Brooklyn Milk Traffickers Deal Raw Product

Since my name is used in this article, without my having ever been contacted or asked to answer the accusations in the Brooklyn Paper story, I would like an opportunity to set the record straight. For my rebuttal to this story and the original Brooklyn Paper story, please see my blog entry on this:

http://healthyfamilychronicles.blogspot.com/2010/03/midnight-rant.html

Is the owner of this blog blocking my comments?

Another thing felix, those mercy for animals c*nts proved their full of shit when they said a cow was suffering with a pro lapsed uterus for two weeks, there was obvious no vet input when they pieced that crap together. That cow would have been dead in a few hours if not treated, if you want to campaign for something at least you could learn what your talking about. Also, a hidden video's do not have a (holocaust type) narrator, that whole thing was Heavily edited. Just another fund raiser, to"milk" fools like you for money.

Give me the name of your farm so I can see all YOUR lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEGw8iFbG5I&feature=player_embedded

Damn, you guys crack me up. :)

Jesus, felix you silly little homo, I'm not posting my FUCKING address! Post your address so someone can video what you and the Mr do with your cat "companion", besides what the fuck would you do anyway, send some punk to do a "hidden" video? Well first off the video wouldn't reveal any thing you think it would and secondly, entering a farm building(without permission) is breaking and entering and subject to a serious ass whooping and yes trying to find my personal property is stalking and kinda creepy.

Typical response, I told you before, central pa. The federal, state, and cooperative inspectors have given me 100% rating since 2000(the year I purchased it) and are the only ones that I have to answer to, not a bunch of misinformed activist.

what is the name of this farm so I can check those ratings?

Ha Ha Ha you stalker, if you were as smart as you think you are you would have found it by now. You can't even distinguish science from propaganda, so how would you know how farms are rated or be a critic of one ? Now go play grab ass with your boyfriend quit and stalking me , i can't keep stopping to correct you, cause i'm tring to get done and go coyote hunting tonite, Wish me luck!

i wish you shot yourself. What a coward, a loaded gun against an unarmed specie.

Way to show compassion, apparently you know nothing about wildlife management also. Coyotes are very damaging to rabbit, deer and other animal populations.Don't you value the life of small animals? coyotes are very crafty predators and are very hard to hunt, and its not cowardice, its pure skill. I can hit a two inch circle at over four hundred yards, just remember that if your stalking of me works out.

that is nature but you shooting an unarmed specie is just cowardice. trailer park trash.

what if we shot armed species?

Trailer park trash, and you call others infantile. coyotes can smell a human from extreme distances, see in the dark and would eat your cats in a heartbeat, so their hardly defenseless. I would rather have a herd of deer in my field, than a pack of coyotes, sorry you cant comprehend that but, possible there is a site somewhere on line that could teach you more, but I doubt it would make it past your "fact blocker".

no need for you to shoot them and for what? for your pleasure, sick trailer trash park coward.

Maybe we should spay and neuter them , so they don't overpopulate and wipe out the deer and rabbit population. You catch some and i'll pay to have it done . Idiot! Why don't you call me a poopy head next time?

The population will take care of its own, no need for you to shoot them for your own cowardly perversion and if you care about population then why do YOU continue to impregnate cows to sell poison (milk) to the uninformed consumers?

you the one who is stalking and you the one who WONT disclose the name of your farm because you know this is what will be found:

http://www.mercyforanimals.org/dairy/

Felix, why do you insist on affirming the consequent?

How do you know what dairy farmers do to their cows, you have never been to a farm. I told you before to apply to be a "fresh air kid" so you could learn a little, that video was like judging a hospital by only video taping the hospice unit. Scroll up and read big mikes comment, its 100% true, don't believe him, try it.

and you the one who won't disclose your farm location because we will just see this abuse as in the undercover video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy0511sG1Ts&feature=player_embedded

Ha ha ha the most hateful commenter on gothamist calling someone insulting. Priceless!

most hateful? your the dairy farmer who does this to cows:

http://gothamist.com/2010/01/27/move_to_ban_tail_docking_in_new_yor.php

I wonder if raw milk tastes like irradiated milk? (I hope not). The milk at my local grocer in Madrid was irradiated (not as dangerous as Americans would like to think it is), but it tasted...off. I wonder if I would find pasteurized milk as "off-tasting" if I tried raw. I do love unpasteurized cheese, so I'm sure it's delicious.

Considering that a study on cats consuming irradiated cat food ended with them dieing, it's safe to say that irradiation isn't all that great. Taking a food product and altering it screws it up; which is why calves can't live off of pasteurized milk.

As far as the quality of nutrition is concerned, whey protein is the very best there is, with the highest protein efficiency ratio of all proteins. At the bottom of the list is soy protein, and pretty much all vegetable proteins. Aside from quinoa, they are all incomplete (missing the essential amino acids) and none of them digest well. After whey protein from milk, the best sources of protein are fish and bird eggs, animal and fish flesh. The vegetable proteins come after that.

Aside form being an incomplete protein, soy is really bad for you. It contains all kinds of phytosterols that fuck with your hormonal system, the thyroid in particular. It is very high in phytoestrogen. The "soy is great for your health hype" is just that, hype created by the US soy industry. The US produces and consumes more soy than any other country in the world. The image of the little old 110 year old japanese lady who eats nothing but tofu and edamame is a lie. The only safe soy products to eat are fermented, because that destroys the toxins. Have you ever tasted tempeh? That stuff tastes like shit. No one other than macrobiotic vegan freaks eats that crap.

The Japanese live long because they eat a lot of seafood, fermented veggies, drink tons of tea and eat seaweed. Eating lots of tofu (and rice, which was previously a privilege for the rich) is a relatively recent trend and with it has come higher rates of disease. Guess who else are the healthiest in the world? The French. They eat whole fat dairy, meat, and drink lots of wine. They don't eat tofu. Soy is almost non existent in their diet.

The US vegan movement is a sure fire recipe for cancer, obesity, diabetes, hormonal imbalance, weak muscles, poor eyesight and brittle bones.

I should add tooth decay and gum disease to the list of detriments brought on by a vegan/vegetarian diet.

Wrong again, the more you post the more I realized you don't KNOW MUCH. Tooth decay is caused by SUGAR.

And where does sugar come from asshat? Sugar comes from starches. Not meat. Do you know what happens to the starches in bread when you chew on them? They are converted by enzymes in your saliva to pure glucose. I learned this in 6th grade, you moron.

a plant based diet doesn't mean sugar. You don't even know what a plant based diet is. bad, you must really spend most of your time alone because you are an asshole. YOu only insult people on this blog and you don't know shit. YOu think because you are liberal that you are elite or smart. you are dumber than a trailer trash redneck. Idiot.

Really? What does it mean then? Do you know ANYTHING about nutrition? What are the three macronutrients that all foods are made of? I'll tell you: Protein, fat, and carbohydrates. Plant based food are very low in protein. The majority of plant based food are also low in fat. Non processed plant foods are primarily composed of CARBOHYDRATES, CELLULOSE and WATER. Eat a plant based diet and you are eating mostly SUGAR. Those are facts, you stupid, arrogant, closed minded, ideological ASSHOLE.

lol red herring.

oops this was meant for the main thread

If you like industrial milk, then you'll LOVE raw milk from a happy pastured cow. The difference in flavor is astonishing. And it's much more nutritious.

Aside from the usual Felix comedy of idiocy, this a non story. One has to wonder why these brooklyn hipsters are making such a ridiculous cloak and dagger affair out of something that has become almost ubiquitous at the greenmarket. I get one gallon a week of raw non homogenized whole milk from grass fed pastures jersey cows from my csa. all legal an over the table. And like I said, it's for sale at farmers markets all over the city. This "story" is stupid. More self agrandising asshatery from Brooklyn foodies.

SP +1

don't you ever post a comment without insulting someone? Read up about milk and how we are the only specie that drinks milk from another specie and drinks it beyond weaning.

hey felix, set a saucer of any milk (cow, goat, ...human) in front of 20 cats, they'll drink it and love it.

set it in front of dogs, they'll drink it and love it too. my dog ate cheese and loved it. cats eat cheese too.

butter, dogs and cats go nuts.

so tell us again that no other species drinks milk after weaning, or don't drink milk from other species.

+1 billion, sometimes i wonder if Felix actually works for gothamist to stir the shit on their comment boards

No, you posted opinions and opinionated science. For every link you post , I could find a opposite one, I personally don't care what you eat, if you don't like milk then don't drink it, and the same with all foods. If you have to work so hard to try and sell your lifestyle as normal then it probably isn't . All of you anti- farmers are just scam artist, capitalizing on unsuspecting consumers. There is more money spent trying to tear down agriculture than there is promoting it.

Wow felix, I knew you were brainwashed, ignorant, and mentally unstable, its nice to see I'm not the only one that knew. Thanks again for copy and pasting all the bull shit , it just shows how brainwashed you are.

i posted facts and findings of several researchers and doctors not bankrolled by the dairy industry

The amazingly successful and expensive advertising campaigns of the dairy industry not only got our mothers to feed us formula instead of breast milk, but seem to have convinced us that it is "natural" for people to drink cows' milk. Nothing could be less natural. No species drinks milk beyond infancy and none consumes the milk of other species. --Neal Barnard, M.D.

When I was young, they packed me off to school,

And taught me how not to play the game. - Jethro Tull.

Custom will reconcile people to any atrocity.--George Bernard Shaw.

http://www.purewatergazette.net/milksucks.htm

Corpse-milk-egg protein is secondhand protein, inferior in quality to plant protein. And all plants, even lettuce, have protein. Here again is George Bernard Shaw: "Think of the fierce energy concentrated in an acorn! You bury it in the ground, and it explodes into a giant oak! Bury a sheep, and nothing happens but decay! "

Ultra pasturized milk is the most disgusting stuff on the planet. it is like an over-preserved corpse that looks on the surface to be fresh but is concealing a festering colony of germs, bacteria and mold. Raw milk is honest-- when it is old, it gets sour, and turns into clabber or yogurt or cheese. I'd much rather know the age of milk by its taste than drink something that might be months old and rotten. If you have to have milk raw is a much healthier way to go. Humans have been ingesting animals and their products for so many centuries that to say that they are 'not meant' to do so seems somewhat ignorant.

I think your comment is ignorant. No other specie drinks milk from another specie and no other specie drinks milk into adulthood. read the China Study:

T. Colin Campbell, professor emeritus of nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University , also questions dairy's place in the dietary guidelines. "I like dairy. I grew up on a farm. But one has to look at the facts," he says. "Dairy has been considered a health food, and that's an unfortunate myth."

Campbell 's views come from observations he and his colleagues made during a series of nutritional studies that began in 1983 and are collectively known as the China Study. In these studies, Campbell found that Asians, who consume far less dietary calcium than Americans, have one-fifth the bone fracture rate of Americans.

"Those countries that use the most cow's milk and its products also have the highest fracture rates and the worst bone health," Campbell says. He details the results of his work in a new book called "The China Study."

http://www.thechinastudy.com/la-timesarticle.html

I think it is ignorant to justifies something by its own existence or because it been done before. Look at the results. USA has the largest dairy drinker and also the highest bone disease.

No other specie drinks milk from another specie and no other specie drinks milk into adulthood.

They do when given the opportunity. There are a number of youtubes showing adult animals stealing milk from lactating animals. And a farmer the other day was just mentioning on a list I am on that one of her smaller milking cows goes and drinks milk from one of her larger milking cows.

T. Colin Campbell, professor emeritus of nutritional biochemistry at Cornell University , also questions dairy's place in the dietary guidelines. "I like dairy. I grew up on a farm. But one has to look at the facts," he says. "Dairy has been considered a health food, and that's an unfortunate myth."

Campbell 's views come from observations he and his colleagues made during a series of nutritional studies that began in 1983 and are collectively known as the China Study. In these studies, Campbell found that Asians, who consume far less dietary calcium than Americans, have one-fifth the bone fracture rate of Americans.

Unfortunately Dr. Campbell has been shown to be playing fast and loose with the evidence.

what youtube videos? non human species don't drink milk after they are weaned and they don't drink from other specie. Also the fact is that USA has the highest dairy consumption and the highest bone diseases.

what youtube videos? non human species don't drink milk after they are weaned and they don't drink from other specie.

There are several floating around. Go take a look. A couple of them are quite funny.

Also the fact is that USA has the highest dairy consumption and the highest bone diseases.

Since only a tiny population in the US drinks raw milk this is not germane to the above article. Even so, if the evidence you are drawing on is from T. Colin Campbell, then you are standing on very shaky ground.

LOL, the link that you posed is a blog of a meat eater who has NO medical background much less nutritional background. And please post this video since no non-human specie drinks milk after he/she is weaned and also they don't drink from other specie but are nurse by their mothers.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm

No other species but humans can. And most humans can't either.

f you're American or European it's hard to realize this, but being able to digest milk as an adult is one weird genetic adaptation.

It's not normal. Somewhat less than 40% of people in the world retain the ability to digest lactose after childhood. The numbers are often given as close to 0% of Native Americans, 5% of Asians, 25% of African and Caribbean peoples, 50% of Mediterranean peoples and 90% of northern Europeans. Sweden has one of the world's highest percentages of lactase tolerant people.

The actual evidence shows that raw milk is safer than pasteurized milk for anyone who would care to take the time to research the issue. That doesn't mean there aren't risks, but risk is always relative in these kind of things, and you have to make a decision based a legitimate risk/reward ratio.

I wouldn't pay much attention to the FDA, since corporate interests have an incredible amount of influence among these folks.

The real truth about milk:

Human bodies are not designed to drink the milk from other animal species. Dr. Benjamin Spock, America’s leading authority on childcare was one of the first to warn the world against the dangers of consuming cow’s milk.

Consider these cold facts.

Diary products contain no fiber or complex carbohydrates

Milk is saturated with fat and cholesterol

Milk is contaminated with cow’s blood, pus, pesticides, and hormones

Dairy is linked with allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease and cancer

Cow’s milk can cause anemia in children

Dairy can result in insulin-dependent diabetes in the later years of life

Diary products actually cause osteoporosis. Chinese women who consume calcium from plant sources have lesser incidents of bone fractures in old age

Milk has no iron, however it also blocks its absorption

Milk has less protein than most vegetables

Milk does not cure peptic ulcer disease. It only offers temporary relief of pain. In the long run milk causes acidity and further destroys the stomach lining

Milk is carcinogenic. It contains a factor called as IGF-1. All cancer studies show that when IGF-1 rises in the body one gets cancer.

repetitious and ignorant ftc

why does the FDA call it "inherently dangerous"

Isn't that pretty much what they say about a weed that helps countless chronic pain sufferers, chemotherapy patients, clinically depressed people....

Ive had it, my sister is a farmer, its amazing

Does your sister have any leftover for me? :)

The raw milk laws vary by state. It's perfectly legal in California and some of those people are PSYCHO about raw milk.

But that is California, the giant cereal box: full of fruits, nuts and flakes. They also have placenta-eating parties, would look up the link but it's bedtime for Dadoc.

I've had it before, its delicious but I understand it can be a health risk. Why not sell it with a big warning label that says "may contain stuff that can kill you." They'll only ever stock it at Whole Foods and other places where customers have to seek it out. No one will get confused and people don't have to worry about getting arrested for buying milk if they want to take the risk.

Felix, you're not a doctor, so give up the cut & paste. Milk, in moderation, is OK as part of a balanced diet. Same with cheeses, butter, yogurt, ice cream, etc. All things in moderation. But unpasteurized milk is a health risk, with things like M. Bovis and Listeria being some of the prime culprits. Thus, the laws on milk preparation. The article is not about whether milk is bad, but about pasteurized v unpasteurized product. Not taking sides in the great vegan brouhaha, but risks also exist in veggies, sprouts, and yeah, even cats (toxo, Pasturella, Feline Leukemia anyone?). Stay on subject, let the comments flow.

Pasteurization isn't necessary when a cow isn't suffering from mastitis, wallowing in their own feces, and given a diet of something other than grain, feces, and dead animals. Conventional milk has to be pasteurized; it's a diseased product.

this stuff would give me a bad case of the hershey squirts...

No heart of 76, do I really care what a person like you thinks? You bought a cat from a breder and had him shopped to you like property. Shame on you

breeder*

and when did this article have anything to do with breedersd anyway?

Felix, even your fellow vegans know Cohen is a fraud, and it makes you really look stupid promoting it.

http://www.vegsource.com/articles/cohen/

The real truth about milk:

Human bodies are not designed to drink the milk from other animal species. Dr. Benjamin Spock, America’s leading authority on childcare was one of the first to warn the world against the dangers of consuming cow’s milk.

Consider these cold facts.

Diary products contain no fiber or complex carbohydrates

Milk is saturated with fat and cholesterol

Milk is contaminated with cow’s blood, pus, pesticides, and hormones

Dairy is linked with allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease and cancer

Cow’s milk can cause anemia in children

Dairy can result in insulin-dependent diabetes in the later years of life

Diary products actually cause osteoporosis. Chinese women who consume calcium from plant sources have lesser incidents of bone fractures in old age

Milk has no iron, however it also blocks its absorption

Milk has less protein than most vegetables

Milk does not cure peptic ulcer disease. It only offers temporary relief of pain. In the long run milk causes acidity and further destroys the stomach lining

Milk is carcinogenic. It contains a factor called as IGF-1. All cancer studies show that when IGF-1 rises in the body one gets cancer.

Oh god felix, more deceit..

Milk is saturated with fat and cholesterol

Which according to numerous studies and health experts, is perfectly fine.

Milk is contaminated with cow’s blood, pus, pesticides, and hormones

Conventional milk is; organic and raw milk is not. This is like saying that vegetables lead to cancer and alzheimers.

Dairy is linked with allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease and cancer

People who have trouble processing it may have allergies to it, but this is decreased when it is not pasteurized and/or served warm. The other ones are from additives or the modification of milk, not the milk itself.

Cow’s milk can cause anemia in children

Dairy can result in insulin-dependent diabetes in the later years of life

This is again a product of conventional milk, not the milk itself.

Diary products actually cause osteoporosis.

It's not the dairy, it's the overconsumption of calcium.

Milk has no iron, however it also blocks its absorption

Spinach blocks calcium, what's your point?

Milk has less protein than most vegetables

Straw man argument. No one should be trying to get their protein from dairy products.

Milk does not cure peptic ulcer disease. It only offers temporary relief of pain. In the long run milk causes acidity and further destroys the stomach lining

Which is why it's important to understand nutrition so that ones diet is properly balanced for acid/alkaline

Milk is carcinogenic. It contains a factor called as IGF-1. All cancer studies show that when IGF-1 rises in the body one gets cancer.

The human body contains IGF-1. It's the rBGH in conventional milk that boosts it which causes cancer.

Again, pure deception.

wrong, you don't get calcium from milk. you end up losing more calcium by drinking milk which is why the USA, the highest dairy consumer also has the highest bone fractures. undisputed facts.

in regards to organic milk, those cows are still on a protein diet instead of their natural diet of green grass. What is your definition of organic milk? and what the hell does it matter if the milk is raw when the cow is pumped with hormones? same thing.

wrong, you don't get calcium from milk. you end up losing more calcium by drinking milk

Link me to the studies that show this. Skim milk could cause this, but whole milk (or raw milk) wouldn't since the fat helps the absorption of calcium. Frankly, no one should be consuming reduced-fat milks to begin with.

which is why the USA, the highest dairy consumer also has the highest bone fractures

Another case of affirming the consequent. Your argument is invalid. The bone fractures are largely caused by consumption of sodium-fluoride.

in regards to organic milk, those cows are still on a protein diet instead of their natural diet of green grass.

Milk that isn't conventional is from cows that either eat grains or grass. The milk that I purchase is from grass-fed cows.

What is your definition of organic milk?

Organic certification, save for cheater brands like Horizon that make use of legal loopholes. Cows that are given pasture, fed a diet of either grain or grass that is not treated with pesticides and non-GMO, no rBGH, no antibiotics.

and what the hell does it matter if the milk is raw when the cow is pumped with hormones?

Raw milk comes from cows that are not treated with rBGH.

You just demonstrated that you know very little about milk other than what you parrot from other sites. In nutrition, the quality of a product means everything.

raw milk is unpasteurized milk, it doesn't mean that the cow was green fed. exactly legal loopholes such as horizon so Organic isn't uniform. It is you that lacks nutrition information. I have posted above so many different links that milk causes you to lose calcium.

Cows' milk is rich in phosphorous which can combine with calcium -- and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk. The milk protein also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys.

According to the research conducted by PCRM, milk consumption later in life actually contributes to calcium loss. Research has demonstrated that people in countries with a lower animal calcium intake (less than 500 mgs/day) have a significantly lower bone fracture rate when compared to countries with the highest intake of animal products, such as the USA (more than 1,200 mgs/day).

http://www.pcrm.org/magazine/gm05spring/milk_myth.html

Raw milk is just straight milk, not pasteurized, not homogenized. Most raw milks available are grass fed. The milk I buy is only grass fed, and frankly I think all milk should be grass fed since that gives it much more nutrition.

Organic is uniform save for the well known cheater brands.

Posting "links" is hardly the same as posting studies. The links you post are discredited and deliberately deceitful. The PCRM especially loves to engage in deceit with regard to animal products. Quality matters in food. You've yet to admit that different quality milk will cause different problems. Conventional milk is certainly poison, raw milk is hardly that. Like I've said before, by your own logic, vegetables cause alzheimers.

Research has demonstrated that people in countries with a lower animal calcium intake (less than 500 mgs/day) have a significantly lower bone fracture rate when compared to countries with the highest intake of animal products, such as the USA (more than 1,200 mgs/day).

You're still affirming the consequent, sorry, I thought you understood by now that that's a fallacy of logic.

no, it isn't a fallacy of logic buy you avoiding the obvious.

This is very simple. Like I keep saying ad nauseum, food quality is paramount when discussing nutrition. To lump all foods under one category is horribly dishonest at worst and terribly naive at best. GMO Corn is different from conventional corn, which is different from organic corn. There are studies showing different effects from each, and as such, it would be fallacious to point to the GMO corn and say "all corn causes the same problems as this corn".

You are continually relying on a fallacy of logic called affirming the consequent which is the belief that correlation implies causation, which just isn't in any sense of the imagination true. You are saying that milk causes osteoporosis, and because Americans suffer from this greatly and drink a lot of milk, that therefore, the milk is to be blamed.

This is a very oversimplified view of nutrition (fallacy aside). Calcium absorption is aided by vitamin D and magnesium, both of which Americans are highly deficient in. What adds to this, is things like poor physical activity, poor nutrition, and (as I said before) regular consumption of sodium fluoride. You are ignoring all of these figures and myopically focusing on just milk.

Need I remind you that spinach blocks calcium absorption (which is why it's always been paired with dairy, coincidentally. Much like how the Japanese pair the thyroid-disrupting tofu with seaweed)? It seems by your own logic that spinach should then be completely avoided. Most foods that are taken in excess will cause imbalance and disease; plant or animal.

'big deal, anyone can take a little class and obtain a nutrition certificate. my trainer did it.'

so why did you go to that trainer if you put no faith in thwm?

Felix conveniently chooses not to reply to this one. Nicely done.

Convenient is certainly the word. Unlike Felix, I have a background in nutrition and I've read the actual studies. All Felix can do is repeat garbage from propaganda sites.

big deal, anyone can take a little class and obtain a nutrition certificate. my trainer did it. you need to explain your horizon beyond the nutrition guide provided by the govt via the corporate evil. it is obviously it's not working since USA has such a large obesity rate even in children. must be all the drink in the school lunch.

A piece of paper doesn't mean much, Felix. You'll notice that I'm not trying to appeal to authority here. Secondly, I'm not going by the USDA's screwy version of nutrition (I was lectured on that by Marion Nestle, of all people). The US has skyrocketing obesity because of shitty food, distorted sense of nutrition, and a lack of exercise.

and by trainer you mean technician that programs you every morning to copy and past from other (non)news sites and blogs.

thank you for copying and pasting off another site- AGAIN:

http://www.skrewtips.com/2007/09/14/cow’s-milk-is-a-white-poison-itll-kill-you-and-your-family/

robot!

youngpro is valeriob, has to be, since both of them google my comments. LOL

for the 7th time, im not valeriob.

gothamist would be more than happy to prove it if they had the calories needed to burn the energy it would take to make you stfu.

thank you.

I'm not sure about that youngpro, felix gave us some pretty convincing arguments. He posted two links proving that you are valeriob, one link went to a post made by someone named Erica and the other one showed that someone deleted their facebook page. Yep, pretty convincing.

lol is that sarcasm? seriously, though, im NOT VALERIOB

The delivery was sarcasm, but he did actually post that, I forget where, but made no sense to me.kinda fUnnY hE bUstEd yoU! (mOre saRcAsiM)

Do you all all day for me to post on Gothamist. What a nut case. But then again what do I expect from someone who pretend to be a lawyer? LOL

please re-type with something that makes makes sense sense.

The robots have demanded that you stop slandering them. You're being ridiculous anyway. It's obvious that felix is actually none other than Robert Cohen himself. Notice the similarities. The complete and utter disrespect for copyright. The twisting of facts to suit his point. The way he makes things up. The way that when you disagree with him in a civil manner, you still incur personal attacks. Sound at all familiar?

cant be robert cohen.

cohen could obviously use a spell check and would demonstrate his english grammar skills felix fails to show.

and 'robert cohen' sounds more jewy than the 'fiery hot blooded latino' felix claims to be.

Yikes!

Felix has less credibility than the bubble boy dad. I mean, it's hard to stand out as uniquely ignorant on the internet, but this stuff is just priceless.

This was stated by Dr. Benjamin Spock and he isn't the only doctor who states the same illness/diseases related to milk.

Sounds like Cohen and felix are a match made in Heaven.

I'm going to buy some white creamy liquid from a stranger at a secret meeting place. What could go wrong?

do you know what your talking about? i dont think you do... farmers are good people with whole hearts, not capitalist assholes out to get cash moni. wake up and do your homework, donald trump.

I think you're kidding, but if not...how the hell do you know these random people are farmers? They could put some regular milk in a bottle, add some stuff to make it taste a little different and claim it is "raw milk."

Sorta like the time Frank Reynolds told Sweet Dee and Charlie that they were eating human meat.

There's a distinct difference between Raw milk and regular milk. Saying that they're just selling random milk is a ludicrous conspiracy theory.

farmers are good people? based on what?

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/farmer-to-face-court-for-animal-cruelty-20100218-of5g.html

This farmer killed 31 cows. I often read such reports on the new sites and these are just the reported ones, many are unreported.

You're affirming the consequent again. Way to show you've got no argument.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/oct/19/research.highereducation1

Www.notmilk.com, milk is detrimental to your health.