New York Times Website Paywall Details Revealed

The fact is, the Times doesn't really deserve to live. The quality of their coverage has sunk to the depths. Their smug, bourgeois take on the world seems hopelessly antiquated and useless.

Journalism does need to be paid for- but not necessarily by the Times. They were the ones who sold out the profession to begin with, by throwing over the values of journalism for the values of business. But I believe there are enough people who love and value real information that journalism will survive.

Who wants to pay for editorials written by fat rich white conservative racist supporters of Israel? You can get the same shit for free from the inmates at the local nursing home.

The BBC is free and has a larger scope of content than the New York Times. Just saying...

They get their revenue from TV license fees in Britain which adds up to a princely sum. And yes, the Times would be delirious if they could fang everyone in the US like that.

As long as the price is reasonable and includes access to the full NYT archives, I'd be willing to pony up the cash.

CSF, exactly! for years people here have looked at me funny when i say i don't read the rag that is the NY Times. liberal whaaaa?? this sorry excuse for a paper paid judith miller to type up propaganda for the bush admin on yellowcake in niger. way to go! she and they are somewhat responsible for that sad quagmire as, since it is still for some reason considered the paper of record, people take it seriously. it's a lot more dangerous than, say, the Post, which everyone knows is a joke. when you purport to be for the left, and unbiased, and when people believe you, you can get a country in a lot of trouble.

I depend on Gothamist to read the New Joke Post and the Dead Gray lady for me so I don't have to read them. Why should I pay for Bloomberg's newspapers? Never will I give them any money. I can't wait till they shut down as the New York Sun. I noted the New York Sun's website is back up again.

professional reporters, the kind that make back alley contacts and work in warzones, don't work for free. if major news outlets like the NYT can figure how to make money online perhaps journalism can be rejuvenated. until then articles will keep getting shorter, more superficial in coverage, and repurposed throughout the web.

the golden era of journalism may well be over and we will all suffer for it.

Who even gets news from the New York Times anymore? It's an exciting web-connected new world of news out there with lots of angles that aren't written by a bunch of confused yuppies who pretend to be humanitarians. Unless you need to know where privileged kids eat and what neighborhood their parents are buying them apartments in, why even bother reading Sulzberger's former cash cow - even for free? If you want international news - often from reporters that aren't holding the hands of US Marines to get their stories - try some local reporters and papers linked by sites like this:

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/

+1

Sorry to ask in the image of an overweight, demagogue of a Senator fighting terrorism and terrorists everyday, but what does +1 mean?

It's a contest. At the end of each year, around Thanksgiving, Gothamist tallies up the points and awards prizes, usually a microwave oven or a fresh organic turkey.

HOW WILL I KNOW IF I AM SUPPOSED TO THINK CELEBRITIES ARE FAT NOW?

Whatever. I'll just stick to using gothamist as a metafilter. gothamist can read the times for me and paraprhase what the hell they are saying. I've noticed a lot of post-grad literary majors can't all get jobs at the times so they've been getting jobs everywhere else and writing has actually improved alot all over the web while the times has regressed.

"...the Times wants make them pay without driving them away to blogs that parasitically aggregate the Times and other media outlets for free..." - like um, Gothamist?

Hey we can't all copy and paste the news from some other source. Someone actually has to go gather facts, write stuff down, talk to people, you know, journalism type stuff.

Times has upped their game in terms of quality content. I'll prolly end up paying. Would hate to see it go out of biz.

"like um, Gothamist?" Yes, like um, try reading a bit more carefully, you might detect an obvious whiff of irony in other sentences, like um "according to this article on the Times website (copied and pasted below for you to read for free)..."

Ha, I saw it JDS, was just giving you a hard time about it.

FAIL

Whatever. They gotta try to make money somehow. I expect to see lots of variants on this sort of thing in the coming years as the news industry tries to figure out how to fund itself without newspaper subscriptions et al.

"...the Gray Lady's going to start making bitches pay..."

too funny.