A STRICTLY POLITICAL MOVE, BUT A VERY RISKY ONE.

Events wherein people using powerful weapons, funded with hundreds of millions of dollars, launch attacks against a country, its people, its embassies and other outposts, are not just “criminal acts,” they are Wars.

http://pacificgatepost.com/2009/11/show-trial-goes-to-new-york.html

pimping your blog (everywhere)?

Assemblyman Dov Hikind is considering buying property in an Arab neighborhood of Jerusalem.

It doesn't really matter if the trial is held here or not, because it'll most likely be pure theater. I suppose we should hope that the details of his patsyism will come out in the wash but I won't hold my breath.

I don't understand the logic of having a tribunal vs. a trial. These people were not part of any military force, nor were they acts of war. These were crimes committed on american soil... seems the ONLY logical option is a trial in a US court. Even if they were captured abroad... it's just been a delayed extradition. Bring 'em to NYC and show them that nobody fears them, but they obviously fear death. Otherwise they would've committed suicide rather than allow themselves to become and remain captured.

whoops, the plan is already announced

Obama: Alleged 9/11 leader will be executed

In NBC interview, he then backs off by saying he doesn't mean to prejudge

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34015727/ns/us_news-security/

Does he have a plan for when he loses reelection in 2012 because of this and a dozen other debacles?

Sen. Lindsay Graham (who voted to confirm Holder) explains today exactly (a) why Holder is in over his head and (b) why these trials are a huge mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG7lm8Sfbo4

and suddenly anyone should listen to lindsey graham because (really, of all the fucking blowhards in senate, this one's a particularly poor choice if you want to cite him as some form of voice of reason and/or expertise)?

now, i'm going to pull a little trick out of ye olde gop tea bag and tell you that ksm wanted to go to a tribunal, so if you want him to go to a tribunal, then you're on the side of the terrorists. i've wanted to do that all day. fucking asshat hypocrites.

"and suddenly anyone should listen to lindsey graham because (really, of all the fucking blowhards in senate, this one's a particularly poor choice if you want to cite him as some form of voice of reason and/or expertise)?"

Hey, he's one of your reach around guys that you dems love just like mccain (so you can set them up as "moderate repubs" and then beat them) so STFU.

"...ksm wanted to go to a tribunal, so if you want him to go to a tribunal, then you're on the side of the terrorists. i've wanted to do that all day. fucking asshat hypocrites."

Foul-mouthed leftard - who cares what KSM wants, its what's good for America, and Holder is giving the terrorists their "day in court" where they can spout all of their Obama-agrees–with AmeriKKKA s*cks crap.

Then you and the rest of your hate-america crowd can chime in during the trial, "see, we should have mirandized, him, we shouldn't have waterboarded him, Bushco's illegal war, joos, crusades, misunderstod islam, WAH WAH WAH WAH... set him free, !!!"

100,000 Americans have signed the Letter To President Obama sent by 9/11 Families for a Safe & Strong America and theBravest.com:

NO TRIAL IN NYC.

http://www.keepamericasafe.com/petition_signup/

You mean .033% of the population? Wow.

"You mean .033% of the population? Wow."

Quite larger than the population sample in the marist poll

602 polled /8.36 million NYC population = 0.000072

You can go back to sucking a hookah with your jihadi friends and their useful idiot accomplices.

Regardless of whether it's a military tribunal or civilian court, let's resolve that when they are judged guilty, they are executed publicly - roll those gurneys right into ground zero!

This is a perfect example of how the most bloodthirsty fantasies on both sides are pretty much the same thing. A public execution would make a most excellent martyrdom.

i respect your perspective H.B and i don't mean to come off as bloodthursty; all of what i am saying is based on an assumption that it is a fait accompli that there is going to be the death penalty here regardless of how they proceed.

So if that is the case, i submit that the whole 'martyrdom' appeal is a moot point: countless studies have shown that the death penalty doesn't deter murder or violent crime, which is why (believe it or not) i'm against it.

But these same studies continuously show that the only benefit for death as punishment is to give the surviving families some opportunity for retribution and closure. I am sure that many surviving family members would want a prime seat wherever KSM and his miscreants are terminated.

But in a larger sense, because of the nature of the attacks, we are all a 'family member' of the victims, and I for one would think that there would be a catharsis and closure amongst many if we rolled these animals out to ground zero, don't give them any last words, end their worthless lives and bury them with snakes or whatever else is anethema to them.

And i don't think that would help al queda's recruiting. The last thing i care about is pissing these guys off anyway...Ask anyone who has ever seen even a "sanitized" death sentence carried out. It isn't a pretty sight.

You're blind if you think any kind of martyrdom wouldn't help recruitment - and the more public the spectacle the more effective it would be for the Islamists. That's why KSM wants it and I don't think we should give it to him. Life imprisonment with no platform for spewing his hate would be a much more offensive punishment. Oh, and I'm pro-death penalty in certain (rare) circumstances, believe it or not.

As for revenge and closure: I think the victims community is divided on that one; those whom I know are more interested in coming to terms through their own actions and not obsessed with what happens to these fanatics.

Can't we get a new photo of that Khalid Sheik Mohammed guy, or do we have to continue flaunting how we're too uncivilized to treat our prisoners well?

That photo was taken moments after he was handcuffed in Pakistan, not after we waterboarded him.

OK, then how about a photo where the collar isn't open so wide? He must be the hairiest guy on earth.