Young Brooklyn Boy Killed by Yeshiva School Bus

This prick really is a piece of work, not only is he making an ass of himself here, he had the nerve to go to the vosizneias.com website and start his shit there too!

"ANOTHER story of a child being harmed by a bus or car.......all the protests for childrens safety against BIKES, and I have YET to see a story of a child getting hurt by a passing biker..."

THat is you! What a miserable, neurotic little fuck you are. MAY YOU GET RUNOVER BY A CAR!

No that wasn't me, and I hadn't heard of that website. I spend most of my time in three dimensions but I'll check it out sooner or later. Thanks.

Hahahaha ! I guess that was an F.U. To Taffey Dollar !

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Well at least I know how to continue a thread properly. But if you want to jump down here to avoid answering my question to you above, fine.

To your first point: I do know that there was not an adult holding the kid's hand in the street, because if so the adult would have been hit too. Or, more likely, no one would have been hit since the adult would be taller and more visible. That's why children need to be supervised and protected, but as others have also pointed out the Hasidic community does not see the value in this.

To your second point: As I said above, the Sids are the ones who made the safety of their children a political issue and said that bicyclists are the threat. They started this war of words and I will point out their hypocrisy.

I have to correct you on one of your points . It's not the issue of the safety of the children as the reason used to justify nullifying those bike lanes, It's the farce of "Safety" that's being used ! As for the Jews behind the wheel, They are reckless ! They believe YOU should Stop,& Wait for them to either pass, Or decide what they want to do when there driving . As for Pedestrians, Get in there way and they might clip you as they turn their vehicles towards you . I see these near hits daily . It's like they know if they hit you there going to be charged and make a concerted attempt to miss hitting you ! Like some sick twisted version of Chicken !

Ok, maybe the thread thing was another Moveable Type issue, since I clicked reply on your comment but it didn't show up as it should. I retract that critique, but none of the others. Peace.

go fuck yourself

YOUR ONE BIG FUNKIN PIG

WITH NO FELLINGS TO PEOPLE WHO JUST LOST THEIR BABY CHILD

I see here what religion does to a mind.

"I don't know the kid's family, I'm not part their community,"

But you keep yammering about how this particular kid's parents "negligence" resulted in his death. As if you were there.

No, that doesn't make you a judgmental asshole in the least.

"I have plenty of my own mourning to do. I'm sorry they have theirs, but I can't share in it."

But you were able to take the time & energy away from your own "mourning" to be the first one to jump on a comment board and make a shitty, snarky remark about a little boy's death.

What a class act you are.

oh how awful.

I have seen way too many close calls with vehicles in that neighborhood. I avoid this area as much as I can and will confidently say that this area has the worse drivers in the borough of Brooklyn! So drivers, bikers, and pedestrians be careful when in the area!

You know ... sometimes an accident is just an accident.

Sometimes it is negligence and/or carelessness.

Terrible. Those bus drivers are a fucking menace.

Tragic, but not so tragic that anything meaningful will be done to enforce motor vehicle traffic laws. Delivery drivers are particularly aggressive in this town, drivers running just-turned-red lights is routine all over the city, and drivers who kill or maim pedestrians are let off the hook by simply declaring "I see/hear/feel nothing".

It will happen again and the same excuses will be trotted out. The media and most folks will quickly forget this tragedy.

Except for the family of the dead.

A delivery guy slipped on ice in the street and was almost crushed by a truck on Smith Street last night in a similar scenario. Luckily, he rolled out of the way in time. It was terrifying. Condolences to this child's family.

tragic, the boy was tiny and slipped so I guess the driver couldn't see him but didn't the driver at least feel the impact? RIP

I live in this neighborhood and I have had several close encounters with schoolbuses. It is commonplace to see them run red lights and barrell through intersections in the mornings.

Simply heartbreaking. Thoughts and prayers to the family. I can't imagine the nightmare they are going through right now.

Terribly sad. I fell on the ice today as well, it's precarious out there today. Get a pair of Yaktrax, they're really good for clumsy oaf's like myself.

Having spent some time in that neighborhood, I can attest to the fact that many of the parents don't keep an eye on their kids. They have so many that they can't keep track of them and just let them run around.

Yeah, and kids everywhere have been doing that forever and still humanity rolls on.

This can't be right. It had to have been another one of those menacing bicyclists.

YOU GET THE GOTHAMIST DOUCHE-BAG AWARD OF THE DAY.

w/ extra points for your continual defending of your original DUMB FUCKING COMMENT.

I'm betting that none of those criticizing me (and willfully misinterpreting me) are Jewish. I am. There's no need to kowtow to religious extremists just to avoid seeming antisemitic.

And of course I think it's a tragedy, but I'll also bet that none of you shedding online tears for the boy are going to be part of the minyan.

I am Jewish, and IF YOU WERE BORN A JEW you are a DISGRACE to Judaism.



You are a moron who used the death of a child to advance his fear and hatred of Orthodox Jews.

IF YOU WERE BORN A JEW you should wrap some bacon around your pathetic shmeckel, convert out and set it on fire.

"... kowtow to religious extremists just to avoid seeming antisemitic.":

BLAH BLAH BLAH, sounds like a "liberated" jino who needs to pat himself on the back while he smokes dope /sucks down a ham and cheese sandwich while watching porn on Shabbos with his shiksa.

And all your dancing about "they don't watch their too many children / deserve it over fighting biker lanes...

THE CHILD SLIPPED AND FELL ON THE ICE.

"And of course I think it's a tragedy"

THEN STOP DANCING ON HIS DEATH, INSULTING HIS FAMILY AND HIS COMMUNITY.

" but I'll also bet that none of you shedding online tears for the boy are going to be part of the minyan."

Did you go to his levaya? What minyan do you go to? AT THE MOSQUE? OR AT THE ACORN office?

I'll bet you haven't made a minyan since your Bar Mitzvah.

Come back when you have cancer or are about to lose a parent, then you can cry and whine to G-d "I'm sorry, I didn't mean it" and you can make teshuva for all the pain you caused Jews.

Well how do I reply to such well reasoned logic as that? You only made two real points with all that typing so:

1. Obviously I'm an atheist, duh. I'm a grown-up and don't believe in fairy tales. If you want to believe in a magic guy in the sky, fine, but don't use it as an excuse to neglect your children.

2. The Sids are the ones who made the safety of their children a political issue, and said that bicyclists are the threat. So I damn well will point out that they are a far greater danger to their own kids, as well as humans of all ages.

You will also continue to show what an asshole you are by referring to them as "The Sids" (I can only imagine what you call Latinos or the Japanese), which is why no one takes you seriously and everyone thinks you're just a blowhard moving a lot of steam. It says to me that you don't like them on some deep-seated root level, and it goes way beyond the way they drive.

I have nothing against Latinos or Japanese or any ethnic group. I have a beef with religious extremists of all kinds, so if a Latino or a Japanese community becomes, say, part of the Fundamentalist Mormon group, then yeah, I'd mock them.

Any set of beliefs that leads people to regularly put lives in danger and refuse to take personal responsibility is juvenile at best and dangerous at worst. And when they attack any community I'm a part of, well, all I can say is I have a memory.

Hunter - you're dangerous because you're paranoid. Get help.

"And when they *attack* any community I'm a part of, well, all I can say is I have a memory." Attack? ATTACK?!? You are being attacked by the Chasidic community?

"And when they attack any community I'm a part of, well, all I can say is I have a memory." And what exactly do you do with these memories?

Well, there's regular vehicular assault, whether I'm on bike or foot; and then there was the accusation that I and other bicyclists endanger their children: a pretty serious and baseless charge. What do I do? I point out their hypocrisy.

Yup, you're a hero...

"Obviously I'm an atheist, duh"

Then STFU with all your "minyan" BS.

"So I damn well will point out that they are a far greater danger to their own kids, as well as humans of all ages."

You''re truly a pig, you know that? There's a special place in hell for scum like you.

IT'S CALLED "YOUR LIFE".

Well, you know nothing about my life so I can't take that seriously. Rest assured (or dismayed if you wish) that I'm quite happy. Since you won't argue against my actual points and you resort to profane personal attacks (is that a religious thing?), I'll take that as an admission that you have no point.

Enough with your bullshit. You post is pathetic.

You are wrong.

Act like a grownup and apologize.

Nuff said

Apologize for what? For insisting that people should drive more carefully and not leave it up to G-d? For remembering that they keep claiming it's bicyclists who put their kids at risk, when in fact they run down their own (and others) out of carelessness?

You're the ones twisting my words and saying that I think the kid deserved to die, so you should apologize. He wasn't a fundamentalist, he was in the process of being taught to become one. And he'll never get the chance to grow up and question the dogma he was taught.

I just think killing is wrong is all, whether through intent or negligence. And putting things in the hands of some fairy tale superbeing in the sky - as many of these so called adults do, even when operating a dangerous machine - is negligence.

Also, as eatvegans said, they don't supervise their children well. Little kids are out in public at all hours, unattended by adults. That's also G-d's responsibility, I suppose.

Bringing up bike lanes and fundementalism when a kid gets killed by a bus? Way to be a judgmental asshole, lacking any compassion or value for life. (You sure you're Jewish?)

Can't wait to read about your brutal mugging on Gothamist that ends up with you in a coma. Then I can say "Oh well, that's what Americans get for glorifying violence all the time."

And nobody needs to be Jewish to realize you're a grade-A prick.

What I brought up is that these people endanger their kids all the time, and then they go and say that people riding bikes is a threat to their kids. I value life. I take care of kids. But yes, I'm judgmental too. Everyone is - you have to make judgments every day, every moment. It's when people go around claiming to be "nonjudgmental" that they make judgments carelessly. "Can't wait to read about your brutal mugging on Gothamist that ends up with you in a coma" is an example of what such a person might say.

It's when people go around claiming to be "nonjudgmental" that they make judgments carelessly.

Ooohh... "I know you are, but what am I?"

I'm judgmental too. Everyone is - you have to make judgments every day, every moment.

The difference between "making judgements every day" and being a judgmental asshole is... oh fuck it, why even bother.

Ok, let me get this straight. Which one of my judgments here do you have a beef with? That children should be supervised with adults? That people should drive more carefully? That religious fundamentalism (leaving these things up to G-d) makes people less responsible?

I'm sorry I'm not bawling my eyes out over it, but I don't know the kid's family, I'm not part their community, and I have plenty of my own mourning to do. I'm sorry they have theirs, but I can't share in it.

And I do have to ask why they feel it is acceptable to behave so recklessly.

Would you like to inspect our papers, or find out if at least one of our grandparents are Jewish? I kid of course (but not really.)

Well if not, you better be a Jesuit if you're gonna win this argument. I also kid, but not really. Some cultures are just better at debating than others.

sorry didnt mean to comment on hunter blatherer

Sad, really fucking sad. Hasidic/Orthodox parents: I know God commanded you to go forth and multiply but please keep track of your many many offspring, even if that means tying them together. The combo of many (sometimes unattended) kids and giant road blocking Yeshiva busses in Williamsburg has been a deadly combo for a long time.

Yeah, they have soooooooooooo many kids you'd think you'd hear about them getting killed every day, but you don't, and they're not, so why don't you take your preachy, anti-chasidic, smug comment and shove it?

I am Jewish and proud. There was nothing anti Hasidic about what I wrote. Young kids are hit by cars A LOT in that neighborhood, MORE than in other areas. Coincidence? Look at facts first. There has been a traffic problem there for a long time. And if you think that being careful about letting 4-7 year olds run into the street in Brooklyn is being PREACHY, I hope you never have kids, because you will be a terrible parent.

Do you also love Christian and Islamic fundamentalists? Or just the Jewish ones?

Oh sure, because Jewish Fundamentalists are blowing up buildings and cutting womens' clits off and making sure young girls don't receive an education and building arsenals to destroy other countries and generally destabilizing regions.

Yup, Chasidim = Al Queda. Oh sure...

Grow the fuck up idiot and get an education.

I said fundamentalists, not terrorists. All religious fundamentalism leads to dangerous behavior.

"I said fundamentalists, not terrorists." - Fair enough, I see my mistake.

"All religious fundamentalism leads to dangerous behavior." - Disgusting over-generalization.

If someone thinks God will protect them no matter what, they're more likely to behave dangerously. Generalization, yes, and I know there are exceptions, but this is the attitude of many Sids.

Yeah, little Amron Altman, 4 fucking years old deserved it because he was fundamentalist scum good riddance?

You are a rabid, foaming at the mouth, hateful little fuck.

*Grabs more Popcorn ,and watches the bickering *

No, this is exactly where you're going.

This is a tragedy for everyone involved. No one deserves this because of their religious beliefs.

You should get some help.

Not what I said at all, and your comments are the ones that read as rabid. Obviously he didn't deserve it, but maybe Sid drivers (and most of the Sid buses are driven by Sids) should reexamine how they drive. But I doubt they will.

oh, so the death of a small child is ripe with comedic potential? get some standards asshole.

Agree this guy is a blathering idiot. Bicyles and bikelanes have nothing to do with this. If this is the attitude of bikelane pushers, I am against you.



I live in this area and having had several close calls myself, can say that the bus drivers are totally out of control and have no respect for pedestrians. It is a seriously dangerous situation and something like this was inevitable. Also, it is similar to the incident sparking the Crown Hts riots. Maybe now, that tragedy has visited their community, they will be more careful. How sad that it takes a somthing of this proportion to raise awarness.

My sympathies to the family and the entire community.

No, it's the attitude of normal Jews against rabid fundamentalists. And this incident will change nothing. They will still drive recklessly, because "G-d will protect them." Actual quote from a Sid driver I chastised for running a red light to get to the next one more quickly.

No, it is your intolerant, immature, self-hating attitude.

Keep on talking the more you do, the more you show yourself to be an asshole.

It wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to be a dig against the Sids and their misguided priorities. To put it kindly.

Would their priorities be properly channeled if they were the same as yours?