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Sir'mone McCaulla, with daughter.
On Sunday afternoon, Gutierrez and McCaullara apparently bumped into each other outside the James Farly Post Office on busy Eighth Avenue near 33rd Street. McCaulla wrote, "I turned around cause we bumped into each other we started talking like watch where you goin and we could fight." The rambling note maintains that McCaulla did not intend to kill him, just "stop the threat." Surveillance video shows Gutierrez ripping off his coat and assuming a fighting posture, and then McCaulla lunging at four times with a knife, killing him.
Gutierrez's sister tells the Post there is "no excuse for what [McCaulla] did. He could have just fought him like a man. Why would you take a knife and stab somebody in the chest three times? And he has a daughter, which makes it even more sad." Indeed, McCaulla was on his way to see his daughter (the note ends with "Sweetie I Love You Live For Daddy Cause I Can See Now Your Stronger Than you ever I ever would be"). Still, Gutierrez's mother told the Times, “I send my condolences to his family — I wouldn’t wish the way I feel today on any mother in this world."
The 28-year-old, who had served in the Army in Kuwait, had recently passed the FDNY exam and was on the waiting list for a job. (He was fired from FedEx two years ago for being in possession of stolen property.) But in his suicide note, he wrote, "If its hard for me to find work out of the army its gonna be 10 times harder if I come out as a felon." An uncle said, "We are suffering now. I just hope that people learn how to get along better in this world.”
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I had to read this about 5 times to figure out what the hell was going on due to how poorly written (and edited) it is.
The guy was a piece of shit. It sure makes the taxpayers happy that this crapolla dude did himself in.
But he still served his country. What have you done?
Sorry, I don't buy this "served his country" nonsense anymore. Just because someone was in the military doesn't mean he automatically contributed to society. He may have had no other prospects in life. Thanks to the totally unnecessary war in Iraq stretching our forces too thin, the Army lowered its recruitment standards, even allowing people with criminal records to enlist. Would you excuse the soldiers at Abu Ghraib by saying they served their country?
@the Edge
What do you know. I paid my taxes last year. Those dollars served the country to pay for a war that is going nowhere except getting more unfortunates on both sides killed.
And what exactly have you done in the last few years for your country?
Amazing! I got Spiritof76 and Snoopy to agree on something. Will wonders never cease?
Tim McVeigh served his country too. Was he a good guy?
from the article:
1. "no excuse for what [McCaulla] did. He could have just fought him like a man."
2. "Surveillance video shows Gutierrez ripping off his coat and assuming a fighting posture"
It's statements like this that make me think that this whole situation could have been avoided if not for Gutierrez's actions and mentality. Maybe Gutierrez should "have just WALKED AWAY like a man."
They both should have. However, I don't think multiple stabbings is the standard reaction to seeing someone raise their fists.
True, but who knows what Gutierrez would've done after the fight started. (Even though he was unarmed) Both of them escalated shit, but hey, they were just trying to keep it real.
What a waste.
I agree, but fear, if he really felt it, can make you react in ways you might not expect possible. Escalation is a great form of defense. He was trained by a Army that preaches overwheleming force as a tactical and strategic principle.
I agree with you 100%.
McCaulla's actions are totally wrong, but we cannot ignore that Gutierrez's actions are also wrong. If I bumped into someone, I would say "excuse me" and keep on walking. What was the reason for a fight to even start??? "Fight like a man"???? over what???? A simple shoulder bump?
There is too much damn aggression in this world. Just say "excuse me" and move along. People make me sick.
I think they were both dickheads.
Thank you for your comment and thank you for being just a bit more openminded by seeing it could have been avoided on both ends...not speaking on anyone else's behalf just my own. I knew Sir'mone personally and he has always been one to avoid confrontation and squash drama. Everything in the media has been giving the public a false sense of who he was as a man, soldier, father and son. The negative comments does nothing to heal either family instead these comment only serve to fuel more pain, anger, disappointment and even bitterness on all sides. The 2 men have children that will one day look to old accounts of their fathers deaths...these should not be the type of comments they have to deal with in their quest to understand why they had to grow up fatherless. Think before you post. Please.
The most disturbing thing about this story is that the FDNY is even considering hiring people with a criminal record!
They might not have done a background check.
...also that's not really the most disturbing thing about this story.
background checks/drug test/psychological tests, etc. are not conducted till after the persons name is called from the list.
Right. Wouldn't make much sense to spend the money and time checking backgrounds before people take the test.
The test is the first major step in weeding out applicants. Just about anyone can take it. But just as with the NYPD the majority of people who pass it and are "on the list" won't make it all the way to being hired.
I'd rather die of smoke inhalation and get burnt to a frazzle than have a firefighter with a criminal record save me.
Both had the ghetto mentality. Both need mental health meds. Two crazy guys off the streets. I'm content.
Well, then you're just a loser. Have a little compassion.
Compassion for two people who created violence on an otherwise peaceful street?
Take it to Antigua. We don't do things that way here.
I think saying you're glad he's dead under a picture of the guy with his daughter is shitty but hey, I'm funny that way.
I'm with you. No matter how wrong either of these men were, they're both dead now, and it doesn't make us any better than either of them to applaud their deaths as "two crazy guys off the street". Especially when those crazy guys had families who didn't view them that way at all.
Two macho hot heads got into a fight. Pretty shocking.
yeh seriously. i bump into people all the time and i rarely get stabbed
Yeah, that whole "fight like a man" way of thinking is troubling. It's that type of ghetto mentality that often leads to death. Normal people can take these types of things in stride, but impulsive ghetto types will kill and/or die over it. It's almost as if there's a complete inability to reason and their lives are ruled by impulse, which is pretty disturbing.
the guy wanted to "throw down" and got got.
you throw the dice, you take your chances.
don't want to get bumped? move to less crowded city.
and, I think the guy did fight like a man, it was the other guy's machismo that did him in.
can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
don't write checks your body can't cash.
the sister's comment is unfortunate, but understandable. OF COURSE one/both should have chosen to walk away, but as long as they were fixing to knucklechuck (agreed, BAD DECISION) it should have been on equal footing. the other guy doesn't even get off a stroke and he's stabbed mult. times?? i think the sister's thinking is that if a fight was a forgone conclusion, it should have been fists to fists and left at that.
Another sad example of how this country fails its veterans who come home from war traumatized and suffering from PTSD and other mental illnesses. Many of them are walking time bombs who self-destruct but not before destroying a few other people along the way.
http://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Wait, does that apply?
Not that there's any way to really tell, but getting into fights with military dudes who have been combat deployed is usually bad news.
I heard one guy describe it on NPR once. He said something to the effect of "when regular people fight, they throw punches. I look to open up an artery."
they were both idiots and now they're both dead. a happy ending.
Never bring soft tissue to a knife fight.
This story is indeed very sad and disturbing but its nothing like the media makes it out to be. Please remember that the media uses false information to fill in empty gaps of a story. We have 2 unneccessary deaths of 2 young men that leave to mourn a lot of friends and family, especially the both of them have small children. Some of you people need to be a little more sensitive.
This is a tragic story.
Perhaps this is a story about the kind of health care that Veterans receive? Just a thought.
Sad story, but they were both being selfish.
Should've kept it moving, it was just a bump. Look forward to getting home to your child instead.
Both of them acted like assholes.
Probably not terrible people, just a shame.
sad story
That's what you get when you create an "Army of One"; ONE big f*cking homicidal psychopathic murderer!
Get ready for the time soon when we get THOUSANDS of these clinically unstable "war" veterans roaming our streets and belly-stabbing people left & right!
thats true, why didnt gothamist allow my post
that included the nytimes article link for the hundreds of iraq/afgan verterans that have commited murders, great article with details and pictures. or the washington post article showing the alarmingly high rates of suicide, both in the war zone and back home.
what do you guys think is going to happen when thousands of these guys with loose screws return to our streets without a job, home or a mental health safety net.
To Potsmoker....can you send me those articles to my email kiakares@gmail.com
Thank you
Sounds like Gutierrez pulled his meat-for-brains ghetto tough guy shit on the wrong dude. Oh well. One less mad-doggin', knuckle-draggin' "gangsta" loser to deal with. As for McCaullara, this is sad. He sounds like a well-raised kid who truly wanted a decent life but badly needed a break (and maybe some therapy.)
Wait... you feel bad for the stabber, but not the stabbee?
Yeah.
I like how everyone is talking about "the ghetto mentality" as though white people don't get in fights
i didnt see anyone commenting about race here. So you are saying that white people cant have a "ghetto mentality"? I'm sure there are plenty of white people who would do the same thing as both men here. This has nothing to do with race...just 2 idiots.
When keeping it real goes wrong.