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Williamsburg Dead Last in Census Returns

040710jesuscensus.jpg Mayor Bloomberg posted this chart of neighborhood Census response rates today, and it puts Williamsburg last with just 31.3% participation. In fact, many Brooklyn neighborhoods are among the lowest participants, with Erasmus, Bedford, and Borough Park all ranking in the low 30s. Too bad, Williamsburg; now you'll never get the state funding for all those food stamps.

Queens' Ft. Totten-Bay had the highest return rate at 62.9%, but Manhattan had the highest participation of any borough with 54%. The Mayor's office has been furiously tweeting all day with encouraging words like "NYers have nothing to fear: #Census forms won’t be shared with others." Bloomberg also warned in his press release, “A low response rate could have very serious consequences for our city—for each person who is not counted in the census, the City loses about $3,000 in Federal aid every year, money that could be spent on services our communities all want and need."

Actress Rosario Dawson is even getting in on the movement; she will be lighting up the Empire State building Red, White and Blue this Friday to celebrate the 2010 Census “March to the Mailbox” campaign. So what's it gonna take, Williamsburg? Clearly Karl Rove and free can openers aren't doing it for you. Does Yo La Tengo need to film a Census PSA?

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  • LB

    Just tell the jews if they fill out the form and mail it in they get free money back ! And another house to fill with their off spring !

  • NannyState

    If anyone here gets a gig as a Census Taker and walks into a sexy situation, you are obligated by federal law to report about it here.

  • mingusahum

    If there's sexy going on I think that as a census worker i'll have to immediately add one future resident to their household.

  • Pachinko

    Nothing to worry about? Yeah, like anyone trusts government anymore. And demanding by law to answer questions about race doesn't help either.

  • spiritross

    I'll never understand why the carpetbaggers don't care about their community.

    They don't vote

    They don't fill out their census forms



    This is their home, are they too good for their home.



    Oh and all that whining about bike lanes and concert venues etc etc - guess what - if you don't participate you don't get to complain.

  • mingusahum

    thanks dude, i took the test today and believe i passed (which means i completed 7th grade). they quoted 18.75 an hour, i'm definitely down to work 6 hours on a weekend for a cool hundred bucks.

  • mingusahum

    Has anyone ever worked as a census taker in Williamsburg?



    I'm going to take the test today, they pay pretty well was wondering if anyone had any insight...

  • bucephalus

    The hourly rate is great, but you'll be lucky to work more than a half a dozen hours per week (which is why the pay is so great in the first place).

  • Greenpoint60

    carry a stick to beat off the rats in those lofts

  • NannyState

    And use plenty Purell.

  • potsmoker

    If nothing else, the Census Bureau has succeeded in reminding us why the wise founders of this country saw fit to severely limit the rights of the federal government and vest in the states authority to make all laws in matters that are not expressly reserved to the federal government in the Constitution. And in alerting us to the danger of the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 to those who might dare to incur the wrath of the New World Order.



    Do you want the largest defense contractors in the world to have precise geographic data for you and your family that can be aggregated with all the data the federal government has accessible, including the digital health care records which will be required with “health reform?”

  • potsmoker

    Red List - People on the Red List will be immediately exterminated, these are enemies of the New World Order who are in leadership or public positions. Mirroring the strategy employed in Nazi Germany, two weeks before instituting Martial Law, these people will be dragged from their homes in the middle of the night and flown to FIMA camps to be exterminated.



    Blue List - Also enemies of the NWO but not necessarily leaders. These people will be rounded up after the imposition of martial law and will be "re-programmed" in the concentration camps where they will also be used for slave labor. Most will not survive.



    Yellow List - these are people who are ignorant and do not care about the NWO who are likely to do whatever they are ordered to do.

  • potsmoker

    On Dec. 9, 1941, two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Census Bureau produced a report titled, "Japanese Population of the United States, Its Territories and Possessions." The next day it issued a report on the Japanese population by citizenship and place of birth in selected cities. The next day it published another report, this one on the Japanese population by counties in states on the West Coast. All reports were based on data from the 1940 census.



    Capt justified the speed with which the bureau produced these reports by saying at meeting of the Census Advisory Committee in January 1942: "We didn't want to wait for the declaration of war. On Monday morning we put our people to work on the Japanese thing."



    The United States declared war on Japan that Monday afternoon.

  • Greenpoint60

    You forgot to mention the 1,500 US citizens who died while interned by Japan during the war. Our people were starved and abused by Tokyo

  • potsmoker

    i guess nobody noticed that Joseph and Mary participated in the census, dont be afraid.



    strange because my understanding, correct me bible freaks if im wrong, is that King Herod ordered the slaughter of hundreds of babies to get the prophesized messiah???



    the nazis used a census....worked out for them...



    the Census Bureau was deeply involved in the roundup and internment of Japanese Americans at the onset of U.S. entry into World War II.



    The academics say the Census Bureau's involvement included identifying concentrations of people of Japanese ancestry in geographic units as small as city blocks, lending a senior Census Bureau official to work with the War Department on the relocation program and a willingness to disclose names and address of Japanese Americans.



    the US Census Bureau provided such detailed information as well as age, sex, citizenship and country of birth to the War Department, now the Defense Department, on only one group -- Japanese Americans



    Statistics and Data Mining are a great thing, get ready when big brother comes a knockin...they already figured out who you voted for, what movies you rent, what blogs you comment on, your definately on a list of troublemakers and they have camps set up for you...

    Over 800 concentration camps are reported throughout the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive U.S. Prisoners who disagree with the government. The concentration camps are all staffed and manned by full-time guards, however, they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) when Martial Law is implemented in the United States (at the stroke of a Presidential pen and the Attorney General's signature on a warrant).



    The camps have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities, many have airports. Like Auschwitz, some of the camps have airtight buildings and furnaces. The majority of the camps can each house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive "mental health" facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.



    Following the Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Kellogg Brown and Root) announcement on Jan. 24 that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps, two weeks later, on Feb. 6, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced that the Fiscal Year 2007 federal budget would allocate over $400 million to add 6,700 additional detention beds (an increase of 32 percent over 2006. What is interesting in the Homeland Security plan is that each concrete prison bed costs $60,000 per bed! Observing these concentration camps and general jail and prison facilities throughout the U.S., the Homeland Security plan is clearly buffered to build significantly more than 6,700 additional beds





  • robindustry

    Yeah. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the infamous 11211 Post Office. I've received 3 census forms delivered to Apt 5F. I live in Apt 1A.

  • S.K.

    Can't the gov't combine tax forms with census sheets? Everyone must pay their taxes, and the gov't gets much of its information about us through our tax forms.

  • jaycjay

    " Everyone must pay their taxes"



    In fact, many people don't have to file federal tax returns, and many people who do don't file them by mail (at the encouragement of the IRS). Among those people who do, many share a home so you'd be introducing a very likely possibility of overcounting.



    Simply put, an absolutely impractical idea.

  • Darrell

    Yeah but then the IRS would have to be responsible for the census, which is sort of a strange combination, plus only taxes 10 years apart would have the census form. Then again the treasury is the unit containing the Secret Service. Kind of sucks to go into the treasury looking to go blow in doors in the Secret Service SWAT and end up sitting around the white house all day.

  • The US Gov't isn't quite responsible for sending out duplicate Census forms. The Ad agency who was responsible for the mailings was/is DraftFCB—blame them.

  • Greenpoint60

    Smart trick, bill US gov twice for the fucking mailing

  • Greenpoint60

    In the 1850 Census they counted my ancestors on long sheets, one census taker filled in the data for the whole community. (This was in Ohio & Indiana)

  • matty

    Shows that many are probably transients, or lazy, or both.

  • People who lack basic civic responsibility burn me up.

  • Greenpoint60

    Mordicai, Lets say there is a jumbo loft in Willimsburg, how many forms would you send per floor? 100?

  • http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/questions.php



    There are still 2010 Census forms being mailed out, so it is likely that you will receive one in the mail. If you do, please fill it out and mail it back right away. If you want to make sure you are counted, you can pick up a Be Counted form at one of our Questionnaire Assistance Centers. To find the center nearest you, please visit the Take 10 Map. If you have not received a 2010 Census form by April 12, call 1‐866‐872‐6868 and we will either take your information over the phone or send you a form by mail. Rest assured that we are going to make sure you are counted in the 2010 Census. Beginning in May, we will be sending hundreds of thousands of census takers to every neighborhood in the country to count each housing unit that has not returned a census form.

  • sovietsonja

    I know it's real fun to mock lazy trust fund babies, but since Boro Park is also way behind, it's likely the Hasidim and not the hipster hordes who've failed their civic duty. it's really a shame too, since those families trend toward the enormous and often rely on social programs-I would say send in the census workers!!! except all the census workers are probably unemployed hipsters...so maybe not

  • jaycjay

    The deadline is April 15th, which isn't clearly stated on the form. So on that note, it's not really a big deal that many aren't in but I suspect that there would be more if the deadline had been very clearly specified. As it is, they'll have to make an effort to publicize that deadline over the next week or so.



    It also wasn't clearly spelled out that you could send it in as soon as you received it. The questions were all posed along the lines of "a person who is staying here on April 1." That should have said "is or will be" or something similar. As it was worded, it encouraged people to wait until April 1, and even implied that it shouldn't be sent in until that date.



    I mean how would I have been able to predict that until I knew I wasn't going to step in front of a bus on March 31?

  • Darrell

    Simple, new buildings don't get census forms until people bitch about it to the government. That's why census returns are so low around the city because new buildings didn't get counted on the mail out list. My family lives in a new building, no census so now we have to ask the government for one.

  • frankenzilla

    How many people who are afraid of being somehow outed by census forms follow the mayor on Twitter?

  • Greenpoint60

    The census takers are going to have to go into those rat infested lofts and count these scuzzy hipsters. I don't envy a census takers job.

  • H.W. Fowler

    They sent census forms to apartments that don't exist in my building. As far as I know, nobody has ever lived in the basement so that form isn't going to get filled. Multiply that across every building in the city, I'm sure that lowers the percentages drastically.

  • hard times

    can't wait until they do return them, and you see that there are more Hispanic, Polish, and Jewish people in the neighborhood than "hipsters!"

  • Greenpoint60

    The Hispanics have mobilized support. They want to maximize(supersize) their numbers.

  • Global Wombat

    The point of the story was that the numbers may be skewed due to lack of participation. But you already knew that, right? Right?

  • bpcsouth

    If you can calculate the participation percentage then why have the census at all? I mean if you say you know what 31.3% is then you're saying you already know the total.

  • jaycjay

    "if you say you know what 31.3% is then you're saying you already know the total"



    I hope you're like a hipster artist or a bike messenger or something, and not trying to make a go of it as it an accountant, actuary, rocket scientist, or something else that requires the application of both logic and math.

  • djwerdna

    Maybe they're dividing the number of forms returned by the number of forms sent out. The number of households participating can be calculated, but they can't calculate how many people in that household/at that address.

  • dirty hipster

    I live in Williamsburg and didn't fill out my census.



    What are the reasons I should again? I forgot.

  • sadpanda

    Because if you don't, a really annoying census taker comes to your door three times a week until you respond.

  • optionshift

    I work for the Census Bureau recruiting the people who'll appear at your doorstep if you don't mail in your questionnaire.



    There are all types of people who apply, especially in this economy/job market. Some of them are polite, well-spoken and educated - but NOT all of them. Everyone undergoes a background check so it's unlikely we'll be sending a (convicted) ax-murderer to your home, but trust me - many applicants are chronically unemployed for a reason.



    Based on my observations, mailing in your form is a lot easier than a potential knock on your door from a social misfit with a government temp job.

  • NannyState

    A really weird, chronically unemployed one too, with shifting hair.

  • REALITY CHECK
    I live in Williamsburg and didn't fill out my census. What are the reasons I should again? I forgot


    Even if you don't care about the legitimate reasons for filling it out, if you don't do it, they'll send a census worker to your door to check on you. If you don't answer the door, they'll come again. And again. And again.

  • al oof

    on that chart they have a neighborhood listed as "Brooklyn: North Side-South Side" (42.9) as well as "Brooklyn: Williamsburg"(31.3) and "Brooklyn: East Williamsburg"(48.4).



    maybe who ever mentioned the hasidim is correct?

  • jaycjay

    Congrats to whatever government bureaucrats recognize that the North Side and South Side actually have never been considered to be Williamsburg. Clearly, though, it's unlikely that any of them are Gothamist commenters, so they probably won't know that they've gotten my kudos.

  • al oof

    what's your reason not to?

  • jaycjay

    "What are the reasons I should again?"



    According to the envelope from the second copy I received, its: YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

  • Kojak

    Something about funding for your neighborhood for certain projects, congressional (Local,State,Federal) representation, lots of other stuff. Its hard to divvy that out without knowing how many and where.



    Shit is easy to fill out and its once every 10 years. Why not?

  • echo

    I was about to send mine in when I received a second one. Then I read about the can opener and decided to wait for that. You can never have enough can openers.

  • nicemarmot

    I returned mine awhile ago, but they keep sending me more. It's like they think there's half a dozen people in my apartment instead of two people and a dog.

  • bucephalus

    As a census employee (albeit one low on the totem pole), I have to point out that the census is completely and utterly disorganized. I don't trust these statistics in the slightest. None of my supervisors take the job seriously. It comes as no surprise that people who've returned the form are receiving reminders/additional copies. You think DMV employees don't give a shit?

  • neckbeard

    same exact thing happened to me. sent mine in a day or two after it arrived and I continually get notices and warnings.

  • row

    same here. i've gotten 2 warnings since I sent it in about 2 weeks ago.

  • CaptainWillard

    Strange that you guys are getting doubles, because I havn't even gotten the first one yet...

  • aa77

    I got a duplicate after sending in mine as well...I guess they want to double count the ones who actually fill them out

  • lampshades

    The same thing happened to me.

  • kazubes

    Who needs to fill out a census form when your mom and dad pay for your 1 bedroom and you can drink PBR all day bro

  • marchug

    hahahahaa. wow! so funny! a hipster joke about willimasburg? i never saw THAT coming! hahahaa. wait, when is the last time you've been to williamsburg? seems to be full of rich condo dwellers and young urban mom's pushing strollers to me. but who cares, let's keep the neverending hipster jokes coming!

  • l3iodeez

    @marchug



    Oh are you a little offended? Is that because your parents pay your rent and you love PBR? Because I go to

    Williamsburg ever couple of weeks at least and there plenty of unshaven tight pants wearing PBR drinking dudes who thinks it OK not to shower.



    Seriously guys, BO is NOT ironic. Wear some fucking deodorant.

  • SilentShout

    Why do you go to Williamsburg if you hate hipsters? Im beginning to suspect that you yourself might be... a hipster.

  • LB

    Lol, Smelling like a Wet dog, trapped in a Sack of smelly clothes .

  • Kojak

    Don't forget they love to play Hacky sack and listen to their WEIRD alternative music. They also engage in ridiculous events such as the iditarod.

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