the previous traffic circle was DANGEROUS as a pedestrian and biker.

during construction the cones and painted lines for the planning caused chaos and should have had flagmen posted.

but overnight driving while daylight construction stopped was confusing..

now that it is complete the only danger is the oceanparkway service road STOP sign, drivers still run it, some drivers still run the red light on the prospect expressway exit ramp. but thats jerks at the wheel.

the new configuration and new crosswalks and traffic signals makes it very very safe to cross from the end of coney island avenue to get to TD Bank and drivers can no longer just change lanes and drive across the marked flow because of the new traffic islands. the driver quoted by the times who calls it detours that make no sense is a moron. shes confusing ignoring traffic circle patterns and marked turn lanes as some sort of freedom.

in my humble potsmoker opinion i have nothing but applause for the finished product.

I actually called 311 to see how I could file a complaint about that intersection back in the day. Pedestrians were allowed 5 seconds to cross four lanes of traffic, and the cars really didn't care if you were still crossing when the light changed. I'm so pleased with the new car detour.

oops: kensington cobblestones

The redesign is great. Some of the signs are confusing if you don't know the streets, and I'm still a little confused by the changes in the park exits/entrances there, but all in all great. Will look lovely too once the plants grow in on the islands. Most dangerous thing now is crossing at the light since not all the drivers seem to have noticed the new traffic lights. I usually see some guy just plow through if the traffic isn't too heavy.

Do wish the stables folk would keep the horses off the bike paths though. If you keep your bike in your apartment horse crap is an unwelcome guest, and the bridle path is still there. At least when it's below freezing the nugs freeze too so they don't track as much in the winter. Either way, the problem isn't limited to the bike lanes: kensington cobblestones

First, the photo shows the circle before the current update.

Second, to say the neighborhood is "bitterly divided" over it is a bit of a stretch. (Media trying to imply conflict where none exists? Shocking!)

Third, I drive through this circle every day on my way to work. Not a lot has changed in terms of the car routing. It really didn't require any additional thought or mental power to process and adjust to the changes. They really aren't very complicated. The major change would be a divider that splits traffic heading to Ft. Hamilton Pkwy and Ocean Pkwy. off from traffic heading to Prospect Expwy which helps eliminate a lot of the last minute 4-lane crossing that used to happen there.

Seems like a pretty decent upgrade as far as I can tell. It has helped to calm some of the recockulous driving through there I think.

Yes! Horse riders!!! About time we have some new blood (no pun intended, or made for that matter) in this debate!!!!

I wonder if this has anything to do with the minivan that exploded in Windsor Terrace last night.

Newbie transplant and TransAlt mouthpiece Norvell dares talk about Brooklyn's history and what Vaux and Olmstead's intentions were? The fact that the circle was put there in the first place belies his incredible claims.

Simple solution: he claims that "thousands" of cyclists use it. Well, let his lackies at DOT do a traffic count. If as many bikes pass as he claims, they get an extra lane.

If there are only a dozen or two an hour, which is likely more the case, then the lane gets removed.

The full quote is: "they slow cars down and give a bit more priority to the thousands of cyclists and pedestrians in the area. No one should have to play Frogger to access Prospect Park, especially with children in tow."

But you chose to pretend that the quote claimed thousands of cyclists used the area, and argue against it as if that were the case.

So, you either: lack reading comprehension, are duplicitous, or are too lazy to read the whole 4 paragraph post. Whichever it is, there is no reason to take you seriously.

Why don't you try to make an argument against the actual idea: that well placed bike lanes improve transportation options for everyone who doesn't use a car to get around.

The full quote is from a paid mouthpiece of TA, a blatant advocacy group adept at propaganda. Eg, they got you by the nose.

Wiley's produces not a single stat to his claim. Why should I take anything he says as accurate.

You believe it. Fine.

Btw, ever heard of Josef Goebels?

If it was such a weak argument, why couldn't you argue against it as is?

But then, you're not serious.

Or, if you want me to get down to your level of discourse:

Why do you want children to die, thefacts?!?

Are you taking meds to help with your hysteria and grandiosity?

Kudos on being very good at demonstrating how uninformed you are.

How 'bout I walk up and knock on 3-F this evening and see if you have the balls to say that to my face, you 26-year old shithead?

You don't have the balls so STFU.

Wow, I have a stalker and a doppelganger now. I've finally arrived. Thanks Gothamist!

Another anonymous ruff-tuff internet cream puff, new to Brooklyn who doesn't know shit from Shinola.

How about I call you tonight around 2am before I go to bed and you can tell me that to my face, Mr. Tuff Guy.

OK?

That circle is amazingly dangerous as cars whip around it with no regard for pedestrians attempting to cross the street with the lights. Any steps taken by the DOT to improve the threat of death there is hugely helpful and more bike lanes are always welcome.