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The MTA officers do not like gymnastics. Consider that your warning. One man, Jesse Archer, was recently walking through a nearly empty Grand Central at 1:30 a.m., on his way home from a birthday party at the Grace Hotel, when he decided to do a cartwheel. He reports back:
"The police called me over, and gave me a ticket for 'disorderly conduct.' It was so unbelievable, and I let them know it. But when they were done issuing me the citation, I start walking toward my friend Stace who was waiting nearby. Facing him, not the cops, I utter an expletive about the cops, and next thing I know I'm being tackled by several policemen from behind.He goes on to say that he eventually blacked out from the beating, and woke up in his underwear in a jail cell. By 3:30 a.m. he was let go, with two summonses and a piece of paper saying he needed hospital treatment but refused. He suffered cuts on his face, bruising on both sides of his head, ears, and wrist. Allegedly he's being helped out by Christine Quinn's office, and he tells us he is attempting to get surveillance footage. We've contacted Quinn's office and the MTA for their comment on the incident.The cops wrench my wrist back, handcuff me, and one of them has my head and is pounding it into the cold hard cement. I was not resisting, I was not fighting. I didn't even see them coming. They were simply going to teach this faggot a lesson! While my brains are being dashed, all I can think (besides, this shouldn't be happening!) was that this kind of injury is exactly how Natasha Richardson died."
UPDATE: The MTA's press secretary, Jeremy Soffin, tells us: "Mr. Archer was issued two summonses for disorderly conduct early on the morning of October 3, after he was found lying on the floor of Grand Central Terminal by MTA Police. Our records and video footage show that he was held in detention for approximately 30 minutes, during which time he was fully clothed and not mistreated. We continue to investigate his claims."
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Maybe that's a lesson to not swear at the cops until you're well out of ear shot.
shut the fuck up, we shouldn't have to live in a police state, asshole.
He didn't even sweat at them. He swore to his friend after walking away from them.
what no one had a cell phone camera to doc. this?
I dont get it Does he think this is because he's gay?
That's a tough call. If they just beat down any guy who does cartwheels in public, is it because they're doing cartwheels or because they're gay?
Or is that a stereotype?
I'm tired of assholes with badges.
I'm tired of assholes with keyboards.
owait.
"I utter an expletive about the cops"
What the fuck do you expect? I mean how long have you actually lived in NYC?
Im not a police officer in any way/shape/form, nor do I support ass kickings by anyone, but you admit to talking shit and then wonder why you got your ass kicked.
"you admit to talking shit and then wonder why you got your ass kicked."
He doesn't seem to wondering why. Just has this strange idea that it shouldn't have happened.
Great, another drama queen.
Would it happen to be this guy? http://www.jesseonthebrink.com/
Yes, which is why there's a link to that site in the original post.
fucking amateur hour over here.
uttering an expletive about a cop is much different than towards a cop. if he cursed at the cop than he is provoking and engaging an officer of the law. if he is saying the curse out-loud to his friend than he is not engaging the cop even if the cop can hear it. guaranteed these were cops rookies.
saying the curse can be interpreted many different legal ways, obscene conduct, disrupting the peace, etc., but this will net this guy a very lucrative settlement along with a lifetime of headaches. but as you've already thought to yourself, what kinda a jackass curses about a cop within earshot? a doofy cartwheeling midwesterner, that's who.
If true the cops need to be fired and charged with assault.
It's not illegal to curse about cops, if you are not facing or even addressing the cop. The police were in the wrong and abusing their authority. The fact that so many people are saying "he should know better around cops" just shows how many people have been whipped into obedience by the police, against their lawful rights.
dude, it's a little thing called the patriot act. cops can do whatever the fuck they want now. there are no miranda rights, there is no due process. unfortunately we are fully entrenched in a police state. there is really no fighting it, because this is all tied to terrorism and sacrificing liberties for the sake of not having another 9/11.
i'd much rather swallow my pride than get electrocuted or beat senseless. thinking that you're above the law with hippy liberal rhetoric is just ignorant. rights don't exist anymore.
I just want to point out that Miranda Rights never existed ever. The Miranda Warnings were simply a reminder of your already constitutionally guaranteed rights..
man, i was laughing until the part about the beatdown and waking up in a jail cell. really??! is this how the mta if fighting terrorism? arresting cart-wheelers??
If I see anyone doing a cartwheel in the middle of the sidewalk, bridge, street, or anywhere but the fucking gym or olympics, im calling the cops....prepare for an ass kicking.
Including inside your own home?
Freedom of expression is no longer tolerated in New York. This town lost it's soul in the 90's when people starting pouring in from the rest of the country. This place got sanitized. It got too clean. People wanted to have exciting lives in all these great neighborhoods, but then they suddenly wanted it peaceful and quiet once they got married and started having kids. So now, you aren't allowed to do anything in this city except spend your money.
Anyone doing cartwheels is an attention whore or excuasably a child.
About being able to curse at the cops without being punished - what world do you live in? Do you think if you mumble something about your boss as you leave the office after he/she yells at you for being a tool you wont be called on the carpet? Freedom of speech should be used with common sense.
I'm pretty sure beat downs by the cops are fine old NYC tradition. Not that I disagree about the Suburbification of the City, but people have been getting a beating for expressing themselves for a long time. I imagine it started around the time white people showed up.
Indian: "I wish these f-ing Dutch would go home"
Dutch Constable: BEAT DOWN!
You are an idiot! Nuff said.
Would your boss beat you?
Are the cops your boss or are we theirs?
A scumbag with a badge is still a scumbag
I agree that a scum bag is a scumbag - but looking at the history of the good ol NYPD and their minions one cannot take a chance at getting a beat down a plunger in the butt, shot at, shoved off a bike - on and on it goes.... admittedly there was a spark already set by him then he fully enflames them - once again I do not condone his beat down but come on - NYPD with their lower entry standards one cannot expect understanding or CPR as is on their squad cars
"...one cannot expect understanding or CPR as is on their squad cars"
Sounds to me like the guy almost needed CPR. The medical kind.
Seriously. "A scumbag with a badge is still a scumbag." I agree wholeheartedly. If this story is true I hope the guy gets a huge settlement AND that the asshole cops involved are fired.
"Sounds to me like the guy almost needed CPR. The medical kind."
lol
"NYPD with their lower entry standards"
Well for what it's worth these were apparently MTA cops. Higher pay, and more selective (not that the requirements are any less, but half the NYPD has has taken the MTAPD test so like the LI counties they don't take just anyone who meets the minimum requirements).
A police officer abusing his authority is pretty generally viewed as inappropriate. Likewise, a civilian not assigning a police officer due respect should probably also be viewed as inappropriate.
Surely it would have been smarter, upon getting fined for doing a cartwheel, to control ones tongue and address the issue in a more meaningful and constructive way. Perhaps before by fighting the fine in court.
It sounds like we're not getting the whole cartwheel story. Most cops would give you a warning before giving you a disorderly. I'm sure the cartwheeler was drunk or mouthing off or doing something in conjunction to his cartwheel.
"the cops called me over" You should have taken off. Running. Not cartwheeling. I'm sure thats what the cops expected.
So now our taxes or MTA fares will go up again because those thugs masquerading as pigs will be sued in court and lose and the guy will win a nice big settlement (rightly deserved if these pigs really did this to him). It's time to take back New York. Get a Mayor in the office who actually cares about the people and shows the higher ups in the NYPD and the MTA/PD the freaking door. There are some good NYPD officers out there, and the two of them can be seen every now and then actually helping someone.
Perhaps the cartwheeler was drunk and obnoxious. Who attempts cartwheels in public? A drunk would.
He was coming from a party in a hotel at 1:30 am., then he 'blacks out' and wakes up in a jail cell? Sounds suspicious. Excess liquor causes blackouts. On 'Cops', you see all those trashy people sobering up in a holding cell, and then saying, "What'd I do wrong, officer"?
But the MTA cops are notoriously jerky, no comparison to NYPD. I was attacked by NYPD in Grand Central once at 6 pm during rush hour, but we were preparing for a riot.
I didn't whine like this guy.
Wasn't he talking to a friend? Where is the friend's witness testimony?
Also it's Grand Central Station. There are cameras all over the place. Chances are there is video footage to either condemn or exonerate the officers.
Too many unknowns to craft an informed opinion on this. Not that it has stopped people from making snap judgments on the story either way.
Agreed. It is simply amazing that just about every commenter here immediately falls for the perp's account. I'm not saying it isn't correct, but if it is printed, so many people believe it. Does no one bother to analyze any longer?
That is more scary than the obsessive fears voiced here of a police state.
The next time they are being robbed, they should call a cartwheeler for assistance.
Given it's Grand Central, there will be video, from multiple angles. If there isn't, you can surely bet the MTA "lost it" on purpose.
I find this strange, because all that the MTA police in Penn station ever do is talk to hot girls, talk to each other, or ride around in their little go-karts. I've seen people throw up on the floor right in front of them and they'll just tell the person they can't sleep there.
Shit. I just taught my friend's daughter how to do cartwheels. What have I DONE?
who does Cartwheels in penn station what about all the other riders that don't want to deal with this guys non-sense.. good job MTA police
anti-basicreadingcomprehension- Nobody does cartwheels in Penn Station.
you need to read the story
It's beat "up", not beat "down". And you give someone a "beating", not a "beatdown". Drives me f***ing nuts.
Moral of the story: only do cartwheels when nobody's looking -like the rest of us.
effin cops!
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Eww. That means his hands touched the FLOOR!
These hipsters. they ruined a good city.
NYC the home of bully bruts!
fuck da poh-lease