Bloomberg Wants Arizona to "Get Real" About Immigration

If that's the way the Mayor feels , Then He should resign as Mayor of NYC . Being the fact that he swindled the appropriate parties into getting that legislation passed allowing him to repeat as Mayor . Without a fair , Unbiased Election process . Until that happens , Fuck Bloomberg !

Your mother was not native maybe black. I love how you idiots are of a sudden classified yourself as native when immigration issue is brought up. LMFAO

Gloomberg is the wrong person to make a comment.

He plays into the agenda perfectly.

a billionaire who has lost touch with the reality of the average american citizen who doesnt have servants and limos.

People standing up for themselves in south america usually means a revolution, so if they stay in their countries and stand up for themselves its usally a civil war, coup or mass uprising that is bloody, changes nothing or quickly squashed.

our own revolution wasnt as pretty as the textbooks make it, and theres the inconvenient facts that the country was found for and by slaveowners.

bloomberg is the wrong person to speak, a klepotract aristrocat autocrat who benefits from the divisions of the real working class, exploitation of resources uncluding human capital.

wars keep people rich, no matter how you word it, someone will always make money on the coffins or bullets or bombs, in south and central america all the decades of uprisings and war, everything stays the same for the average poor person. the trick is coming to america to liveon a bunk bed and send most of your money home is a dream. you cant live on that here except if your an immigrant and theres plenty more people back home in the village who can live on your meager wages.

the real enemy is the rich and the system created to keep them rich, us poor and perpetuate the entire farce.

Why is no one speaking about the very real issues of human trafficking? Many of the "illegal immigrants" are in fact people who were tricked and then forced to work, for minuscule or even no wages. Women and children are forced into prostitution or (if they're lucky) into involuntary servitude-better known as slavery. And the issue of narco-trafficking and the accompanying violence is also glossed over by politicians attempting to paint this as a civil rights issue. Many economic immigrants are coerced into acting as drug mules by coyotes (the term used in Mexico for human smugglers) as a condition of being brought into the US.

The US has opted to maintain a permanent underclass to sustain our economy so I really shouldn't be surprised.

The illegal aliens living in the USA are working class people.

The teabaggers and anti-migration screamers are working class people.

Bloomberg and other corporate figures (and the politicians on both sides of the fray who serve at their pleasure) are not working class people.

In fact, the only ones who benefit from this division of the various working classes are the barons of capital and the neo-aristocracy (like Bloomberg and his various shills).

When will the working class wake up and realize who the real enemy is?

again with the quinn thing.

HEY FELIX:

btw, a PETOPIA is opening on the bottom-level space on my e. 14th street apartment building!!!! i'm psyched!!@@@!@!@!

I am so happy our local officials are dealing with Arizona's issues since they resolve all of NYC's problems (homelessness, affordable housing, jobs, corruptions, slush funds, Christine Quinn's slush funds etc)

Just a few questions for everyone:

1) What can't immigrants come over here legally? There are plenty of ways to do this without being a burden on legal taxpayers.

2) Why can't immigrants stand up for themselves in their own country to make it better so there's no need to come here?

3) How would you feel if you invited a few friends over to your apartment, thinking about 20 would show up, and then over 200 people showed up, and you knew only 15 of them? Would you be gracious to every single one of them, or would you throw your non-friends out?

Great questions! Let me take a stab at them...

1. Statistically, legal US citizenship is nearly impossible (especially from Mexico). It takes years, money, and a long wait list. This is also a burden on legal taxpayers (though not at the same scale as illegal residents.) Plenty of people come over here legally, but not as citizens with Visas. This grants them some rights, but not all of the ones that we enjoy as US Citizens. They also have to leave the country at some point.

2. We are lucky in the US to have freedom and democracy. It required a revolution. There are revolutions in many countries, often at the cost of its citizens' freedom. They have to ask themselves if "standing up for themselves" is worth the risk to their lives, their families' lives and whether or not it would actually be effective. (Poverty in these types of countries is rampant and does a great job of discouraging revolutions.)

3. Since my house can hold far more than 200 people (more like 200,000 if we use the right ratio!) and a lot of these uninvited guests have been here for decades, I would probably not kick them out. Especially if their only offense was showing up uninvited to my awesome party!

Nice answers and nice house. I have no problem with uninvited guests that don't cause problems (as long as they also count themselves so that we have enough drinks to go around), but the ones that cause problems or are there to contribute nothing but take everything must go.

Uh, America isn't a house party. Might as well say how about if you were trying to build a barn & you expected 15 people & 200 showed up. Or you were trying to run a lemonade stand or...whatever?

You're right, America is not a house party, but then again, there are 2 other questions posted. Why can't they come here legally? What's so wrong with that? Plus, why can't they make their own countries better, thereby making their own lives better without having to move so far away from their families?

I'm just asking these questions. I really have no defined stance on the matter because I enjoy the oodles of ethnicities that make up our country. I know that my ancestors on my father's side were from Scotland, while my mother's side seem to have been native.

Also, building a barn requires Amish people. What's that got to do with anything? :)

It'll be struck down by the courts. Arizona is just following Texas's path of fake legislative action for the sake of someone's political gain, that gets altered by the courts which do the real legislating. This thing is a poison pill that keeps the checks comin' over at Republican Shitbag Headquarters.

This is 100% correct and one of the few comments that makes any sense on this article. Every court ruling, notably INS v. Chadha, notes that immigration is a national issue to be governed by the feds for unanimity.

This law is a joke to pander to that particular political movement (of inbred know-nothings) that gets all riled up about issues that they invent (guns, illegal immigration, "high" taxes, "big" govt., etc).

Bloomberg is obviously clueless about the illegal alien problem in AZ which is a lot worse than what NYC is suffering now. Arizona IS getting real about illegal immigration, hence their tougher laws. I applaud them for standing up against a dysfunctional federal govt that refuses to do its job and enact its own laws. I plan on patronizing several Arizona-based businesses to show my support.

Bloomberg should get real and STFU.

My friend Oscar Vasquez is a US college-educated engineer and was deported because he can't legally work here. Article here. (Warning, it's a little too emotive for me, but it's a personal profile so there you go.)

We are quickly forfeiting our status as a world power for this very reason. Bloomberg gets it.

NO ONE CARES

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

This is what we in the business call a backhanded compliment: you cared enough to post a response ipso facto you engaged & care. The ALL CAPS tastes extra sweet!

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My friend Oscar Vasquez is a US college-educated engineer and was deported because he can't legally work here. Article here. (Warning, it's a little too emotive for me, but it's a personal profile so there you go.)

We are quickly forfeiting our status as a world power for this very reason. Bloomberg gets it.

Sorry, he voluntarily left. He was not at all deported.

damn, if you guys hate him so much, how'd he get elected a third time?

Um, the other voters?

Bloomie is pandering to hispanic voters (legals) which this city is full of. He has said before that this city "depends" on its illegal immigrants, would collapse without them. Huh? Depends on them for what? Their cheap labor? If they are given amnesty, they will have rights and be covered by labor laws and might not be so cheap anymore.

Let me see, there's about a couple dozen people that post here and a few million people who vote in the city. Time to take a remedial math class maybe.

he only won by less than 5 percent. and he's a Businessman,

A Businessman I say!! We need a Businessman in the office.

Bloomberg's a fool.

Honestly, I have nothing against illegal immigrants. Their only wish is to find a better life for themselves and for that, I don't blame them for taking a chance (This is the land of opportunity after all). Most are very hard working and don't take for granted the opportunities this country gives them, like most of us do on a daily basis.

For those illegals that have been living here for a while, give them amnesty. Clamp down the boarders then after than, but its ridiculous to launch a campaign to deport the millions that are already here.

Except the ones that commit crimes. Yes. Boot them out.

Hear, hear!

I wish we could do the same thing to citizens who commit crimes...exile is so old fashioned, but call me anachronistic!

Mayor,

I am sure the low-cost nannies, cleaning ladies and gardeners make your life better. The ill-educated legally naturalized and native born have their wages crimped by these illegals. The middle class gets the burden of paying for the schools and hospitals for the illegals while you shelter your earning overseas and in tax shelters.

We do need highly skilled immigrants the add immediately to the economy what we do not need is 10,8MM poorly educated people who do not follow the law having large and costly families at the expense of the city, state and nation.

Mexico protests but its immigration laws are truly draconian. Let's have a civil discussion based on facts and costs; not emotion.

What are the absurd generalizations:

Illegals provide cheap labor for the UES, Greenwich and the Hamptons.

The illegals work for the less than the upset wage that Americans would accept. The plutocrats always say no American wants these jobs; should be rephrased to say, no American would work these jobs for low wages and poor working conditions.

The wealthy don't shelter their income. Do you think the people who work cleaning up Greenwich live in Green wich. No they live in Bridgeport. So ladies who lunch style while the costs of carrying illegals in local schools and health clinics is born by Bridgeport residents.

Illegals have large families; take the bus or subway. Maybe you might visit Brownsville or the Bronx (sorry you probably grew up in Iowa - the Bronx is where the poors live).

Riiiigghhht, so people who don't agree with your bigoted ignorant views must be from Iowa. Sorry, a$$wipe, but I'm from here.

That is such a disgusting and absurd generalization.

Another limousine liberal who fails to grasp the meaning of the word "illegal".

I wish the IRS were as cavalier at applying tax law as the federal government is when it comes to enforcing immigration law.

Yet another idiot who can't tell the difference between "illegal" & "smart," between "illegal" & "unethical," between "illegal" & "there are millions of undocumented immigrants & wishing really hard that there were only white people isn't a realistic strategy to dealing with them."

More to the point, Arizona just made a law saying brown people are second class citizens. Heads up, it is kind of a mess.

The only thing second class is your brain and powers of reason. No, make that third class.

NO YOUR BUTT IS THIRD CLASS. Seriously, if this was the school yard that "burn" would get boo'd. Yawn. Then again, I guess it is hard thinking up new reasons to be afraid of brown people every day.

Typical teabag drivel again, completely ignoring the big picture.

Not withstanding your xenophobic views, let's start with WHY there are shortages of jobs for the entire middle class to begin with.

That's an easy one. Those jobs went overseas with our manufacturing base....weak labor laws, no lawyers, low taxes, weak environmental protections and no welfare state.

But dammit if that same middle class doesn't like buying that shit by the pickup load.

what i really like is your obvious cleverness.

liberal? democrat?

last time i checked fellas Bloomie was an Independent. and before that he was Republican. oh and before that he was a Democrat. his record is hardly easily classified, except for pursuing his own egotistical goals.

keep spewing your knee-jerk soundbites, but lets at least TRY sticking to the facts.

It's the lower middle class that has to compete with illegals for jobs. The lower middle class that has its wages depressed by illegals working off the books for little money. As you may have noticed, Bloomberg is not in the lower middle class. He can afford to be magnanimous when it comes to illegal immigration. For him, all it means is cheaper domestic help.

Whatever party Bloomie associates himself with this week, he's a liberal, albeit on fiscal matters he has some common sense. As for sticking to the facts, I never even mentioned party affiliation. Maybe you should actually read my post before knee jerking off.

"last time i checked fellas"

"fellas" as in both of you, dumbass. now go back to your Glen Beck or Limbaugh program, someone's got to do your thinking for you.

Put down the bong. Your comments will improve.

Agreed.

If the Dems want to repeat the '94 blowout, they'll make the mistake of pursuing amnesty.