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Think your job sucks? The Times gives you the lowdown on Barack Obama's day: first a speech to the UN Climate Change Conference, with two impossible goals: establishing some kind of US credibility on the issue, and getting India and China to sign on. From there he meets with Mr. Sweetcakes himself, Benjamin Netanyahu, then with Mr. Energy and Action, Mahmoud Abbas, then with both of them at the same time.
Once he's got climate change and peace in our time in the can, he'll lunch with African heads of state — hopefully including our sharp-dressed desert despot — and then head for a summit meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao. Then it's to the Global Initiative sessions to talk about economic development in the Third World. Then a climate-change dinner in the evening.
We've got some text from WCBS 2 from his climate-change speech this morning. It's certainly not what previous American presidents have been saying: "We understand the gravity of the climate threat. We are determined to act," Obama said. "And we will meet our responsibility to future generations."
Really, sometimes it makes you wonder why anyone would want that job. That said, God bless him for at least trying. His agenda makes James Joyce's refrigerator look tame.
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I'm so glad he's in charge, and not the retarded we had for 8 years.
But the guy is guilty in the eyes of many in this country, for wanting to fix the shithole NeoCons left us in, IN ALL aspects of evil: pollution, Corporate FRAUD, and war...
What a world! Where bellicose cynics think they have the upper moral ground just because the use religion as something to fall back on... hypocrisy?
Corporate fraud? How much bailout $$$ did Obama hand over to failed corporations? How many billions did he funnel to the crooks and voter fraudsters at ACORN under the guise of "stimulus"? Obama is the product of the Chicago political machine, the most corrupt and notorious in the country.
Anyway, anybody who paid attention in their 8th grade geology class knows that the earth's climate has ALWAYS been changing. It's natural. I do actually admire the genius of using a perfectly natural phenomenon to push the socialist agenda. It's failed so badly wherever it's tried, they have to keep finding new ways to market it.
So you say that by saving the economic machine country (wallstreet) of the collapse caused by FRAUD the new president did wrong?
MMM.
You have your won way of looking trough the glass, that seems to be the opposite of the facts.
This CURRENT mess we are in was caused by corporate greed and deregulation, government jumped to save us form a HUGE mayhem, and now that was wrong?! not the mayhem by reckless bankers?! no they never are to blame, EVER!
The money that was handed over to the banks had conditions (due to that little thing you ignore: responsibility after the crash), the conditions were: REGULATIONS. Some banks HAVE PAYED the money back, just because they don't want that regulation...and you still keep thinking the bad guys here are in government?
I say let them go bankrupt, we have laws for exactly that. The better managed companies can then thrive. It's survival of the fittest in a free market. But why miss an opportunity to let the federal government take over the private sector one piece t a time?
No, it was actually caused by the Federal Reserve. Isn't business greedy by nature? Aren't you greedy by nature when you want a higher salary?
And in this fantasy age of deregulation that liberals paint, why was the rule book 10,000 pages big and why was the SEC bigger than ever? Those aren't signs of deregulation. Are they?
If Im not mistaken, deregulation is a conservative goal. If you change "liberal" to "conservative" your 2nd comment makes sense...Reagan was the king of deregulation, wasnt he? And conservatives want less regulation because its closer to a free market...
I was being incredibly sarcastic. I, as a Libertarian, would like to do away with 99% of the bureaucrats, which would do away with 99% of the federal mandates and laws.
Would you like to remove the federal ban on marijuana? Well if you're consistent and truly believe in liberty you also need to be for doing away with the pathetic securities regulations and disincentive taxes on capital gains.
But you only like being anti-government when it's convenient to your cause.
So you say that by saving the economic machine country (wallstreet) of the collapse caused by FRAUD the new president did wrong?
MMM.
You have your won way of looking trough the glass, that seems to be the opposite of the facts,and yes, as you say: very "8th grade geology" type of understanding.
This CURRENT mess we are in was caused by corporate greed and deregulation, government jumped to save us form a HUGE mayhem, and now that was wrong?! not the mayhem by reckless bankers?! no they never are to blame, EVER!
The money that was handed over to the banks had conditions (due to that little thing you ignore: responsibility of the suits after the crash), the conditions were: REGULATIONS. Some banks HAVE PAYED the money back, just because they don't want that regulation...and you still keep thinking the bad guys here are in government?
" It's not the nice men in the suits doing the stealing (Goldman Sachs, wallstreet cronies,Blackwater, and Haillburton combined) but the very people, often minorities or illegal immigrants, with no political or financial power who nonetheless somehow dominate the government and get everything for themselves. The poorer and weaker one is, the more one is demonized in right-wing mythology as all-powerful receipients of ill-gotten gains; conversely, the stronger and more powerful one is, the more one is depicted as an oppressed and put-upon victim (that same dynamic applies to foreign affairs as well).
It's such an obvious falsehood -- so counter-intuitive and irrational -- yet it resonates due to powerful cultural manipulations. Most of all, what's so pernicious about all of this is that the same interests who are stealing, pillaging and wallowing in corruption are scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in order to ensure that the victims of their behavior are furious with everyone except for them."
Ides of March,
I'm glad you paid attention in your 8th grade geology class.
Now if only you had enrolled in a college level climatology class, you might understand this issue better.
Well if they teach you that changing your lightbulb will fine tune geological activities to Al Gore's specifications, then I think the 8th grade class is on far more solid ground. But then again, I can only argue with brainwashed Global Warming cult members for so long.
Ides,
No, you shouldn't argue with brainwashed global warming cult members. You should publish a paper in a peer reviewed scientific journal (based on your solid 8th grade education). If you have a cogent argument against climate change, Exxon has a $650,000/year job for you.
My degree is in Env. Science, Im no expert climatologist but Ive done more research on global warming than most people. While Im not completely 100% sold on it, theres a stronger case for than against the existence of global warming and our impact on it. Plus there are other factors like global dimming, positive feedback loops, etc...there's just too much information to process and KNOW for sure whats happening up there, but IMO the fact that people wouldnt want to at least hedge their bets is surprising. We dont need to go balls out and sink our economy into the problem, but some steps in the right direction would be welcome. Plus, efficiency should be in everyone's most basic interest anyway in that resources have not become suddenly infinite.
As for the lightbulb comment, that's a big problem with many people's thinking...look up the "tragedy of the commons" if youre unaware of the concept. McCain making fun of Obama's comments to inflate your tires for better gas mileage last summer pissed me off more than anything else he said, I'd been learning about those simple techniques for reducing emissions and the impact they would have if they became widespread practice for several years. Do the little things right, and it adds up.
Most people don't want to hear about the little things. They want a big, magical, easy answer to all their questions. It's why people go to church on Sundays, and why they kneel at the church of the GOP or the church of Obama the rest of the week. At this point our political parties have significantly less logic in them than our religions, how sad is that?
Right, Ides,we should have just let it all go down the shitter. So instead of a recession we could have had a real honest-to-god Depression. Then you could blame him for doing nothing. Was Obama not just here in town a few days ago telling us regulation is next on the agenda?
Boo-fuckin-hoo.
Empty suit, empty agenda. Perfectly suited to mix with that rabble of ineffective life suckers that is the UN.
Verbal, right. And what did you do today?
Considering it's only 1:30 I still have about 2 hours of work that will go to taxes to pay for all these 'stimulus' programs, then I can take what's remaining and buy a slice of pizza.
obama is a great man, but he lost me on letterman. how lame to talk shop. i wanted to see some humor and jokes and just plain old "barry."
disappointed in his rhetoric on Daves.
yeah, I want a president that does comedy like Bush did!
Shallow people are fun!
China and India are ready for some sort of compromise; Bibi and the leader of half the Palestinian people are ready for a statement of intent; African leaders just need another hundred million dollars to STFU; and CNN won the microphone boom lottery. How hard was that?
Obama is going on all these shows because he's narcissist and in love with the sound of his own voice. He can waffle on and yuck it up with all the tv hosts he wants, a lot of Americans recognize his marxist policies for what they are.
Yes, a narcissist. Totally selfish of him to bust his ass trying to fix all the broken shit left to us by 8 years with everyone's favorite former frat boy.
What broken shit? Oh you mean the broken shit that all the Democrats and Senator Obama voted for, too?
The UN is nothing but group therapy for a bunch of third-world losers. A place they can blame all their own failures on that tiny little sliver of land called Israel.
"bunch of third-world losers.": if they were to bring a nuke each then it will be a real Party.
Sure, why not pretend we're the only people on the planet? USA! USA! /sarcasm
Ed, why do you defend the UN so much? How has it benefited Americans? Hasn't the UN and NATO actually cost tangible American lives as well as billions of dollars?
it is called diplomacy, not everything has to go the pockets of a few to be worthwhile. Multilateralism is a concept that not many republicans even are aware exist, because it doesn't benefit them. Of course GOP puppets make demons out everything that has social development interest, like they are so so much part of the club oligarchy: the freedom they see is only in desiring to belong to the corrupt suit club.
You need the UN to have diplomacy? What did we do before the UN? And entangling ourselves in weird alliances and fighting---that's diplomacy? Okay!
Sort of agree, but screw them all...Israel included.
Not our fucking problem.
you certainly have a lot of criticism out there for uhh...everything. any suggestions or are you just determined to be argumentative?
it seems like you'd rather sit back and watch everything denigrate rather than try. i'd say that's the mark of a true coward.
put a gun on those empty criticism and distrust for government and you have a party!
Ooo, same position he took in the campaign: promise everything. Water, food, wealth, peace, love, happiness for all of humankind... brougth to you by OBAMA.
Saving us from hell thanks to your everyday corporate jackass: DONE.
One for him, zero for ya!
Through socialism. Thanks.
socialism?!
WTF are you talking about?
FOX Shit in a can?
Nobody is advocating for the state monopoly. What are corporations to fear: competition? regulation?
gop puppet!
Ooo. Corporations are scary. No more tax breaks for them. Let's tax them instead and give the money to public bureaucrats. Because they're saints and have never stolen, defrauded, grafted, or lied like those evil white men in suits who create goods efficiently!
I normally don't jump in on these idiotic arguments but can't you two see - you're BOTH wrong? Socialism is not necessarily evil. Corporations are not necessarily evil. However both can do evil if used incorrectly. Corporations aren't automatically efficient anymore than your digestive system is automatically efficient - market forces do work, but often in ways we do not foresee, and which cannot be predicted by simple rhetoric. Socialism can take you to the awful place the UK is at right now, where the masses keep voting themselves more bread and circuses at the expensive of a shrinking tax base. Making arguments that Obama is an evil grandma killing socialist and corporations are evil greedy money suckers allows those bad things you're whining about to happen! Try coming up with an answer instead of rhetoric that was old years ago.
The answer is not change.
Nobody is advocating for the destruction of the corporations, NO BODY!
That is the self proclaimed truth, the troy horse of the GOP.
INSTEAD we actually do have a FAILED system of corporate corruption that they are very happy to keep intact!
That is the problem, demonizing social causes in favor of keeping the status quo so the oligarchy can keep screwing us all like it has always happened: those are the values to protect!
It's actually worse than that.....we're stuck with the mutant offspring: corporate socialism.
Bailouts , subsidies , 'free speech' and takeovers for all! Corporations are people too!
And with public agencies, the inefficient just get more money.
I think this is an inarguable statement.
btw, Obama, the (evil secret Kenyan terrorist Muslim), wants to use his ACORNS to unplug your grandma.