Netanyahu's White House Visit Called A "Hazing"

NINCONPOOP ides_of_march. This policy preceded Obama. It's the State Department, you steaming pile of smelly drivel! And it's the way most of the entire civilized world sees it. Sentiment against settlement-building did not start with Obama. The only way I would get onboard with building just one more settlement would be if YOU were deported there.

With Netanyahu and the likes of him in power, there will never be peace. The man is a singlehanded force against peace. It's about time we're acting as we should to bring a true, long-lasting peace to the Middle East. No more settlements. No more kowtowing to AIPAC. Peace and civility for all!

Just a little payback for the insult they threw at Biden a few weeks ago. Tit for tat.

It's about time the US stopped letting Israel walk all over them.

Now if we would only stop sending $3 billion in aid (courtesy of US taxpayer's money) to that terrorist state every year we'd have some real progress in the Middle East.

POLITICIANS ARE ALL COCKS

The only thing I can conclude from browsing these comments is that 90% of all of the commenters here are either conservative or liberal d-bags, who all think a link to Wikipedia is a valid argument.

and what do you have to bring to the table?

So Obama gave Bibi alist of demands behind closed doors ? Sounds more like he bitch-slapped him around a bit !

The Holy Koran tells us: "O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another."

The Talmud tells us: "The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace."

The Holy Bible tells us: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."

The people of the world can live together in peace. We know that is God's vision. Now that must be our work here on Earth.

Barack Obama, Address to Cairo University 6/4/09

The Koran doesn't mention Jerusalem a single time, so what is Islam's connection to the holiest Jewish city?

Arabs never tried to make J'lem a capitol between 1948-1967 when they were denying Jews access to their holy sites, destroying Jewish homes & synagogues, and desecrating an ancient Jewish cemetary.

Why does the media not know the difference between North & East Jerusalem? Ramat Shlomo is in North Jerusalem, not East.

Why doesn't Gothamist want people to know the truth about Jerusalem's Jewish history and the fact that Arab squatters who invaded the city in 1948, are now living on stolen Jewish property all over Jerusalem, courtesy of the Jordanians illegal 19 year occupation?

Why is the world silent on the issue that many Arab Jerusalem residents never lived there before 1948? And many live on Jewish owned property today!

Because like we said, we really don't care about some little New Jersey in the sand thousands of miles away. We care about our jobs, our health, our economic stability here in the US. We've got enough to worry about here. But feel free to screw us and take our billions.

Um, lets see. I don't care about Israel, Tibet, Quebec, Luxemborg, or many other places. I don't see why a little New Jersey in the sand commands such money and protection from any critique. And who also commands such untouchable blind allegiance despite ignoring the UN and the world. But gee, I guess on April 15th we'll all sign those checks over to the US Treasury, and send a few more billion dollars east. I do, however, think it's unfair that Vanuatu goes underwater. And that the Tahitian chain should be given back to its people by France. It's really pretty there, the people are very nice, their culture goes way back, and the people don't try to screw us at every turn, kill people and steal our money. Does that make me anti-French?

Oh man so many trolls trolling trolls... I don't have time to read all this.

POLL

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-6116297-503544.html

Let's see: you forge documents from ordinary British and Israeli citizens so your intelligence service can kill a guy in Dubai, you diss the US Vice president on a visit to your country and announce new settlements during a hopeful phase in a longstanding peace settlement negotiation, and you make further claims on a 'shared city' with enormous religious and cultural significance. What part of that gets you a State Dinner?

What naked hypocrisy on the part of Israel. It complains about a perceived slight, when it just did the same?

Netanyahu "pushed the envelope with Obama" and now that Obama has pushed back, Netanyahu is worried and afraid."

Just sit and watch these GOP zombies go on a retaliatory rampage of GLOBAL proportions!

How noble of them! FKN UP NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION!

"It’s one thing for Republicans to try to wreck the domestic centerpiece of American health-care reform, but what about the once-sacrosanct tradition of bipartisan foreign policy? President Obama and Russian President Dmitri A. Medvedev are putting the final touches on the U.S.-Russia arms-control treaty that will be signed in Prague early next month. This agreed resumption of the reduction of nuclear arms, which stalled badly more than a decade ago, may be the most urgent item on the world’s agenda. It’s the precondition for halting an explosion of nuclear proliferation and heading off a new arms race—one that includes China in the competition."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-26/the-next-gop-screw-up/?cid=hp:mainpromo7

Obama is a tool of Israel.

no one can stop the Israel Lobby

there isn't even two sides to this issue.

international law (and common sense)says you cant build outside of your own border.

East Jerusalem is NOT reconized by ANY country in the world as being part of Israel.

How can anyone say anything bad about Obama in this case? What don't I understand?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IsraeliSettlementGrowthLineGraph.png

http://maxblumenthal.com/feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem/

East Jerusalem is a concoction of the media. Prior to the violent arab invasion of Jerusalem the day after November 29, 1947, there was no such place as 'East Jerusalem'. The idea of "East" came into being when Jordanian Arabs destroyed 50+ synagogues & expelled Jews from their rightful homes and illegally occupied them afterwards.

Jerusalem is Israel. It was the capitol of Israel thousands of years before Islam was even a thought. It's mentioned over 700 times in the old testament. yet Jerusalem isn't mentioned a single time in the Koran, neither is Palestine, despite the fact that Romans renamed it that in 70 a.d., many centuries before the Koran was written.

The ironic thing is that Israel IS mentioned in the Koran, dozens of times! So much for Muslims wishing it didn't exist, huh?

Remember, the right here and everywhere has master the art of denying reality and building agendas on lie upon lie and some real incidents with the glue of fear.

But because the right is composed by a few extremist with knowledge (the party elite) and thousands of totally ignorant paranoid zombies you get such interpretations on these basic facts: empiricism and logic are totally irrelevant.

Netanyahu should have been arrested for war crimes when he landed in the US.

Quoted from our SOS HRC:

"And let me assure you, as I have assured you on previous occasions with large groups like this and small intimate settings, for President Obama and for me, and for this entire Administration, our commitment to Israel’s security and Israel’s future is rock solid, unwavering, enduring, and forever. (Applause.)"

What does Bibi want, a rim job?

Netanyahu received better treatment than Joe Biden did when he visited Israel. If it bothers them that much to be subjected to our president's advice on peace with the Palestinians, then they can simply return the billions in foreign aid we've been shoveling their way for decades.

Obama's going for the weekly three-fer: Health care reform, nuclear arms control and middle east peace all in seven days. Good for him.

" In his inaugural address, President Obama called for relations with the Muslim world, characterized by “mutual interest and mutual respect,” a call that received an overwhelmingly positive reception in the Muslim World.

President Obama took an unprecedented step toward improving Muslim perceptions of the U.S. by conducting his first televised interview as President with Al Arabiya.

In Turkey, President Obama spoke to the Muslim World, stating that “America is not at war with Islam,” and that the relationship cannot, and will not, just be based upon opposition to terrorism.”

Middle East Peace

Beginning on Day 1, President Obama actively engaged on Middle East peace, placing phone calls to key regional leaders.

Obama further signaled his commitment to Middle East Peace by appointing Sen. George Mitchell as Middle East Envoy, who has journeyed to the region three times already.

In the first serious engagement in a number of years, the U.S. invited Syria’s ambassador to meet with a senior U.S. diplomat, and sent two representatives to Syria for talks. This came as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reached out to Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Mouallem at the Gaza conference.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton attended Gaza aid conference, pledging $900 million in aid in order to “foster conditions in which a Palestinian state can be fully realized, a state that is a responsible partner, is at peace with Israel and its Arab neighbors and is accountable to its people.” "

http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1281

Funny to hear that "America isn't at war with Islam" yet islam is at war with America, UK, Spain, India, Pakistan, Israel, Sudan, Nigeria, Russia, Indonesia, and anyone else that dares to fight against the violence carried out by Muslims.

Islam is more of a fascist political ideology than a religion. There isn't a single Muslim democracy where citizens can actually vote to elect their representatives.

"There isn't a single Muslim democracy where citizens can actually vote to elect their representatives."

What about Turkey, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Mali, Senegal, Malaysia? Come on, man. What about the elections in Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, even Gaza?

Who cares if about 'democracy' anyway. This is about international law. Law says you can only build withing your recognized. Its not complicated.

"The construction policy will not change"

Basically, F off, we are gonna do what we want..your alleged 'charm' has no effect on us.

rolltide. the charm obama is using now has nothing to do with his smile and everything to do with $3 billion in aid. and that, tideman, is a lot of charm.

Oh goodie, all the Anti-Semetic liberal idiots have their forum to hate Israel in now.

But before you get too excited, just ask yourselves what happens to the Middle East without Israel. Everyone's middle name becomes Hussein. I know, I know, Israel is the devil (sarcasm) and yet it her neighbors that invented and perpetuate suicide bombings and planes into buildings-tactics.

Obama is making another brilliant move. I hope he has fun in Indonesia. Indonesia still has the largest concentration of Muslims in the world, right? Right. Shock.

Uncle Leo?

Where would Israel be without 3 Billion US Dollars a year?

Short one nuked neighbor. Don't delude yourself into thinking there's any other reason why Iran still exists. 3B buys a lot of Iraqi lives.

Etypical needs some schooling, because s/he obviously has no clue about the history of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. The first person to bring the suicide bomb to the middle east was not an Arab or a Muslim. It was a Jew. Her name was Sima Fleishhaker-Hoizman (yes, a Jewish woman) and she killed 12 innocent people in 1946. The irony is quite amusing, don't you think? Do everyone a favor and go read a history book that was not created by Zionist propaganda machines. I know it's hard to find them, but if you actively search for the truth you may actually enlighten yourself to the truth.

Dear farleft,

Stop lying.

Arabs had been committing terrorist acts against Jews since the 1920's when they shot, stabbed, raped, and mutilated Jews during the Hebron massacre in August 1929, as well as the riots in 1920, 1921, 1936, and bombings throughout the 1940's.



The woman you write about was not a suicide bomber,she didn't even kill herself. You should read articles before discussing. Also, warnings were phoned in 40 minutes before bombs were placed, in order to evacuate & minimize civilian casualties. Do the Arabs give Jews warnings before they murder us? No. There is a fundamental difference. Also, there aren't schools, computer centers, roads or town squares named after these bombers. Unlike the Arabs in Judea/Samaria & Gaza, Jews don't idolize dirtbag terrorists like Dalal Mugrabi, the Lebanese woman who went to Israel to murder an American photographer,13 children and 25 other Israelis in 1978.

This is another reason that peace cannot be achieved with Abbas, a man who financed the 1972 Munich massacre of several Olympian Israelis and American David Berger. Abbas, unelected leader of the PA, even claimed in a book that only "a few hundred thousand Jews" died in the holocaust. Abbas' thesis is the epitome of holocaust denial.

Ironically, Palestinians were close allies with the Nazis before and during WW2 (google: Haj-amin Husseini) Arabs were caught trying to poison the Tel Aviv water supply with the help of Nazi agents prior to WW2. It was an attempted murder of 25,000 people. A Palestinian Muslim leader recruited Bosnian Muslims to round up and massacre Europeans, there is even a famous photo of the Palestinian Arab reviewing these men before they committ atrocities.

Arabs were actively engaged in a campaign of genocide against Jews long before 1948.

So I fail to see your point, except that like most Palestinian cheerleaders, you doublespeak & lie to further your agenda. You are absolutely ignorant of the holy land's history when you ignore the thousands of Arab terrorist attacks on Jewish civilians between 1920-1947.

etypical obviously doesn't learn. I schooled him/her just a few months ago about the first suicide bombing being committed by a Jewish woman....but I guess etypical is an imbecile and has selective memory. See link below, near the bottom.



http://gothamist.com/2009/10/12/muslims_claim_feds_are_racially_pro.php

etypical...how long did it take you to finish grade school. Or did that never happen?

Yes, you schooled me. In the pointlessness of debating complex issues with deranged trolls.

I don't agree with you but +1 for "deranged trolls".

are you really unschooled enough in geostrategic matters to assert that iran would actually nuke israel?

are you aware that if iran nuked israel, the US would nuke iran? this is called a deterrent. read up on your history: it's what kept the us and the soviets from going from cold war to hot war.

Yes, I did school you. And I'll school you again: This isn't a "complex" issue. Israel is occupying Palestinian land. Stop occupying Palestinian land, give them their right to return to their homeland, establish equal rights to all inhabitants, etc. Pretty straightforward as far as justice, equality, and human rights are concerned.

You mean they should be allowed to return to Jordan right?

etypical, I don't know if anyone told you this before, but to disagree with the Israeli gov't doesn't make you Anti-Semetic.

Israel does not have a special pass.

I'm aware. I've also been reading Gothamist long enough to know exactly who's going to show up and comment here.

Why not stick to the right-wing neocon bullshit blogs and stay away from Gothamist, then?

About freaking time the President of the United States stopped licking the boots of the Israel lobby. It's time that Israel learned who held the leash and who's in the collar.

This reminds me of how George Bush Sr. stood tall against this Israeli nonsense. It almost got us peace, except some right winger, someone like Sarah Palin or John Boehner or Glenn Beck, shot Prime Minister Rabin.

Oh and guess what, gothamistites - I'm Jewish! And I have family in Israel! So, watch your insults.

What's missing from this argument is what are the Palestinians going to concede. Yes, they lost this land in wars, either by not defending themselves, or defending themselves terribly. Now it's all "yes, we lost, but we want it back. Give us! Give us! Give us!" In every negotiation each side has to part with something - what are the Palestinians willing to put on the table? Recognition of Israel? Admittance that the "Right or Return" will never happen? Don't give me any of this shit about "the Palestinians have suffered enough and more than anyone else" because in war both sides suffer. Palestinians have suffered at the hands of Israel, but they've also suffered at the hands of their own inept and corrupt government that's promised them things they can't deliver (along with almost every other Arab gov't or leadership in the region), stolen their money, kept them down, and used Israel as scapegoat for nearly every problem going.

hey CR -

the obama administration is asking israel to stop building NEW settlements. dude, it's not like they are asking them to stop defending themselves, or to give up something they already have. they are asking them to STOP TAKING MORE.

seriously, dude. seriously. come on.

there is just no equivalence here. and you know what, the palestinian govt, such as it is, has prevented suicide bombings and other serious attacks. you can't stop everything, but they've done a pretty good job at it.

so just get some perspective: when israel stops building new settlements in east jerusalem and the west bank, then let's start talking about the palestinians giving up something really substantive.

and, as far as the right of return goes: that's a freaking talking point. it's not territory or a fence or a checkpoint. you can take that back with a word at the negotiating table. but you cannot take down settlements or fences with a word. once they are up, they literally fix the geography. literally.

come on, man. just TRY to be reasonable and a creative thinker instead of re-stating all your AIPAC or AJC or ADL talking points. please.

i went to hebrew school. my family gives to the ADL. my grandfather and father were on the boards of the AJC. I know all your arguments.

Since you're so knowledgeable, you'd know that Jewish settlements in Israel predate the entire Muslim religion by thousands of years. I've been to ancient settlements from 3,000 BCE. How again did Palestinians get there first? You're actually looking at it from the same view as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who claims that it was Palestinian land before Jews got there. Sure, if you want to ignore thousands of years that occurred before that.

And what actually has stopped terrorist attacks from the West Bank is the giant concrete wall that divides Israel from it. Most assuredly it was not the impotent Palestinian government.

While we're at it, taking the long view of history, why not blame the 6 Arab countries that kicked the Palestinians out of their countries in the first place? Now it's just Israel's problem, right?

I think its crazy to argue, 'my people were here thousands of years ago so this is my land now' but history is fun, so heres some fun info from Juan Cole.

"Adherents of Judaism did not found Jerusalem. It existed for perhaps 2700 years before anything we might recognize as Judaism arose. Jewish rule may have been no longer than 170 years or so, i.e., the kingdom of the Hasmoneans.

Therefore if historical building of Jerusalem and historical connection with Jerusalem establishes sovereignty over it as Netanyahu claims, here are the groups that have the greatest claim to the city:

A. The Muslims, who ruled it and built it over 1191 years.

B. The Egyptians, who ruled it as a vassal state for several hundred years in the second millennium BCE.

C. The Italians, who ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire in 450 CE.

D. The Iranians, who ruled it for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.

E. The Greeks, who ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.

F. The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, who ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.

G. There is an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, as well as perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin's dynasty), who were Kurds from Iraq.

9. Of course, Jews are historically connected to Jerusalem by the Temple, whenever that connection is dated to. But that link mostly was pursued when Jews were not in political control of the city, under Iranian, Greek and Roman rule. It cannot therefore be deployed to make a demand for political control of the whole city.

10. The Jews of Jerusalem and the rest of Palestine did not for the most part leave after the failure of the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans in 136 CE. They continued to live there and to farm in Palestine under Roman rule and then Byzantine. They gradually converted to Christianity. After 638 CE all but 10 percent gradually converted to Islam. The present-day Palestinians are the descendants of the ancient Jews and have every right to live where their ancestors have lived for centuries."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idWkkIKW_yU&feature=player_embedded

Very impressive research!!

Jerusalem should be it's own neutral city-state, like the Vatican, and ruled by a neutral party.

howyadoin!

omg. you're right! the contemporary descendants of the persons who lived somewhere 3000 years ago get first dibs on that territory!

uh oh. what does that mean for you, howie?

i know what it means for me: i get some nice land in tel aviv... and probably something on the steppes of mongolia... w00t!

as far as the wall's effectiveness goes. indeed it has limited attacks. but there were also attacks at checkpoints and by palestinians who had papers to work in israel. there actually was a ceasefire called and it seems to have halted almost all attempts that even the wall would not have stopped.

It's about time what? Israel stopped developing it's own land? I'd love to see what would happen if some Native American popped up in your backyard and told you your garage had to go and your bushes were on his land. I'm sure you'd apologize, pack up real fast and hand it right over. It's so easy to tell someone else to do that, isn't it.

Yeah, seriously etypical, think about the "Indian argument" you just made. That could just as easily be an argument for the Palestinian side, if fact it works better, especially if you believe Jewish people are the "original inhabitants" of Palestine/Israel. Arabs live in the region for centuries, then all of the sudden European Jews decide they want their homeland back and ask the Muslims to either please leave or live as second-class citizens in a Jewish state.

It's just the same as if American Indians decided, hey, we were on Manhattan first, and got kicked out. So United States, please return Manhattan island to its rightful owners, the native peoples, you are free to live in Queens or New Jersey. I have a feeling people wouldn't really like that arrangement, maybe even be angry about it. Don't you?

wait. etypical. think about what you just wrote.

let's just get this straight for all those gothamist folks who might scroll past. in your analogizing the israeli-palestinian relationship to the mns-native american relationship, you are saying that...

i, mns, am like the jew from russia and brooklyn and queens who has shown up in the West Bank and told Palestinians who have been living there for 100s of years that they gotta go so i can have a suburban house.

and the native american is like the aforementioned Palestinian who was just kicked off his land.

is that the analogy? seriously. is this the analogy you are attempting to make?

yes because I'm not a moron and I remember how Palestinians lost that land. They colluded with Israel's other neighbors and waged a war, on Yom Kippur, thinking they'd surprise and annihilate the Jews. They were wrong. Loss of land is a fair price to pay for that murderous plan gone awry.

fyi....the arabs lost jerusalem in 67. it was one of those pre-emptive wars. Israel attacked first

http://www.slate.com/id/2167713/

peace brother

You know what preemptive means, right?

I wasnt there. I don't how necessary the pre-emptive war was. If you can search google archive you can see the how it was seen at the time.

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=israel&cid=4326234657914883&scoring=a&sa=N&start=0

IMO it doesnt matter. Now you have this land won in war, but there are millions of people on it. what do you do with the people?

Right back atcha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

ahhh. well we should really say the same to the native americans. they lost, like, every single war the us fought against them. indian suckers! stop yer whining! and let me build some condos on yer rez!

seriously, etips, is your claim that because the palestinians fought back against the illegal and violent seizure of their homes and land in 1948, they deserve to be treated in whatever manner the israelis wish to treat them?

so, you are saying that the jews in israel can do a whole bunch in self-defense. but the palestinians are not allowed to act in self-defense.

but maybe your point is that the palestinians should not have fought alongside the arabs.

fair enough. but again: why do the palestinians have to suffer the most while the arab states that were primarily responsible for the war don't have to suffer much (after all, we give tons and tons of aid to egypt).

my guess is that the reason why is that the palestinians are weak and so the israelis can beat up on them, but the other arab states aren't.

so, i conclude that you either think that might makes right. or you think that because israel is the jewish state it can do whatever the hell it wants to do.

well, if it's the former (that means the first option), then since the us is mightier than israel, i say, "on yer knees, bibi!"

if it's the latter (that means the second option), then you are just a bigoted jerk and i have a special "i hate all arabs and most non-jews" t-shirt for you. it's totally perfect apparel for bigoted little dips like you.

The Holocaust ended in 1948 and Israel was created then. The 6 Day War (wherein Palestinians walked away from their land at the behest of Syria and Jordan) was fought in 1967.

Learn history before you school others.

uh... etips. teacher of the histories. um, doctor of historiagraphical disaster.

bad news, tippy:

the holocaust, by which most mean the active killing of jews by nazi germany, ended in 1944. when the nazis lost the war.

so you are a solid 4 years off. maybe by "holocaust" you mean something else. is cool. by "you're a bigoted twat" i mean something else too.

now, as far israel being "created" in 1948. actually, the zionist project got going much earlier than 1948. it's not like there were no jews in palestine in 1947 and then whammo they were all there. actually, there was a long history of colonization aided by Western powers. of course, the UK played both sides of the fence, but then again so did all the Arab states. it's just a messy, messy story and there is no one narrative that captures the whole thing.

so maybe we shouldn't argue about that.

maybe we should just seek peace. and by that i don't mean the peace of a million palestinian graves.

so, you know: stop building settlements, israel. just stop. please. and then maybe let's think about swapping some land and trying to make peace. that's all obama and the rest of us are asking.

we're not asking you to stop being jewish or to stop defending yourself or to stop being hateful towards everyone who questions even the tiniest bit of israeli policy.

and before you blow a gasket on shabbat hagadol - the shabbos before pesach - just remember that no one here is giving the palestinians a free ride. they gotta renounce violence against israel, teach their kids not to hate jews and maybe allow for some international oversight of their governmental operations.

but first: bibi, stop building the settlements. mkay?

No, go ahead and develop that land if you think its worth the $3B in aid we give you every year. Israel is our bitch and its about time they realize that. You only exist because we need a 40 mile runway.

Obama bows, scrapes and grovels to every third world thug he can find and craps all over staunch American allies Britain, Israel, Poland, Czech Republic just to name a few.

Kind of like how the Bushes bowed and screaped to corporate America and Blackwater, and before that their former ally Saddam Hussein. But I don't see you bitching about that now, eh?

to anyone reading this: ides of march is an angry troll who really doesn't bring anything of substance to the table. if he made arguments based on fact, that were of any academic value, it would be great to engage with him (her?).

what's the point, though? he posts something hateful and vile, everyone freaks out about it in response, it seems so pointless. let's engage with those on the right who bring ideas to the table, instead of epithets, half truths, and empty slogans.

ignore this guy into oblivion.

that is very clear. He sounds like the scrip on repeat that Fox News displays everyday for their followers to be recited word by word: fast food for the intellectually weak.

That's the "education" they never got, take that for home schooling people via private advocacy group payed by the millions of radical Rupert Murdoch.

The game they have establishes is so transparent and so immoral, it brings into the table the discussion of the limits of freedom of speech.

He just can't help himself. He clearly feels he was born to bow.

Because politically "punching people in the face" like the Hawks have done for decades, works wonders. Specially to assure war contractors millions.

That is why people "love" America.

You haven't traveled much around the world don't you?

If Israel isn't an ally please explain why Britain, France, Canada, and tons of other countries are considered Allies?

The issue isn't whether those other countries are our allies(and I have some doubts on some of them).



You must prove why Israel IS an ally!

Starting with the USS Liberty and Jonathan Pollard.

Please explain exactly how Israel is an ally of the United States or how aligning ourselves with their interests advances our interests in the region.

Israel is not our ally.

Israel is Israel's ally, and Israel's ally only.

So Netanyahu actually thinks it is ok to treat him favorable that any other president?! And why exactly?!

This sense of superiority while totally disregarding INTERNATIONAL LAW is just UNACCEPTABLE.

Do you think all those suicide bombers and the ones firing rockets into Israel are following international law too?

nope. they sure aren't. so, you know, we should give them 3 billion in aid, too.

and who exactly is giving this aid to Palestinians?

smart-assing does not make facts.

Why would you give aid to the Palestinians? Everyone gave Arafat 50 billion dollars which can't be accounted for since his death. Oh right, sorry, his wife has a couple billion that she uses to live very richly in France. Money well spent!

I bet how Laura Bush lives with all the welfare money...

BTW how is this relevant?

yeah because nothing helps more with the RADICAL Muslims than pure antagonization and segregation! RIGHT!?

How long has this war in Israel been there?

Amanda - terrorists and extremists don't need reasons to kill people - it's their job (which they apparently get paid well for ((or well paid-off for.)) Israel's sole existence is provocative - always has been, always will be. If if by some great act of the cosmos there is a peace agreement - no terrorist group (including Hamas) is going to honor it - you don't sing a song for 50 years ("Push all the Jews into the sea") and then change it - it just doesn't work that way. Nothing short of total destruction and death to all Israeli's (and all Jews) is good enough for them.

Check out OBL last couple of tapes where's he wants revenge on the "British Empire" for further proof.

Isn't 'swinish contempt' good? Keeping kosher and all requires contempt for the swine, no?

I can't believe they are talking about President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo like that.

Careful, we're all still reeling from the elections in Togo earlier this month. How dare that damn Faure Gnassingbe refuse to concede defeat!

+1

hahahah. nice.

WAAAAHHHH

'swinish contempt'

That's what happens when you pull stunts that undermine efforts to build Peace in the region.

You need us more than we need you.

"Bibi received in the White House the treatment reserved for the president of Equatorial Guinea."

They mean the treatment reserved for some black guy. Can they try to be a touch less obviously racist please?

Wow, really?!? It must be because an Israeli said therefore it's automatically racist, right? Do you think when all those rescued Ethiopians reached Israel everyone looked at one another and said in a Mel-Brooksian manner "Oy, you didn't tell me they were SCHVARTZES!"

The Israelis are just as racist as any other white person worldwide-ask a black Israeli what they think and know. But you can't, can you? Because you know that the truth will be hard to take when they say, 'Yes'!

A president whose middle name is Hussein sides with the Muslims over the Israelis. I'm shocked.

Let me save the shock for you - Obama is much smarter than you. His strategy is to force Bibi to accept Likud, a center-left political group, into his coalition, and drive out right-wing parties like Yisrael Beiteinu and Shas from the governing coalition. Domestic politics called for the building of the settlements during Biden's visit - Bibi wasn't even aware that it was going to happen. Obama is now harping on this accident to shift the politics in Israel to his favor.

But yea, the name his parents gave him has a lot to do with his strategy too. Dumb shit.

Considering a center left party plays into terrorist hands, the results will be the same.

+1

owned!

Its about time!!!