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If you were anywhere near the Village this weekend, you probably noticed a sea of doe-eyed teenagers and their parents arriving at NYU and trying to get a quick verdict on if this whole "going to college in New York thing" is all it's cracked to be. Well the New York Post has taken a quick scan of the new course catalog and is quick to give them a heads up—it's bogus! The tabloid finds classes that require students to play Guitar Hero (for "psychological" purposes) and another on exercise and brain chemistry where students take an aerobics class for an hour before sitting down for a lecture. Neuroscience professor Wendy Suzuki explains, "I got the idea at Equinox Gym. I took this kickboxing and dance class that made me feel great. I thought if I could make my students feel like that after my class, I'd be the best teacher in the world!" If that's not enough, the paper digs deeper and finds television classes?!?!?! (NYU has one of the top-ranked TV and Film studies programs in the nation.) The Post claims that parents were "livid," like one dad who saw the Guitar Hero class, "I just wrote a big check here. I'm not paying for him to study video games. It seems a bit watered down."
Is NYU A Party School *Inside* The Classrooms?
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Where did the human fat go, that was horrible.
I hope they don't catch on to PokeALotOfSmot301.
Here's an idea.
Tell your retarded child that if he wants to go to NYU, to PAY FOR IT HIS OWN DAMN SELF.
Use that money you saved towards your retirement.
Oldie but a goodie:
NYU = Now You're Unemployed
NYWho? Sit in at the Starbucks tonight.
We will FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT to Nutmeg!
I hear they let them sit in rooms & listen to people just talk about the news, or like...dead guys, or even just read books. OMG.
The only reason to go to NYU is for its name and location. It's too large a school to get the personal attention a private school of its price and reputation should warrant.
And free grades. From what I understand, professors are strongly discouraged from handing out anything lower than a B.
Ever heard of the Stern curve? Limited number of As available in every class. CAS and Tisch may not have high bars, but Stern is tough.
Just get into a Nuriel Rabini seminar and submit thesis paper after thesis paper about the coming depression and why we should all jump out of windows. Guaranteed A.
Silly parent, you're not paying for your son's education, you're paying so that NYU can buy up more expensive Manhattan real estate.
NYU has a lot of strong departments and strong professors, but you have to WANT to take those classes. The math department, for example, is the top applied math department in the country, and the classes are quite difficult. As a result, very few NYU undergrads study mathematics.
The Pre-Med, Pre-Law, and many of the science departments are very strong... If you're interested in film, Tisch is one of the best in the country and can be quite rigorous... Gallatin, though, is a pretty weak program with many of the courses described above.
You can get a great education at NYU, but you have to be motivated to take the difficult classes. Otherwise, you're wasting your (parents') money.
All Very Good Points.
so the students returned this weekend and on monday we've already got an NYU-bashing article? well...that didn't take long.
Thanks, NY post: "Class on exercise and learning to feature exercise before learning"
Universities are mostly worthless diploma mills/money sinkholes when you let your teenagers go unchecked? Really? Someone, alert the media!
I still say no one should be allowed to teach without having practical experience in the field they are instructing. That would pretty much kill a large number of rather craptacular professors.
Why no go to a state school and you can get the same education 3/4 of NYU tuition. Students go to NYU because of the name and being in NYC. Nothing like bragging to other people you live in NYC - on loans.
From the Post article: "Psychology prof Gary Marcus is offering a freshman seminar on video games and human cognition called "Guitar Heroes (and Heroines): Music, Video Games and the Nature of Human Cognition."
Yeah? So? The Post is a worthless, scandal-mongering shit rag. The popularity of video games is a major phenomenon with consequences for economics, learning theory, leisure studies, and a whole host of other disciplines. The field of human cognition should absolutely be concerned with its causes and effects.
Maybe Psychology prof Gary Marcus could also teach his students how to dress and eat in public. That's another "major phenomenom with consequences for economics, learning theory, leisure studies, and a whole host of other disciplines."
To be fair, i'm in the neuroscience department, and have taken another of Wendy's classes (i'll also be taking this one, unfortunately, as this style of aerobics is much harder than the neuroscience). She is hands down the toughest professor in the program.
This course is part of a study run jointly between Dr. Suzuki and a professor at Columbia studying the effects of exercise on memory, with possible application to the treatment of alzheimers. so while it seems like a joke, it's really much more important than that.
Gallatin can be as hard or as easy as you want it to be. I know people who really dove into their concentrations - international development, international relations, etc - and used Gallatin resources to get into classes and internships at NGOs and the UN. I also know people who didn't do shit, but to say as though it's inherently a weak program is inaccurate.
i went to nyu and majored in math, my gpa was not bad but not stellar...my other friends who majored in "communications" "creative writing" ... etc...all did fabulously and had no work. like manitoba said, it's all whatever dept you are in. i actually was never aware of the poor rep nyu got based on its students until i got there. but i do agree, a lot of students go there and waste their parents $ and time. then again, a majority of private institutions are that way as well.
i opted against nyu for graduate school but not because of the rep. wanted to try something different so i went to columbia, go figure.