This report shows the truth

http://www.banhdc.org/animalsangels.pdf

The law is just catching up to what we already do - as a matter of fact, 90% of our horses get much more than 5 weeks off per year. For instance, we have two horses - they each work 6 months a year, spending the other six months turned out in PA. Of course that doesn't include all the days off in the city they get - bad weather, days the owner takes off, etc. It's so silly to contend that these horses have a hard life - they have it made, especially when you consider the THOUSANDS of horses across the country that are either neglected or on their way to slaughter.

If only the NYC Children's Services could live up to our standards....

BAN HORSE CARRIAGES FROM ALL FIVE BOROUGHS NOW. It's that simple.

SFOtoJFK - fascist much?

To those complaining that the horses might get 5 weeks of vacation...why don't you pull a carriage around the park or city streets in hot/cold weather for grain, hay, and water...then report back as to how much vacation they deserve. I kow you're being sarcastic, but come on!

efg - you have no idea what you are talking about.

Our horses lead exceedingly reasonable and content lives. They each receive a superior, formulated diet, occupy roomy box stalls, receive vet & farrier care, and are groomed and bathed regularly. This amounts to food, shelter, and medical care - which many CHILDREN in this city do not have.

Beyond these basics, they are loved by their owners/drivers; they receive affection, treats, and human interaction everyday.

Every stable has a sprinkler system in case of fire, and every stable has 24/7 stablemen. We are overseen by 5 city agencies, and not one WEEK goes by (and sometimes, day) that our horses are not checked by the ASPCA or the Dept of Health. (Let’s see Child Protective Services match that record)

The horses receive rotation turnout several times a year on farms in both Upstate NY and PA.

When the time comes, we work hard to retire them to loving, forever homes; some of the owners retire them themselves on privately owned land. I personally have retired 3 horses, one of which is still living the life of Riley after being retired 6 years ago in South Jersey at a bank president’s home.

5-weeks? Is that paid or unpaid? Does it include sick days and personal?

Goddammit!

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/notice/notice-of-intention-to-amend-chapter4-of-title24.pdf

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND MENTAL

HYGIENE WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSAL FROM 10:00 A.M. TO

12:00 NOON ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 2010 IN THE THIRD FLOOR BOARDROOM

(ROOM 330) AT 125 WORTH STREET, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10013.

PERSONS INTERESTED IN PRE-REGISTERING TO SPEAK SHOULD NOTIFY, IN

WRITING, RENA BRYANT, SECRETARY TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH, 125 WORTH

STREET CN-31, NEW YORK, NEW YORK; (212) 788-5010 BY 5:00 P.M. TUESDAY,

FEBRUARY 2, 2010. PLEASE INCLUDE A TELEPHONE NUMBER WHERE, IF NECESSARY,

YOU MAY BE REACHED DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. SPEAKERS WILL BE

LIMITED TO FIVE (5) MINUTES.

PERSONS WHO REQUEST THAT A SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETER OR OTHER FORM

OF REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION FOR A DISABILITY BE PROVIDED AT THE

HEARING ARE ASKED TO NOTIFY RENA BRYANT, SECRETARY TO THE BOARD OF

HEALTH, 125 WORTH STREET CN-31, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10013; (212) 788-5010 BY

JANUARY 20, 2010. REGISTRATION WILL BE ACCEPTED AT THE DOOR UNTIL 12:00

P.M. ON FEBRUARY 3, 2010. HOWEVER, PREFERENCE WILL BE GIVEN TO THOSE WHO

PREREGISTER.

WRITTEN COMMENTS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL ADDRESSED TO THE

ATTENTION OF THE BOARD OF HEALTH MUST BE SUBMITTED TO RENA BRYANT,

SECRETARY TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH, BY MAIL TO 125 WORTH STREET CN-31, NEW

YORK, NEW YORK 10013, BY FAX TO (212) 788-4315, BY E-MAIL TO

RESOLUTIONCOMMENTS@HEALTH.NYC.GOV OR ONLINE (WITHOUT ATTACHMENTS)

Said a tourist "DURRRRRrrrrr I Lik Mud Kipz... LOLZ LOLZ."

The New York Post is such TRASH. There are 5 members, Malone, a carriage horse owner who likes to call women cunts is on the board, Then the owner of kenningston Stable who also abuses their horses in Brooklyn, the 3rd member is a vet hired by the industry, the 4th is an ASPCA rep and the 5th member is a regular resident of NYC. IT'S A BOGUS BOARD created by McMahon's wife who head the Dept of Health. People complained about the conflict of Interest but the city is so corrupt. This is the same conflict of interest board that agree the mayor can introduce a bill to extend his own term.

You are a misinformed, silly liar, Felix.

We were here long before you were, and will be here long after you have gone.

Get used to it :-D

The advisory board is corrupt, 3 0f the 5 advisory board members are part of this industry. These laws aren't enforced at all and do note they drivers send them to slaughter. The industry refuses mandatory retirement. Do note the undercover video of West Livery stable. The conditions are horrible and cruel. 3 am? In amsterdam, where they are no cars, the horses drawn carriages are only available from 11am to 6pm. Why not restrict these horses to the park. Why must I see them at midnight at time square in between tour buses and cabs? This cruelty needs to end. The advisory board was created by McMahon who is marred to the industry's lobbyist. It is all corrupt.

That would be Linda Gibbs. What a corrupt arrangement indeed. The board--which was supposed to be created years ago and never even materialized until recently--is a sham and the new "rules" are window-dressing. Anyone with the cognitive skills of a 12-year-old knows that horses do not belong in city traffic. It sure brings to mind poor Spotty, the young horse who was killed January 2, 2006, in a gruesome spooking accident on Ninth Avenue at 50th Street. The panicked horse broke loose and crashed into a vehicle, injuring passengers and very nearly killing the carriage driver, who was comatose for weeks.

Wow so a horse gets more vacation time than I do, fml

He also has a much larger penis.

You obviously haven't met Kazubes.

horses have been pulling shit for as long as I can remember.. how do you think people got around before the "horseless carriage?" What do you think they had back in the 19th century, Carriages pulled by Negroes? This is what horses do people! I'm going to corner the market with Donkey pulled Carriages in Corona Queens and see does that catch on? Next I'll have Oxen in Park Slope picking up heavy trash on big trash day just to keep the Heath Department on its toes!

Jibreel - I like your line of thinking! We SHOULD have more draft animals working - it would give unwanted animals purposeful lives and add to the quality of urban living. Corona is a perfect place to start (don't know about Park Slope though, too many snotty control freaks LOL)

first, horses don't belong in NYC urban streets. ASPCA supports the ban. ARe you a carriage driver? I asked since you mentioned negroes. There are videos on YouTube of these drivers making homophobic and racists remarks at people. People who abuse animals have no problem abusing people as well.

Who says they don't belong on urban streets, Felix, you? LOL