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Opponents of the Obama administration's plan to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other suspected terrorists in New York City will hold a Dec. 5 rally in front of the federal courthouse to demand that the trials take place elsewhere, according to the Daily News. "This is perhaps the most dangerous decision any President and any attorney general have ever made," said Rep. Pete King (R-Nassau), who publicized the event alongside a new group called 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America.
But many New Yorkers —including about 79 percent of Gothamist readers — think the accused 9/11 plotters should be tried in Manhattan. "They're common thugs and that's all they deserve to be treated as," said retired Army Gen. James Cullen, a former military lawyer. "We're involved in a war of ideas and values. Our values and idea are better. We need to be able to demonstrate that." No date has been set for the trials.
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if i had back hair like that i'd want to blow shit up.
don't give the defense ideas!!! they could get acquitted on the back-hair defense!!!
aint skeered
Ditto this: Ain't Skeered.
I'm sure the "danger" Mr. King is referring to is the danger that New Yorkers will find out how Bush and Cheney coddled their "BFF"'s the Saudis before the attacks, and helped them escape responsibility afterward.
Tom Tomorrow has a great strip about the hysterical right-wing ninnies and their fear:
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/11/23/tomo
Hahaha, nice one.
hahaha! i just wet myself too!
IMO, Rep. King is just another fear mongering a_____e attempting to capitalize on this decision.
Say, Will he have the Teabagers there too?
You're right, fearmongering is only acceptable if it's in favor of pork-filled stimulus bills.
And scaring senior citizens on Social Security and Medicare.
And he's an asshole.
Hubris, thy name is King.
The pro-Obama, pro-trial contingent is a paradox: the timing of the trial and appeals will extend right into the 2012 election cycle, and if it's anything less than a resounding success, it will all but guarantee Obama losing reelection.
Suuuurrrrreeee it will...
So, Any other pipe dreams?
Mohammed already has strong grounds for appeal from when the President tainted the national jury pool by announcing "I think he will be convicted." If there is any shred of possibility he will get off, the Republicans, and possibly other Democrats such as Hillary, will tear Obama a new one, and rightfully so.
If Obama's approval #s continue to drop, I would expect Hillary to resign by the end of next year to prepare for a 2012 run.
That's a joke, right? The trial won't even have started by 2012 and once it does, it will take months to finish. If convicted, figure several more months until sentencing. Then at least a few more years until any appeal was decided.
It is more likely this will be a part of the 2016 election.
ok, you may have a point, but what's your objection to the trial? just that it's happening during obama's term? or that it's happening at all?
My objection is with the trial itself. There should not be one. We've killed thousands of Khalid's homeboys in Afghanistan and Pakistan without trials, why does he get a trial? Conversely, there aren't Predator drones flying sorties over Staten Island to bomb the homes of mafia bosses.
Perpetrators of acts of war are tried in military tribunals. If Obama does not believe 9/11 was an act of war, which allowing KSM a civilian trial would certainly indicate he does not, then he should have ordered the evacuation of all our troops from Afghanistan the day the KSM trial announcement was made.
I am soo...sick and tired of the "Victim's Families:, few of whom live in Manhattan, and many actually out of the city entirely, dictating what goes on here.
It is primarily their fault that the Hole still exists eight years later, due to their years of whinging and complaining.
What a moron Peter King is.
If someone wants to say "I don't want to think about 9/11 so don't want it in the local news" I can sort of understand that.
But this "most dangerous" stuff is just stupid. "This is perhaps the most dangerous decision any President and any attorney general have ever made"
He really thinks that? What a moron.
these people are idiots. by what logic do they claim that a terror trial in a military tribunal or okie skadookie ohio will mean that there will be no terror anywhere anytime anyplace??? using that fear allows terrorists to win by corrupting the hearts and minds of a civilian population, and thats the textbook definition of terrorism.
PS: Here's the best statement EVAR from a Bush Apologist/Accomplice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kpfhGxJbLc
i can't believe that bimbo was our press secretary.
You are all a bunch of stupid motherfucking lemmings; please choke on your tofurkey tomorrow at your parent's house in Ohio.
thanks for the salon link, theres an even better article calling out Bolton.
Tough-guy John Bolton, hiding under his bed
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/25/bolton
Thanks for the Greenwald article -- John Bolton is so lame.
There is nothing to be scared about trying criminals in our federal courts.
That is why we should be worried about President Obama's decision to continue the Bush policy of developing a tripartite justice system wherein those certain to be convicted are tried in federal court, those whose evidentiary findings don't quite satisfy the Federal Rules of Evidence are tried in military tribunals, and those who just aren't lucky at all will be "indefinitely detained."
Change a neoconservative can believe in.
"This is perhaps the most dangerous decision any President and any attorney general have ever made," Pete King, you are an idiot and you know nothing about history. More dangerous than sending thousands to die in a war we should have never gotten into? longacre, you are right there with him. Fear mongering does not work. The repubs (and FOX News)need to take it out of their playbooks.
It's not dangerous to telegraph to our "enemies abroad" that we are so weak and incapable of securing a criminal trial in NYC that terrorists should come back and try their luck? Peter King = Republican panty-wetting pussy.
Bring the trial here! There's money to be made! T-shirts to sell, hotels to fill, world's press to feed...
Pet King is my bitch.
You could do better.
These animals should not be able to step foot in this city... and yes there are dangers of them having a trial in NY. There's a potential of any kind of attack/ act of terror in the city just to stir shit up. There are still terror cells and hundreds of terrorists living in the US... not saying it would be another 9/11, just smaller attacks.
There is always a potential of any kind for another attack or act of terror in ANY FUCKING CITY.
Go live in your state of fear somewhere else....Wyoming perhaps?
Douchebag.
Only a MORON wouldn't think having these trials here INCREASES the chance of ANOTHER ATTACK ON NYC, D_BAG!
Maybe thats what you want, along with giving them a forum to spew their jihadi garbage that leftists suck on like milk from a dead pig.