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A Long Island math teacher, who was arrested in July for having sex with a 15-year-old girl in an elementary school parking lot, is being charged with yet another sex crime. Daniel Rothbard, 28, was out on bail for the first alleged statutory rape when he was arrested again yesterday. Police say that two weeks before the parking lot incident, Rothbard allegedly lured a 13-year-old girl and her 14-year-old friend to his house, where he resided with his pregnant wife. Prosecutors tell Newsday the 14-year-old walked in on him having sex with the younger girl. None of the victims were his students; Rothbard met them on MySpace posing as a 17-year-old with the screen name "DJ" or "D to the J." According to CBS2, the house is now empty and for sale, and Rothbard's lawyer says his client is on suicide watch and pleading not guilty. But Nassau County Police Lt. John Allen expects to find more victims, and the Valley Stream school district has barred Rothbard from school property and prohibited him from having any contact with children or their parents. He's currently behind bars in lieu of $600,000 bail, an amount his lawyer called excessive.
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$600,000 is not excessive bail for a person charged with raping children. if it's true, he's ruined their lives forever. period.
I think rape vs. statutory rape is an important distinction and the phrase "raping children" is a bit sensational when the story does not involve non-consensual sex with a prepubescent child.
I also think that declaring that a raped woman's life is ruined forever is very, very unfair to the woman. Maybe it would be easier for the victims to move on eventually if people didn't consider them tainted for life.
i was raped as a child and i was raped as an early teen and i can tell you from experience, my life was ruined by the rapes, not the way 'society' treats me. my life was ruined by the person that raped me. i am a male btw. i speak from experience, so unless you have this experience in your own personal past, and i hope you don't, you don't have the knowledge to comment as you have. it is the guilt that you yourself did something wrong, or that you somehow invited it to happen that eats at your. many times you can never have an actual adult relationship because of this. it doesn't matter if you're 11 or 14. those children under 18 are scarred for life, whether 'society' knows what happened to them or not.
I'm sorry for your experience. Some people do move on from rape though and it doesn't necessarily ruin their life - especially when you consider the percentage of women who have been raped. I'm sure it's much more scarring when it happens at an early age, but this teacher, as far as I can tell, had consensual sex with underage teens. It's quite a bit different from what you experienced and I don't think he should be treated in the same way as your attacker should have been (or was hopefully).
Not to diminish what happened to you, it's fair to distinguish between forced or coerced rape and straight-up statuatory rape. I know someone who lost his virginity to his [female] babysitter when he was 12. It certainly didn't ruin his life.
and i'm 52. i was given a life sentence by my rapist. it NEVER GOES AWAY.
"$600,000 is not excessive bail for a person charged with raping children. if it's true, he's ruined their lives forever. period."
That's not what bail is supposed to be about. It's meant only to guarantee that the accused person will appear in court for trial. So the potential effect on any victims isn't an element in it; the severity of the potential penalty is along with the accused person finances and ties to the community.
Still, I don't see this as excessive at all. The sentence could be severe and he apparently owns and is selling a house. The fact that the house is on the market hints that he could leave, the fact that he owns one means he likely has access to money. $600,000 likely means he can get out on a $60,000 bond.
what i meant when i said i didn't think the bail was excessive was just that it seems to be keeping him in jail right now, which i don't have a problem with. if the bail was only $25K or something low, he could be out and if the charges are true, more children could be in danger. i didn't mean to imply i felt bail was to used as a punishment, just that it seems to be keeping him in jail until all the facts come out in a trial.
Question to all you males on Gothamist:
Would you give up everything: house, wife, family, job, reputation just to have sex? Or maybe play out an ultimate fantasy?
I'm a female...and I can't imagine sex being so...I don't want to say "important" because sex is important in a relationship. But I can't imagine sex being that prominent in my life that I would risk losing everything for it.
Care to share some insight? Maybe having sex with young girls was his "thing", would you guys give up everything if it meant getting off to your "thing", whatever it may be?
If you go back through the gothamist archives I think there are far more female school teachers having affairs with male minors then the other way around. The punishments in those cases seem to pale in comparison to what's happening to this guy.
So why don't you answer those questions yourself and stop making sweeping generalizations about an entire sex.
It's the female teacher having sex with a male student that makes news. MAN BITES DOG headlines sell newspapers.
I'm not sure why you feel this is a gender based issue. There have been cases of females teachers committing statutory rape of their male students. These people are clearly sexual deviants whose lurid desires outweigh their rationality. Are you seriously asking if all men are sexual deviants, or just the ones that read gothamist?
i'm sure it has colored his thoughts concerning women and sex in some way. sex at 12, no matter what the circumstances are, is too young for a child to process.
"I'm a female...and I can't imagine sex being so...I don't want to say "important" because sex is important in a relationship. But I can't imagine sex being that prominent in my life that I would risk losing everything for it. "
Also WAY too much info tpooh. I think you should save that for your therapist.
Matty, don't be a jerk, it was a simple question. I was thinking of mentioning the fact that there has been equal amounts (or even more so) female teachers that have gone to jail for sexing up thier students, but I was talking about this particular story. If it had been about a female teachers, I would have directed the questions to the women commenters of Gothamist.
Next time don't make sweeping generalization about me. If you don't have anything productive to say regarding my post, don't bother replying.
@GG: It was a question asked to men in general...a poll more or less.
The way your question was phrased sounded like as a woman you can't understand why men would risk ruining their lives for a sexual fling. What's the point of asking just the men if you're not looking to compare genders?
He's got those "see you after class" eyes.
Yes, those are indeed bedroom eyes or in his case parking lot eyes.
Get in my car, let's go to Dairy Queen eyes.
Or just creepy boy band from Orlando eyes.
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Backstreet-Boys-group-01.jpg
He's got "just smoked a blunt all by myself" eyes.
Yep. They're only "bedroom eyes" if you have a thing for druggies.
eew.
He better start learning how to smoke some man pipe - to a big burly black lifer he's a veritable Playboy playmate...
Statutory rape is age discrimination for the young girls.
the scum bag is still getting paid too, he will get paid till he is convicted of something
EWWWWWWWW