*sad

you know give me a job and i wouldnt mind paying rent... ive worked all my life lost my job lost my unemployment lost my apartment now i have to go to a homeless shelter where did all my tax money go to now that i need help i cant get any this city is so fucked up and its said that you pay all these taxes and when you the one that needs the hlep you cant find it

"You will be assigned an activity"

To me that sounds like a week job market shouldn't be an issue, they will be giving people work who can't find it themselves. I would assume it would be along the lines of what the John Doe Fund does with their "Ready Willing and Able" program, street sweeping and the like.

If this is the case, if everyone who can not secure their own work is assigned tasks, then i don't understand the case against requiring people to work in exchange for shelter, it is what the rest of us have to do.

ew. homeless people are gross. why do they all smell like piss???

mature.

not all of them smell like piss, some smell like shit & feet

well, yes getting a job is the goal but it's no doubt difficult.

might be good though for the library I work at.

a few homeless people come in and stay almost the entire time we are open.

sometimes it can get stinky on a hot day :(

-Frustrate enough of the folks in the system to give up and move in with family/friends or move out of NY.

-Homeless population goes down.

-Bloomberg reports new work/rent policy is working.

-Problem solved.

how you gonna live if you don't give?

how you gonna give if you ain't got?

how you gonna get if you can't do?

how you gonna do if you don't try?

how you gonna try if you don't want?

how you gonna want if you don't know?

how you gonna know if you don't learn?

how you gonna learn if you don't eat?

how you gonna eat if you don't work?

how you gonna work if you don't sleep?

how you gonna sleep if you don't live somewhere?

- Frank Brunson, "How You Gonna Live"

as much as Diamond sounds like a dick, there is belt-tightening going on across the board not just social services. advocates of any stripe will spin their yarn no matter what economic climate.

so where is the local money reasonably supposed to come from -- first responders? education? sanitation? its too easy to say, "hey there are rich people in the hamptons! let's get'em!"

You know who else should work for a living? the upper class folks who were born into money and never worked a day for it.

I defy anyone to spend time with poor or homeless folks who are living it up on your dime! and then spend a day out in the hamptons and then tell me who is working less.

oh I know, I know, poor people are poor cause they're lazy, not cause of the vag they came out of.

Have you ever been to a city homeless shelter? (or the Hamptons?)

The homeless at any given (single, mens) shelter are usually a combination of 1/3 mental disorders, 1/3 drug dependencies, and 1/3 jackasses/criminals. Asking people to perform some sort of work or task in return for food and a bed is not only reasonable, but more respectful to a human being than giving them a handout.

you're right.

'Asking people to perform some sort of work or task in return for food and a bed is not only reasonable, but more respectful to a human being than giving them a handout.'

I agree with you.

I was ranting against the idea, maybe off topic that 'if these people just worked harder' than wouldn't be poor. When I see more as a matter of fate, and consequences you never fully control.

c'est la vie.

hello, who will hire them? When there are no jobs as it is? maybe Bloomberg shouldn't doled out all the contracts out of state and overseas and hire New Yorkers. Maybe he shouldn't give our money to all his friends and developers without requiring them to hire hard to place people?

yes, awesome logic. we should have doled out the subway and DOT contracts to homeless people, many of whom have zero experience in building anything, let alone holding engineering degrees, so that the money we saved in cheap labor would have only meant massive project delays and a much bigger cost to the city.

in those crazy socialist countries, they work with companies to to hire people who are disabled, sick, poor, by having the govt pay a portion of their salary.

what they wind up getting is low unemployment. say 2%-4% in danmark. the price is high taxes, say 50%. eventually under a system like that homelessness as we know it ceases to exist. places like the hamptons would also disappear.

yes, government jobs as in cleaning parks, working in cross walks, or sweeping streets and schools...NOT building engineering like subways and buildings.

If there is something that is sure to bring back the "bad old times" it's cutting social services. Force people to rely on crime to stay alive.

Beds in homeless shelters are cheaper than beds in prisons.

That picture really ties the article together.

In Roman times, poor people could sell themselves into slavery to make some cash. Maybe we should bring that back.