*UPDATED* Banksy Gets Dissed

I was in London over Memorial Day and saw a piece of Bansky's on Regent's Canal in Camden Lock and Robbo had hit this one too and painted over Banksy's words but not his stencil. It was only till now that I realized that Robbo is the same guy who tagged the billboards on the BQE. I agree with Paul, at least give us something to look at and not crappy scribbles. This just makes me think Robbo has no talent. The two pieces you can see while driving on the BQE are bad too. In fact, I thought they were some type of corporate advertising trying to be edgy but I was totally lost. Sorry if my street art knowledge isn't up to speed as some of you.

Banksy is a no-one that basically is just famous because brad pitt and angelina jolie like him, but he has not talent at all, seeing as the photo shops all his tencils into the "street art" you all love. Respect to all the stencilists who draw their stencils instead of making them in a engraving laser machine after gray scaling a photo taken by some one else. Most famous street artists just copy, like shepard fairey, basically all of his stuff is unoriginal. Blek le rat is much better than banksy, AND he doesnt use photo shop. Banksy bit him completely, even going as far as too bite his rats. I could'nt live with myself if I was banksy.

It's too bad for anyone who'd like to see Banksy's stuff in person.

Are these shitbirds envious of Banksy? If they had a fraction of his creativity, they might be able to bomb his work and contribute something at the same time. Instead we get scribbles and bad stencils.

It seems those that can... do. Those that can't... destroy

Omar the vandal that dissed Banksy pieces,posted his achievement http://vimeo.com/11927923 .Where's NYPD CITU?

The piece in Dumbo was defaced between 7:45 and 8:30 pm on Sat 05/22. Checked in at the 68 Jay St bar at 7:42 and noticed the Banksy piece, went out, took a picture, decided to leave the bar at around 8:30 and took one look at it was spray painted over with gray paint.

I'm wondering: do "street artists" generally respect other people's work on walls and not write over it? Or do they put their stuff over other people's work regularly?

Or do they only destroy other people's work once a street artist has become famous and they want to make a "statement"?

Writers go over other peoples work if there is beef involved. NYC has no love for Banksy and Shepard Fairey. It has nothing to do with how successful they are.

Its writers talking to each other, not about making a statement. Or maybe the statement is, "Get lost, go back to wherever the fuck you came from, you have no right to NYC wall space. "

thats not writing its Scribbly shit its not talking its more scribbly shit, if you are going to bother and deface someone else's property make somthing cool.

ok well if you think you can do better, take a crack at it. Or are you just one of those people who loves to complain and bitch about what others do but never does anything themselves?

That's hilarious, "right to NYC wall space" - since that wall space is actually someone else's private property. Equal rights to vandalize I say.

Yeah, anyone can vandalize and they do. What is your point?

I think the argument/dialogue among the artists is semi interesting, but to me Bankys' piece I Heart New York with the Stethoscope, says something satiric and wonderful and the rest of the stuff people put over it is just garbage. Perhaps this is the difference between vandalism and art. Maybe part of the discussion is whether the image in question adds something to a conversation about the world we live in or is just someone's ego tagging a wall - but then again, who is allowed to judge what's saying something? Also Banky's image of the unhappy poster guy posting the smiley face's is really thoughtful and from artistic standpoint really well rendered. And to me, this is just untalented taggers getting exposure by defacing a more famous artist. The more banksy stuff i see the more impressed I am with his artistic talents, and his satiric intelligence.

I'm really commenting to all..Banksy is FUN..has a real sense of humor and to some extent, but not as much, Mr. Brainwash and S. Fairey.

I went to see the Banksy downtown and saw it destroyed!!??? Why?? I guess not everyone likes fun.

Lighten up everyone.

Just wanted to smile and now I'm not.

Guys, it's not "great art", just FUN!!

Its beef, you dont understand. If you like banksy go buy his book.

So what bullshit art school did you go to?

more scribbly shite

scribbly scribble scribble

scribbly grey dumb scribbly shit

oh so cool

please use more paint when scribbling and maybe an abstract might appear and look cool....

Mr. Scribbles

Banksy should go back at and redo whatever that got buffed. Would be reminiscent if JA or Cope2 started going over all the "street art" that's out there....

I guess you didnt see the Shepard Fairey piece, there were like 5 Cope fill ins down the side yesterday at 2

WTF are you talking about?!?!

Banksy JA and Cope2 are all very different artists and JA to this day still goes over everyone... but these guys are old. Middle aged men worrying about whether they are respected or dissed is pathetic.

Yeah they are getting up there. But you are wrong to say they care about beef anymore. They do what they do and people still have beef with them but they just ignore it and keep going.

Love it! I'm for anyone who buffs bullshit "street art" no matter how terrible they are.

someone needs to tell emjay that water can, in fact, be counted. one acre foot, two acre foot, so on and so on .....

dogs are better at this.

"It's kind of laughable to think that Henry = Poster Boy."

But since henry has been put in jail there have been no clever ad mashups. the "new" work they posted is nothing like "posterboy".

When will they stop this senseless douche on douche violence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6awZUwVTKc

So, here's the thing. Most art is bad. Your grandmother's a nice lady, but her paintings of her three poodles...they're not good. I'm glad she enjoys painting, but I wouldn't hang it on my wall.

Street "art" is just like regular art -- most of it sucks hairy gorilla balls. Except no one gets to decide whether to hang it on their wall -- the "artist" just says "here you go, it's a picture of my poodles. Enjoy!" (Well, except it's more like: "Yo, here's my expression of how I's wuz raised to live a thug live. Perth Amboy 4-ever, Holmes!")

Sometimes, of course, it's amazing -- and some of Banksy's stuff has been really good. And I get the argument that we need unfiltered art in order to really allow experimentation -- and that by allowing both Banksy and the Perth Amboy Gangsta to plaster their work everywhere, we get the good that we might not otherwise see, even if it's in a sea of horse shit.

But, dude, it's someone else's fucking wall -- and if they'd rather not have to look at your fucking poodle painting...they shouldn't have to look at your fucking poodle painting.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2009/10/04/129-banksy/

Can someone please explain to me why graffiti on top of graffiti is considered destroying/vandalizing.

Isn't....that...the whole idea to begin with? Layering all of a sudden creates anger?

ZOMG did they run out of pbr too!?!1

So can someone please explain the meaning of emjay defining a mass noun on the DUMBO piece?? Im lost...

At least ruin it in a creative way instead of just scribbling...

Graffiti's meant to be covered up and drawn over again and again.

It will begin with white paint and that white will get replaced by the work of whoever decides to apply some sort of sticky adhesive substance with a certain shade of color on it. Then that work will be altered and replaced over and over again. Take a photo of it, maybe purchase the wall and move it to a gallery, but either way that wall is going to be replaced and covered up with the work, musings, shit and fucking offs of many others to come.

I get a little retaliation but really? Tagging every single one with mindless scribbles? You impose yourself then leave no comparative work.

Im not the world's biggest Banksy fan but this Omar character is a jerkoff. And probably Muslim.

I'm not expert at this, but I thought I understood the idea that putting up over someone else's work was part of the game. So, if I'm correct, what's the big deal here? Is it because Banksy has been elavated to this near diety-like status?

Does Banksy care that people have tagged over his stuff? If not, then why do we?

It will only end when you stop constantly reporting on it. BTW Omar is a complete tool. I know this for a fact.

Thanks. This made my week. Especially "some weird guy's face".

Banksy? Are we still waiting for the new millenium?

Boo hoo. If Banksy stuck his paintings in a gallery instead of ruining other people's property, this wouldn't happen.

Enjay, posterboy, etc...

thanks for ruining it for the rest of us. you have zero creativity and come out looking petty and jealous. congrats.

What's with all the overspray on the free henry piece!! It's stuff like that that give stencil artists a bad name. Use a bigger piece of card next time.

jesus.. bunch of white kids who think they are so "street"

tired of it.

I like how each piece shows a lot of thought and depth, not to mention artistic skill!

It's really groovy how they choose to display their 'art' in public places too that way it's free for everyone to admire.

people sure are jealous of this Banksy fellow, hm?

"Artistic" analogue to a schoolyard staring contest - cretins.

i love this.. cant remember the last time there was such a quick turnaround like this. keep it up :)

http://vizieone.com/2010/04/26/i-feel-like-im-taking-crazy-pills/

weak. if the unoriginal bastards were so intent on riding Banksy's coattails, they could at least have put some thought into it.

first of all, how is this considered graffiti vs. street art? it's more like street art vs. street art (as gay as it gets)

lol. 'LIGHTNING BOLT!'

All things are temporary, fluid.

that's some nice 'stencil' work, posterboy. that really hits the 'stencil' nail on the head; now when i think of 'stencil' - well that will be the first thing to pop into my mind. if i looked up the word 'stencil' in the dictionary, why this is what i would expect to blah blah blah... usarmy blah blah.. fragile blah...dangerexplosives blah property of.. . . .

I saw the girl "enjay" (image: http://www.banksyvault.co.uk/la/tag.jpeg )standing around like a weirdo in the lot with the DUMBO piece around 10pm last night. She was there with a big bag and obviously there for the Banksy wall and I thought she might have been hired to keep an eye on it or some shit but apparently she was waiting around to muck it up.

Nice butt

any more pics of her?

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it was the IRAK boys

If I'm known AND I'm making millions and I tag up a spot, I would EXPECT someone to diss my shit. it's just how it is. Especially in NYC.

I don't necessarily disagree with you sigh, but at least put up something interesting.

A fucking sticker photograph? That's not remotely interesting. Whether you like Banksy or not, at least he's put some effort, not some stupid poster boy stencil.

Didn't I say yesterday that there'd be douchey faces next to the Banksy pieces all over the social media outlets today? mmmmHmmmm!

this is why we can't have nice things.

my thoughts exactly

Once again...proof that we have a lot of artists that just can't cope with other artist's fame & fortune. Instead of showing your baby side by bombing the art you hate to admire just go out an make a name for yourself. You just have to be better (Oh yeah, I forgot that takes talent ingenuity & lots of perseverance) Remember besides the art...it's all marketing.

Andre still has his posse, yo.

Somebody explain to the ignorant how grafitti can be defaced?

this kind of stuff always confused me and just screams of childish jealousy.

you can think someone's art has become fetishized, you can think unequal attention is being paid to 'art school kids', and you think someone's work is lame or unoriginal...

...but the great/democratizing thing about the city and street art is that theres an almost unlimited amount of canvas for you to express yourself...to create your work that you think original/authentic/un-fetishized. career defacers just seem immature.

its the art school hijack of an urban artform. that being said...theres components (such as territorialism) that survived the takeover and shouldnt go away. the purpose of graffiti (or as nytimes readers say...'street art') is certainly not to sell painting to angelina jolie for 2 million dollars...so the scene's pissed at the commercialization (not fetishization) of this medium

i guess...

but why do people get so caught up in this kind of authenticity war. you say the scene has been "hijacked", theres been a "takeover"...its not like people like Banksy are silencing urban graffiti artists. they arent wheat-pasting over classic stuff.

you say the point of the art isnt to sell it celebrities. i dont think thats the point of any of the pieces above. its a consequence or an outcome of it (which is another issue entirely), but that aspect of it doesnt do anything to limit "authentic" artists from putting up their work.

no one, including banksy, is stopping anyone from expressing themselves. its like screaming nonstop at someone listening to the black eyed peas. you have every right to think its terrible, commercial, and worthless...but the mature thing to do is create or seek out the things you like.

i agree with you...and the black eyed peas are an excellent example of what im talking about. when i say hijacked...i mean featured at sundance, nytimes, nymag, gothamist, etc. to most people its like 'a whole new artform' a 'revolution in artistic expression' and then so many people get amped on it and think they know everything about it but disregard the past 30 years that built up to this moment.

its like going to that mr.brainwash thing and listening to the questions people ask him. the blend of ignorance and arrogance is astounding.

regardless though...i agree with you and props to both of us for not calling each other names

says you, assface!

Between the article and comments there is a clear non understanding of how the graff community works. They are all beefing all the time. What happened here was more likely some dumb "ironic" hipster wannabe douchebags, and less likely legit writers. If you lot want to go on thinking that you have any insight into this that is fine, I just would not put it in black and white as you are very very wrong.

Um, non of us are legit writers. You certainly aren't - proof read, my friend!

Also "graff community"? UGH!

Writer as in graff writer, as in the people who spray paint walls.

You make no sense. Seriously. Don't overexert yourself. The key to good writing is CLARITY. I might agree with your points if I could understand them.

Actually, I know there are a lot of old-school graffiti writers in the jungle/dnb scene. My assumption is that junglisticman probably knows a lot of them, so he/she probably knows what's up. Keep in mind that mistakes in spelling/grammar don't equate to a lack of intelligence.

Ah, junglisticMAN = probably male. Heh...my bad.

yes non understanding? What did you miss there. And yes writer what did you miss there? And yes it is a community. Obviously your desire to know something about everything has eclipsed your rational side. You do not need to always have an opinion, and there is not always a need to think you are right.

Close friends of my are immersed in this community. You ever been to funland in Queens? If not go and start to learn about the community before making a snarky cynical comment on something you know nothing about.

Wait... so there can be 'street-art' symposiums and the likes but when someone uses the term graff-community, that's deplorable?

this is nothing new. celebrity street artists get hated on in new york city. it makes sense...but its all sort of ridiculous as the whole scene (not just the top players) appear to have been jacked by over privileged art school kids as opposed to its original roots in the hiphop community.

whatever though...ive drank the kool-aid for a long time. banksy's brilliant

I wish this was as interesting as it was, what? 5 years ago?

It's funny

I would bet none of you exist

You all must get spit on a lot

I know when I sense people with no souls that only spout cynicism (the adulthood refuge for the naive as you all know too well) I spit on them all they way to their little crack in the wall.

10? 15? 20?

yawn.....

you guys are just so cool.

try 30-35

but infants are always amused by primary colours and shiny things.

Poster boy is reportedly in rikers for the next 11 months by order of a Brooklyn judge. Guess this is the first of many street team stencils we will be seeing

http://gothamist.com/2010/05/17/poster_boy_is_almost_free.php

Wait, I thought graffiti was "street art" & a welcoming, loving artistic community? Oh I guess it is a bunch of vandals. I'm shocked, SHOCKED that this happened.

you don't see the artistic value of scribbling over a stencil and putting decals on a wall?

what sort of philistine are you?! these artists are the michelangelos and giottos of our time!

That didn't take long at all. Wow. First Shepard Fairey, now Banksy...

That can not happen, he would need to actually be creative for that to happen!

CAP did it!

hahah good one