City Council Okays Changes To Carriage Horse Industry

Attention: Animal idiots! Get over it, the carriage business is here to stay. People do come before animals, some of you cannot understand that. Quinn would look foolish allowing people to lose their livelihood so a horse can hang out and do nothing. Bottom line is , it cost money to properly care for horses. All of you who think the councilmen were out of line. The reason you think that is because you are not playing with the same

deck of cards as the rest of the human race.

I am sickened by the passage of Intro 35A. Are the City Council members unconscious? The carriage horse industry in NYC is an abomination. Many of these horses are serving a second or third lifetime of service to man, who forces him to negotiate unyielding city traffic, for nine hours per day, in all sorts of temperature extremes, generally with the ultimate "reward" of "retirement" to the slaughterhouse. This relic needs to be abolished, replaced with electric antique cars (as is proposed) and the horses sent to sanctuaries to live out their lives in peace.

And, animal cruelty aside, this industry is responsible for dozens of horrific accidents in the past several years.

Shame on the forty members of the Council who have just given the industry carte blanche.

The passage of this bill will not deter us in our efforts to abolish this archaic and brutal industry.

The passage of the industry's carriage horse bill is the result of Speaker Christine Quinn's (ab)use of taxpayer's (read:"her") money and power to control votes in the City Council...(and what about that slush fund, so quickly hushed up after Bloomberg was re-elected, thanks to Quinn's role in eliminating the term limits). Talk about "quid pro quo"!!! It will be the final nail in her coffin (and Bloomberg's)...She has blocked and never allowed any pro-animal bills to come up for a vote; she "conspired" with Bloomberg to over-ride twice voted for term limits so that he could run again, and so that she would have the field open to her for a Mayoral bid in the next election. Quinn has got to be put out to pasture and the carriage horses with her. We have had enough!

and then they give those low life drivers a raise on top of allowing them to exploit and abuse these animals? completely ridiculous.

Quinn's council has given a rate increase to the carriage horse industry, a cash only off the books business. In addition, it is now legal for horses to be worked until the age of 26 which is 80 in human years.

Shame on them. I don't see how this helps the city or the horses.

There needs to be laws in place to protect carriage drivers from harassment by peta scum, as seen in their own "under cover" videos.

Queens City Council Member Gennaro, who received CONTRIBUTIONS totaling over 6,500 dollars push this bill to reward bad behaviors and NO reform for the care of the horses. Per his own quote he states I am grateful to those in the animal rights community, the horse carriage industry and equine specialists who worked with the Council and the Bloomberg Administration to craft the humanitarian and economic reforms that are central to this bill – the most comprehensive reform of the industry in more than twenty years.”

YET THERE IS NO REAL REFORM AND NOT ONE ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP SUPPORTS HIS BILL. GENNARO IS A LIAR AND THIS IS WHY HE WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE IN HIS UPCOMING ELECTIONS.

Also no improvement in their warehouse converted stables with no fire safety (sprinklers) nor adequate space for the horses to turn around and lay. And after years of abuse, the horses will be send to slaughter to be hit with bolted gun on their heads.

To add insult to injury, Speaker Quinn and Queens city council member Gennaro will reward the drivers' bad behaviors and yet the taxpayers bears the cost of cleaning up the manure in the streets, pays for the water in the troughs, pays for the congestion caused by the carriage, pays for the limited oversight and endangers the safety of drives and pedestrians.

The vote is fix, there is no democracy in this city. Speaker Quinn fast tracked this bill to prevent organized opposition. Where is the Dept of Justice? Speaker Quinn should be in jail for the slush funds and overturning the will of the people to guaranteed herself a life long pension courtesy of the taxpayers.

At Stated Council meeting, the members of the City Council passed legislation INTRO. 35, an industry back bill that will increase the rate of the carriage drivers with NO reforms for the care of the horses. Speaker Quinn and Gennaro, who received money from this industry, are disguising this bill as reform with lame provisions of blankets and 5 weeks vacation. Yet horses DO NOT NEED blankets and the 5 week vacations will be unenforceable and doesn't change the horses' work conditions.

The corrupt council refuses to make any real reforms such as restricting the horses to the park, limiting their hours of operations, requiring a mandatory retirement home, and including the humidity and wind shield factor in the temperature gauge factor. So the horses will continue to pass out during the summer, some will die, and will continue to work in congested spots such as Time Square till 2 AM.

Hey assholes, have you read the bill?

It harms the horses greatly. There is nothing in it that will help the horses. This bill perpetuates a cycle of cruelty.

It also supports a corrupt, cash-only industry.

Horses don't fucking need summer camp. They need daily turnout.

VISIT WEST SIDE LIVERY, AT 538 W. 38TH STREET. A HELL-HOLE.

And... do you expect NEW, roomy stables to be built? dream on, suckers.

5 week vacation ROFLMAO!

You are gonna get unemployed people looking to pull carriages :o)

Yeah: 5 weeks vacation - IN THE COUNTRY no less.



Meanwhile 120-pound humans in Asia are pulling humans around in rickshaws for $3 a day, yet 1200 pound horses in America are getting sent to summer camp.

These PETAphiles should re-direct their energy.

"The new changes don't sit well with groups like NY Friends and Animals, however—one member said, "There is simply no way to make the industry in New York City healthy and humane for horses. It just simply can't be done."

Meanwhile, dogs sit in tiny apartments, cooped up like lab mice, with no room to run and exercise.

meanwhile, many people - actual people - who are ill-equipped to take care of themselves are sleeping on the street, in subways, atm vestibules, and parks. i'm glad the horses are getting their 'vacations'.