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Thin Walls No Match for Fornicating NYers, Survey Says

021210tango.jpg It's annoying enough that other people are getting some, but do they have to lord it over everyone with their vulgar caterwauling? Apparently so, because a survey of some 400 New Yorkers by Brick Underground suggests that most of us can hear our neighbors in the rut. More than two-thirds of the respondents say they're regularly subjected to the sounds of sex. What's to be done?

"It's like a train wreck—you have to stop what you're doing and listen, even if it's awful," Melissa Buck, 29, who lives on the Upper East Side, tells The Post. "A friend and I were cooking dinner at 6:30, while it was still light out, and we heard the neighbors. Why can you always hear the girl?" (So true! Guys, aren't you enjoying this? What's WRONG?)

Anyway, Buck's observation suggests it's not really thin walls that are to blame, but thoughtless, self-centered fornicators of the feminine gender. Ladies, next time you're lost in the throes of ecstasy, please take a moment to consider your neighbor, as he sits alone in a dark room on the other side of the wall, mere inches away from your naked body, listening intently to every shudder, moan and bang. Maybe he looks a little something like this?

Back to Buck, she says the noise "lasted probably 10 minutes, and we had to stop cooking and listen." And one Leslie Vandike of East New York, Brooklyn, has some advice for those driven to distraction by neighbors' amour. "Last summer, I was having a barbecue. Everybody was outside. Suddenly, we hear this loud screaming," he tells the Post. "Upstairs, our neighbor was having sex. Everybody was like, 'You go, girl,' cheering them on. We never heard anything else after that."

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  • Bike Rider

    my girl screams and yells. what the hell am i supposed to do about it? :/

  • wow 14th street

    "Ain't nothing like the real thing,baby"

    Them that's attractive gets it free.

    The others have to do Porn.

  • wow 14th street

    Altoid me thinks you won't make it to old age.

    You are still in contempt of older folks having

    a lucky long life and secondly you find old age

    in that contempt, ugly and scary and maybe a bit foreboding

    as far as your choice of needing Porn or adult films that

    to speaks a lot about you.





  • altoid

    oh i'm not in contempt of older folks having a long life, senior citizens having sex is just not something that would be appealing to be visually or mentally. why is that so hard for you to understand? and pornography is a billion dollar industry so if you're suggesting i have some type of issue because i watch it, well hey at least im in good company.





    :::resumes watching attractive lesbian (NOT OLD PEOPLE) porn dvd:::

  • nyorker555

    When you are ready to buy in NYC, buy in a building with concrete walls (pre 1990's typically). Otherwise you've got little more than drywall and steel beams between you and everyone else. You have been warned. . . . .

  • LB

    Hell , I've broken a few guys at my old job ! Lol, it happens ! You get that urge, and then all those hormones come rushing out ! Only thing missing from the pic is the two of them sharing a cigarette afterwards .

  • potsmoker

    tell da ho to bite pillow...

  • Malcolm Tucker

    What would you call "non sexy" music, by the by?

  • eat vegans

    wesley willis

  • wow 14th street

    If "Altoid" makes it to old age without complaint he/she/it

    would not be surprised that "senior citizens"have sex

    Age darling is not a sentence or a disease...it's luck.

    Old people should not scare you or shock you or make

    your azz feel uncomfortable.

  • altoid

    yeah im sure octogenarian porn is the highest grossing category when it comes to adult film.....not the image i want in my head...

  • Chu Chu Chuy

    I'm part of a loud gay couple and my neighbor is gay. I think he likes it...well I would if I heard him doing it. *I NEVER do* I'm just a perv though. Besides, I too enjoy hearing others *gay or straight* having sex. We're human! Oh and BTW, I don't think that the Romans had soundproofing.....

  • greenteaguy

    Are the people on here who are getting upset about hearing sex actually upset because they're not having sex? or at least good sex? It always puts a smile on my face to hear it. At least someone is having a good time.

  • NannyState

    Beats talking about hearing loud farts next door.

  • Steven

    duh. Living in the city on top on everyone you're going to hear weird noises, see stuff etc.

  • resa

    I was living in NJ. A couple moved in next door. She was very beautiful and pregnant, he much older, not at all beautiful and strange.



    They frequently fought at night and our walls were paper thin. Fortunately, the fights usually ended with him slamming the door for the 9th or 10th time and leaving. Like the gay couple who lived in the apartment before them, sometimes I heard them have sex. It usually didn't go on for a really long time. I just had to grin and bear it since my bedroom and their bedroom may as well have been the same room.



    One night, instead of hearing fighting or boring sex, I hear a man moaning and moaning and moaning and moaning very loudly. I knock on the wall after about an hour of this and they move into the living room. The moaning continues just as loudly. I go downstairs to my car to get my white noise machine. When I get downstairs, I notice that the husband's car isn't there, maybe he'd parked on the street that night or the car was in the repair shop. Whatever. At this point, I was too pissed off to think about it.



    I could hear the man moaning as I re-entered the building, all the way down on the first floor. I (and my noisy neighbors) lived on the third floor. This pregnant woman had it going on!



    The next day, I called our super and without getting into detail, told her that the couple was making too much noise at night. The super promised me that she would speak to the couple. Two days later, she calls me back and tells me that the couple is moving out. It appears that the husband had gotten violent his wife, the police were called and he was arrested.



    That's when I realized that the moaner wasn't her husband



    I call this story, "How I broke up a marriage".

  • That's a hell of a story!

  • altoid

    thank god i havent heard any of my neighbors do it the majority of people in my building are senior citizens...

  • Jason

    ball gag her.

  • nice job

    thanks gothamist! i just got fired!

  • Horse Badorties

    As one of those loud fornicators, I apologize for the noise.

  • eat vegans

    Me too. But I always felt that if you could be having as much fun, you would be. :p

  • Over the River

    Maybe if you had 55" of snow on the ground you wouldn't hear them getting it on. :)

  • stonecoldblonde

    Life in the big city people! And it's ALWAYS the ones who aren't getting any complaining the loudest.

  • Jakal

    In college, a friend of mine would play 2 Live Crew's "Me So Horny" at full volume anytime he heard the neighbors having sex.

  • wow 14th street

    Oddly enough the guy next door does his Thang

    vary loud ,it's a solo of some sort.



    We just make the dogs bark loud when he is playing

    with his whats-it,now the dogs are trained to hear

    him when he starts,it is now a no brainer.

  • jaycjay

    Really, people are shocked to have been exposed to a still from Last Tango in Paris? It's like we've been transported back to 1972!

  • Clarice City

    Pubic hair was out of control back then. I, too, am offended.

  • Clarice City

    We're all getting fired today.

  • nycraf

    It's not them being prudes.



    It's that many people may be using work computers to view gothamist at work during down time or a break. Stuff like this will lead to Gothamist being added to the block list.

  • jaycjay

    Doesn't really change the point. It's still about somebody finding a still from a film released in 1972 too graphic to be viewed at work.



    Ah well... I'm glad I don't work wherever you guys do.

  • Sara

    I used to have a neighbor whose every move I heard. He was my deciding factor in moving out of my cute little studio. I blogged about it... http://sarafine.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/a-note-to-my-former-neighbor/

  • yamon

    I'm much more bothered by my cubicle mate's blaring gospel music then anything going on under the covers in my apt. building.

  • LongShanks

    Really, can someone please tell us where that pic is from??

  • AYCE

    from the 1972 film "Last Tango in Paris" with Marlon Brando and Maria Schneider.

  • So now if you have a dog that, god forbid, barks or if you enjoy intercourse and perhaps music there's pretty much no place for you to live in NYC.

  • bitchincamaro

    I've trained my dog to bark while my wife and I have sexy time. The more heated, the louder the barking. If you hear the dog-a-barkin', don't come-a-knarkin'.

  • moonbeam

    Actually, if you have a dog that barks all the time or play really loud music, there's pretty much no place for you to live in any city.

  • Thinky Think

    (Whistle) That is one sexy pic!

  • Thinky Think

    I truly thought I was the only one with this problem. In my case its the guy who moans loadly and it sounds disgusting. Its even worse because they are both so verrrryyyy unattractive!

  • NannyState

    I got a new neighbor now that screams. Not during sex or anything. She just screams.

  • Clarice City

    We have two cranky fat old dikey lesbiens downstairs. We smell some pot and then hear the Billie Holiday kick on and before you know it..."Ughhhhhhhhh." Just once. But enough to make me cringe a little.

  • FJF

    The only ones complaining are the ones not getting any.

  • Thespis

    Which would be...pretty much everyone here, so...

  • FJF

    Speak for yourself.

  • Kojak

    Bingo.

  • ChampionOfTheSun

    Listening to neighbors screw isn't that bad, and it usually doesn't go on very long. It's way better than listening to their annoying little dog bark all day.

  • 40oz.killa

    Lets talk about sex baby~ Lets talk about you and me~ lets talk about all the good things; all the bad things...

  • ProfessorVonNostren

    My upstairs neighbors have no regard for the people around them. I'm used to noise, but what they subject us to is ridiculous. What disturbs me most is I now have intimate knowledge of their habits an patterns. If they're going to include me in their threesome, they could at least invite me up.

  • Malcolm Tucker

    Shout "Wow, that was quick!" after the neighbors finish their loud sex. Tends to quiet them down.

  • maevemealone

    I actually did for a while turn my stereo speakers toward the wall and play really non sexy music. At least I couldn't hear them the music anymore.

  • How Ya Doin

    Let's complain about everything! Since when did NYers get so fucking touchy.

  • hotstepper

    when they decided to forgo actual human contact for electronic gadgets and "social" media...really cuts down on the frequency of stress relieving hot-lovin'.

  • Tower18

    WHY IS "Receive email notification of further comments" CHECKED BY DEFAULT? Jesus, and now that I've selected it, how do I make it stop???



    What the fuck, Gothamist.

  • jaycjay

    "now that I've selected it, how do I make it stop???"



    Pretty simple: when you get an email notification, just click the unsubscribe link at the bottom.



    Of course, you'll have to do it for each article for which you've subscribed, which is why I just set up a filter to send anything from info@gothamistllc to trash.

  • Tower18

    Yeah I actually just saw that. I hadn't even opened all the emails, I was just deleting them as they came in.

  • Dirk

    Agreed. Receive email notifications should be OFF by default.

  • Dirk

    I only last about 3 minutes tops, so I don't think it bothers the neighbors much.

  • bellsandasiren

    "A friend and I were cooking dinner at 6:30, while it was still light out, and we heard the neighbors."



    What, people aren't supposed to screw during daylight hours? Whatever happened to the "welcome home from work, girlfriend" cunnilingus? Or the "have a nice day at the office" morning sex?



    If I only had sex when it was dark out, I'd be one unhappy woman.

  • nycraf

    You forgot about Afternoon Delight.

  • JenChungsBaby

    Good thing your man isn't afflicted with vampirus erectus.

  • virgilstarkwell

    another related story...



    i was in a coffee shop recently looking to glom off of someone's non-password-protected wifi and noticed that someone named their network "we can hear you having sex".



    passive-aggressive, to be sure, but i imagine somewhat effective.

  • valeriob

    One of my neighbors' wifi is called "SODOMY", in all caps.

    Not sure what's going on there but I'm not going to go lookin for the answer either.

  • JenChungsBaby

    I update my wireless network SSID like most people update their Facebook page:



    "About to take out garbage in my underwear"

    "Who's cooking with garlic"

    "Turn down that damned TV"

    "Do you smell smoke"

  • hotstepper

    hahahah! good stuff guys.

  • hotstepper

    i like your stories.

  • virgilstarkwell

    i used to live in an apartment beneath a gay couple and one of the partners did everything loud - watch tv, talk on the phone, get f*cked in the ass, etc.



    one day, i ran into the quieter of the two on the street and he asked if i ever heard anything from their apartment. i said that, yes, in fact i did.



    "what do you hear?"

    "everything."

    "everything?"

    "EVERYTHING"



    he got very bashful and it was quiet up there from that point on. i guess he became the bottom.

  • Jen S

    Thin walls haven't been a problem in my current place, but the couple that screws with their window open shares their love with everyone in earshot.

  • Gothampc

    Yes, open windows during the Summer is a big problem in my building. And the way our building is set up, the bedrooms all face toward the airshaft, so all noise echoes in the airshaft canyon.

  • Jen S

    Same, at our place, all the bedroom windows open into the courtyard. Urban planning fail.

  • maevemealone

    I have a huge problem with my neighbor and her sexing all the time. I can't even be in the other room without hearing her scream (and being spanked)! I'm partially convinced that she's an escort bc it's at such odd times of the day and I have heard the guy leave ten minutes after the final scream. I debate at what point to complain to the co-op bc I suspect she doesn't have enough soundproofing (rugs, furniture etc) considering I also hear every conversation she has as well.

  • streber



    If you can hear every conversation your neighbor has, don't get mad at your neighbor... invest in sound insulation.



    You live in a poorly built building. Fix the sound insulation issue. Don't try to 'fix' your neighbor.

  • maevemealone

    I've lived here almost as long as she has and it wasn't always like this. I believe she has changed her apartment set up so that sound is not as muffled. She's certainly pushed her bed up against the shared wall. Also, she yells a lot on the phone, I don't hear normal level conversation. I don't think I should have to build a fortress in my tiny apartment to avoid hearing the broadcast of her life.

  • streber



    "I don't think I should have to build a fortress in my tiny apartment to avoid hearing the broadcast of her life."





    You shouldn't have to... and if you paid attention to the build quality of the place before you bought, then you wouldn't have to.



    But, go ahead... start a little war with your neighbor. Good luck with that.



    (or you could fix the actual problem)

  • AYCE

    How can one solve such a problem, short of moving out or ripping out their sheetrock walls and stuffing them with soundproof insulation?

    (no intent to sound sarcastic or confrontational...just curious for a solution)

  • maevemealone

    I have what I thought were thick plaster walls, it's an old building. I can't even get a nail in the wall(har!). And like douchebag streber chooses to ignore, it wasn't like this for several years so I don't WANT to start a war with her, but I also don't think she's aware that I can actually hear EVERYTHING she's doing over there. I imagine she can hear my side just as clearly. We never meet in the hallway and I don't really want to bang on her door mid coitus.

  • streber



    Sound transmission is a well-understood science. Do a little reading.



    If you can hear your neighbor talking, I doubt it has to do with rugs.



    Just because you can't put a nail in your wall doesn't mean sound can't transfer. There could be other holes (and don't forget the floors and ceiling).



    Think of sound like water... if water can get through, so can sound... no matter how hard the plaster where you'd like to hang a picture.



    You think I'm a douchebag? Guess what? _My_ next door neighbor has no idea when I play drums at 4 in the morning. We get along quite well.

  • maevemealone

    Gosh, you don't sound like the type of guy to play drums at 4am instead having sex at all!

  • JenChungsBaby

    Play the William Tell Overture every time she climaxes.

  • nycraf

    Naw, not William Tell.



    Rent/Get a portable DVD player, pop in a porno, when you hear her, set it to play and turn the volume up.

  • NattyB

    It's Marlon Brando and Maria Schneider from Last Tango in Paris.

  • chuzzlewit

    oh the butter.

  • Blue387

    You beat me to it.

  • hotstepper

    WTF people? its apparent that some of you really need to get laid, so just knock on their door and ask if they swing. hot!

  • Gothampc

    Where is that picture from? I don't recognize it.

  • NannyState

    The only neighborly thing to do is time your own orgasm.

  • Clarice City

    When I lived with roommates we used to take turns creeping out the people upstairs by imitating them- like there was some creepy person downstairs enjoying all the carnal noises. "Yeah! Keep it coming! I'm almost done too! Woo!"

  • Tower18

    Surely there's another picture you can use than one with ACTUAL nudity in it!?!? Many of us are reading at work. Classy.

  • The Red Pen

    NSFW much?

  • wobbleSmith

    the loud fucking from my apartment is the only revenge i have against my hack DJ downstairs neighbor.



    also, seriously, tits right there for everyone to see? some of us use this website at work, dudes. when will our gateway journalists learn some decorum???

  • Wza

    Heard my neighbors way too many times.

    No biggie to me though.

    Life in NY.

  • zodak

    this is relevant to my interests

  • ...

    Thanks, John. Gothamist.com will soon be blocked at work...

  • Kreo

    NSFW PIC ON HOME PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    what the heck is wrong with you guys????????

  • valeriob

    It's ok just scroll down a littl.... GAH American Apparel Porn!

  • chuzzlewit

    i downloaded adblocker like 5 minutes before, and was scrolling happily through my "new" gothamist, when this post went up on the internet into my eyes and slammed into my brain. i can run but i can't hide.

  • JenChungsBaby

    I don't know, but in over 40 years of living in NYC I have honestly never heard neighbors getting it on. They may have heard me but I never heard them.

  • Rocknrope

    Ladies, at least have the courtesy to announce, so that we know when it's over.

  • streber



    Blaming neighbors when people should be blaming crap construction is one of the biggest problems with living in NYC.



    Yeah, you spend/spent a ton of money on you apartment. That doesn't mean it isn't built like crap.



    Folks will spend tons of cash on granite countertops, but when it comes to doing any kind of sound insulation, they'd prefer to try and 'fix' their neighbors... which leads to lots of stupid squabbling.





    You don't hear your neighbors fucking because they're too loud. You hear them because you live in dump... no matter how polished the turd looks.

  • 1stephanie

    I live in a pre-war with concrete walls so thick I can't get cell phone reception if I don't stand by my windows, yet I hear my downstairs neighbor doing it every single night. True, she's a show queen, and I think she learned how to have sex by watching porn, but STILL. Slipshod construction definitely can't be blamed here.

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