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Still Not Safe to Rest Feet on Seat!

No matter how deserted your subway train may be, you can't still afford to get comfortable by putting your feet up: It seems that transit police have not eased up on their late night ticket blitz against any rider occupying more than one seat. Last year saw a 17% spike in tickets for that crime, and it looks like the trend continues in 2010. One of the more recent violators is a 17-year-old Stuyvesant HS student who got a $50 ticket two weeks ago on his way home from a birthday party. It was 2 a.m., and there were four people other in the subway car when he dared rest his feet on the edge of an empty seat.

The student, Irvin Khaytman, says he was getting off the D train to transfer to the N at the 36th Street station in Brooklyn when he was stopped by a diligent police officer. "He said he saw my feet on the edge of the seat next to me," Khaytman tells the Post. "He said putting your feet on a seat is nasty, and since I was nasty, I deserved a ticket." Well, if they're going to crack down on nastiness, maybe the NYPD can at least round up people who clip their fingernails in the subway, too?

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  • canchita

    This morning's pleasure - V train from Forest Hills. The triple (orange) seats. Two very big people, legs spread wide open to accomodate huge shopping bags, giving thin passenger furious glare when she attempted to sit down in the middle seat. (Most of the three across seats are taken up by two selfish people). In the diagonal seat woman doing full make up, from moisturizer to eyelash curler to mascara. I can only assume she is homeless.

  • snickerdoodle

    I wish the cops were around to ticket all the bums and buskers harassing the morning rush hour folks with their begging and bad music. Every morning on the 2 and 3 trains downtown, they are there, getting in everyone's face and way. Where are the cops? Last I knew begging on the subway was illegal.

  • CaptainWillard

    Umm, begging on the subway (or on the street for that matter) is NOT illegal. Infact, it is CONSTITUTIONALLY protected...

  • mingusahum

    Chill out people, its just some feetles on the seatles. clipping nails...yeah that's no good. putting your feet on a seat at 2am...c'monnnnnnnnn

  • jackmurphy

    this and should be ticketed, but officers shouldn't be sent out on ticket blitzes in the middle of the night. As mentioned, if they come across this and ticket it, then great - they should be enforcing laws they see being broken. But we all know cops routinely ignore minor infractions cause they're too lazy to deal with it.



    This is clearly all about increasing revenue. And IIRC from the last time this was reported, tickets were also issued for taking up multiple seats on empty trains, not strictly for shoes on the seats.



    I wonder what else was going on underground while these cops were taking the time to write these tickets.

  • S.K.

    "I wonder what else was going on underground while these cops were taking the time to write these tickets."



    While the cops were writing a ticket to the Stuy High student, a homeless bum was relieving himself between the train cars.

  • jackmurphy

    Oh great, I'm glad subway crime has been eliminated.

  • Ed

    Ahh, yes 36 Street in Brooklyn. This is the same Station where two of the Same NYPD officers tell me almost every night around 2-2:30am on my way home from work "Hey lower your headphones". Last time I checked there was no rule on headphone DB levels on the MTA website, and God forbid you remind these officers about the rules, last Fridays response was "Don't make me lock you up". I've filed a CCRB complaint a few months ago just to see these two same Bully's again! Here's the Deal, NYPD officers protect Themselves and No One Else! They make up there own rules when it suits them, and they all have quotas to make. Last Monday leaving from 36 street on a Manhattan bound D Train

    an officer tried to issue me a seat ticket because my iPod headphone wire was on the seat next to me, it was 2:30 in the afternoon and there was 8 fellow passengers in my car. The Officer gave me a dirty look opened up his ticket book, I took out my cellphone started to take pictures of myself, placed my headphone wire on my lap, and started to play the staring game. Then the officer grunted then closed his book. Remember next time your getting mugged the NYPD will not be there for you, they'll show up 20 min's after the fact, right after issuing a Seat ticket on an Empty subway car at 3:00 am. Don't trust the NYPD! After all they don't Trust you! In there eyes your already guilty...

  • CaptainWillard

    Ed, you are WRONG! MTA rules state in "Section 1050.7 Disorderly conduct. No person on or in any facility or conveyance shall: create any sound through the use of any sound production device... Use of radios and other devices listened to solely by headphones or earphones and INAUDIBLE to others is permitted." So, if the Officer can hear it, then it is not inaudible, and you are breaking the rules. Therefore he can tell you to turn it down. Your bogus CCRB only adds to the problem...

  • Nyctini11

    CW, couldn't agree more! I enjoy reading... YES, people, READING, MORE should try it instead of complying to Govt's way of turning us all into chimps. nothing erks me more than when i'm trying to read and some inconsiderate/selfish/unintelligble/cheap-ass-can't-buy-a real-pair-of-headphones a$$hole cheats me of my QUIET time to read(outside of normal noise)cause i have to hear the sh!t they're blaring into the ears.

  • Nyctini11

    ^THEIR ears

  • vespavirgin

    This kid goes to Stuyvesant, so I'm assuming he's not stupid. Everyone knows the cops are handing out tickets for people putting their feet up on seats.

  • brooklynmouthoff

    Act like an adult.

  • canchita

    I think that gradually all lines between what is public and what is private have disappeared. People eat smelly food, leave trash on the floor. Women do complete make-up construction on a daily basis. I actually saw a guy clip his toe nails. What happened to civilization?

  • Daily Toker

    Putting up your feet at the edge of another seat isn't anything serious.

  • whitecastlerock

    it's a shame there are police on the subways @ 2AM... A crying shame

  • S.K.

    Only hardworking stiffs get ticketed. Homeless people don't get tickets for hogging seats, because the city can't make money off them, so the cops leave them alone.



    Maybe if dress up like a smelly bum, I can get all the subway seats I want.

  • pinball29

    The NYPD and Bloomberg are simply using the population of this city as an ATM machine to generate money toward thier corrupt and wasteful spending habits. It doesnt matter what infraction you commit, you will eventually be tapped to pay by these thugs. The ones complaining about feet on the chair (and yes, its wrong to do that) will scream bloody murder when its thier turn to get stopped and fined for some bogus reason.

  • freddynyc

    Ok, but is it within MTA guidelines to scratch one's balls (fully clothed of course) in a crowded subway?

  • schadenfreudian mensch

    As long as your naked balls don't touch the seat i'm fine. People will just think you have crabs so they'll just avoid you like any homeless shitting on the seat.

  • Pachinko

    I once had a Chinese woman clip her nails next to me on the plane. On the same flight a blond woman was painting her nails and the fumes permeated the back of the plane.

  • Ishtar

    Her being blond is relevant because? LOL

  • BackStJoe

    That picture accompanying this story is gross! Keep your nasty ass feet (in or out of shoes) off the damn seats. Keep up the good work NYPD and ticket these people who have no common decency.

  • Phineas Gage

    If you people are this concerned with dirt and germs and cleanliness, may I suggest that you might be happier living somewhere else? NYC is wonderful in many ways, but it's also a combination of an open sewer and a petri dish. So get over it, you babies.



    P.S. My immune system can kick your immune system's ass.

  • jibbly

    So you shouldn't mind if someone came into your home and threw their filthy shoes on your chairs and couch and bed?



    Yeah no shit, NYC is filthy, I've lived here my entire life. This doesn't negate the fact that contributing to the filth by being inconsiderate makes you an asshole.

  • Phineas Gage

    No, I would not mind, and I do not mind. I have my shoes on my sofa as I type this. You have unrealistic expectations regarding your environment, and you need to just accept that you are surrounded by nasty shit all the time no matter what you try to do about it. You cannot control your environment, and you cannot live in an operating room, psycho.

  • hotstepper

    doesn't sound like you get much company at home.



    and your filthy = tough philosophy is just weird fella.

  • Phineas Gage

    My girlfriend and I try to avoid stepping in turds when we walk around. Meanwhile, you are breathing the same filth you decry on your shoes. Get over it. Or bathe yourself in Lysol. I don't care.

  • hotstepper

    you have a strange fascination with filth fella. is this some hot fetish that i've yet to hear of? do tell.



    i'd love to come over with my greasy shit-kickers and do the mambo with you and your GF on your couch. hot!

  • jibbly

    Turds or not NYC streets are also covered in piss, puke, spit, garbage juice, and general miscellaneous waste. Let's not kid ourselves, throwing your shoes up on the couch after walking around the streets is flat out unsanitary and disgusting, no matter how blase you are about it.



    Again, it's your (diseased) apartment, no one is stopping you from being a slob. Just be mindful that there are plenty of us that share your sentiments on shoe cleanliness.

  • jibbly

    *Correction: ...that DON'T share your sentiments...

  • jibbly

    Deciding to be disgusting scumbag in your own home is your choice, go for the gold! However, keep your shit covered shoes off of public seats.

  • jibbly

    It's real simple, folks: The bottom of your shoes are filthy. Don't rest them on surfaces where other people sit, hold, or otherwise need to be less filthy than the bottom of your shoes.



    A related thing that irks me are guys (99.99999% are men) who slouch enough in their seat to throw their feet up onto the lower half of a pole. Most adults will never touch that part, but there are plenty of kids, mostly elementary school age, that will. While it may not kill the child, it's still disgusting.

  • Also not okay; spitting when indoors. Peeing in the corner. Screaming in people's faces. Throwing your empty Chinese food containers under the seat.



    WHEN WILL THIS ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE END?



    Or to put it another way: DO NOT PUT YOUR FEET ON THE SEAT I DO NOT CARE HOW EMPTY THE TRAIN IS.



    & while I'm at it:



    WALK ON THE RIGHT. ALL THE TIME! Walk on the right of the STAIRS, of the SIDEWALK, whereever! WALK ON THE RIGHT!!!

  • bigmikebrooklyn

    you know, not for nothin, but in Japan, everyone walks on the left. true fact. maybe it has to do with driving on the left, but everyone does.

  • Tell it to Tokyoist! Or rather, O-Tokyoist de hanashimasu ne! (I think, my Nihongo is like, mega rusty).

  • bigmikebrooklyn

    that would be o-tokyoist ni hanasemasu or

    お東京ーist に 話せます  (i think).

    and actually, dealing with cultural diversity is a great topic for a new york city news collection blog. (or have all the white suburbanites pushed everyone else out to jersey? I don't know, i'm too busy trying to afford my apartment to look, but i think i remember having good asian food in flushing recently)

  • I don't think it is really a cultural diversity issue; a fun fact, but I don't care (practically) that Brits drive on the left, either.

  • Spirit of 76

    Also through doors. There are usually "in" and "out" doors, designed to be pushed. Idiots like to walk through the wrong ones by pulling on the wrong door on the wrong side.

  • thewildpansy

    THIS ISN'T ABOUT TAKING UP ROOM IT'S ABOUT PUTTING YOUR FILTHY FEET ON THE SEAT, SO LEAVE YOUR UNINFORMED EDITORIAL OPINION TO YOURSELF!

  • AJ

    I was at jury duty recently and amongst the 100 or so people waiting to be called in the main room, someone in there was clipping their nails. Disgusting. I honestly could not believe it.

  • Sassafras75

    I used to work with someone (female) who would clip her fingernails while giving me my yearly review!

  • fishfryin

    putting your feet on the seat is totally rude, even if the train is empty. it's a seat not your bed or couch.

  • Ishtar

    I would like to see people ticketed for leaving garbage, especially food related, on the train. It's so gross AND it attracts roaches and mice even more now that they don't clean all the cars daily.

  • mzungu

    god, please ticket cutting finger nails.



    and how about stopping people from eating full course meals?



    and if we are going to ticket nastiness, can we PLEASE ticket people for pissing inside the trains!!!!

  • schadenfreudian mensch

    I would be happy if they just start ticketing people f'ing their chickens in the subway.

  • dwarbi

    wait, no pissing in the trains? you're taking this too far.

  • mzungu

    maybe i'm just jealous- it's not so easy for ladies to relieve themselves in the train. :p

  • Spirit of 76

    That's what Depends are for.

  • FelixtheCat & Christine Quinn'

    I hope they ticket Ford if he rides our trains, I don't want his smelly feet on the seats even if he has pedicures.

  • dwarbi

    The way this is written sounds like a defense of putting your feet on a seat. It is nasty. Somebody's going to sit there. I mean, subway seats aren't the cleanest to begin with, but do we need people to transfer dog shit to them too?



    I hope it is illegal to clip fingernails on the subway and they become diligent about enforcing that rule too. Sure, there are worse crimes being committed, but that's no reason to stop enforcing these ones.

  • petemac

    In defense of the post: I think the point is that the police are supposed to protect us, not make money for the city by giving out tickets @ 3AM for a minor offenses.



    That said: If the police happen to see someone on a busy train with their feet up on a seat, I'm all for giving them a ticket - its rude and gross.

  • dwarbi

    It's gross even if no one else is on the subway. And still against the law. If you don't like a law, work to repeal it. While in effect, it should be enforced. Fuzzy lines only lead to more problems (like the absurd "5 minute grace period" for parking offenses.)

  • hunter.blatherer

    If that's your attitude, you better not give directions to anyone, unless you're a tour guide.

  • dwarbi

    haha - and it looks like there could be a greater chance of poopieshoes: http://gothamist.com/2010/02/15/big_drop_in_the_number_of_pooper_sc.php

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