get out of the neighborhood ASAP due to marauding gangs from Washington Irving and sometimes from Brooklyn.

The school basically wanted us to get beatdown away from the building.

And I do remember a few incidents in Stuy Park where W.I. Kids can to shake us down.

Same in my high school in the late 1990s - we'd get dismissed early on days like Halloween and St. Patrick's Day so that kids from MLK Jr. and the nearby projects couldn't chase us down and beat/rob students. LaGuardia wasn't even allowed out for lunch thanks in part to their proximity to MLK Jr.

Which makes no sense - keep the smarter, less violent ones in and let the delinquents out?

Well. Either the 90s were the Golden Age for race relations or my memory is clouded by all those hazy, peaceful afternoons in the park, but in the 14 years I attended school in the area, I can't recall a single instance of a Friends student being harassed (much less assaulted) by an Irving student. Not saying it never happened, but there certainly wasn't a dedicated school policy to help us avoid beat-downs.

Yet again, the left tail of the Bell Curve in action.

I love the fact that some bloggers want to be called journalists, but write pieces like this. And yet some bloggers wonder why they can't get a press pass.

Oh my god the reporting on this is so fucking insanely BAD what the FUCK???? Jesus Christ. This is the worst, most thinly veiled attempt at creating a firestorm in the comments to generate ad revenue that I'V EVER SEEN.

FUCK YOU.

What the hell d'y ah think Gothamist is?

then dont read it LOL

Hey John, were you sleeping during your Sophomoric Racial Stereotyping Writing for Bloggers 101" course? You can do better than that.....cracka.

Hey Benny,

You might like this blog:

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What a bunch of animals. It would be fun to take a stroll by there and smack some sense into those degenerates if I didn't think I would get stabbed or shot to death.

I know you are just trying to make a turn of phrase but people should never be called animals because animals are beautiful and the most vulnerable among us and deserve our special consideration where even young people have brains and consciousnesses and really should know better and you could simply say that instead of using stereotipes

But we are animals. Sometimes you/Felix admit this, sometimes you don't. I guess it just depends on whether it fits in with your/his argument or not. You should really just step away from the keyboard, go outside, get some sunshine, and enjoy life instead of continuously trolling this and, probably, other sites for posts that you can crap on.

I didn't realize handsomedevil was also Felix. Now I know.

oh for goodness sake, at least check your facts before you make such allegations. I am not handsome devil. You can confirm this with gothamist.

I mentioned that before on another thread. Felix has multiple accounts/personalities. It's part of his/their sociopathic dementia.

Give this trash a choice, school or armed forces. I guarantee you that the Army will straighten out this scum or send them to prison.

The gang members that joint he army, leave as gang members, but now with military training and tactics. Won't work for these animals either.

I really don't think we need to give these kinds of thugs (more) weapons with our tax dollars.

can't be as bad as the school in Hell's Kitchen at 50th and 9th.

Agree 100%. They loiter outside local bodegas, blocking traffic flow & looking for trouble. I wish city did away with free metro cards & that vermin stayed in their neighborhoods.

Animals like these prove that not all "students" deserve free metrocards. Free metrocards should be given out based on academic achievement. Students who average a B or above get free metrocards. The rest should pay their own way. Why should the rest of us pay for these animals whose only prospects in life are crime, jail, and welfare fraud?

+1

I used to work in the building on the left in that photo - corner of 16th and right across from the school. We avoided that crowd like the plague -- it's not a school, it's "prep for peneteniary"! A truly lovely crowd.

Prep for Perp?

Oh Boy. Way to get things started John...