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A plump cob roller just flew by our window, and some New York City police officers actually defended a photographer's rights. Carlos Miller reports that recently a witness reported seeing a Japanese tourist toting an SLR getting harassed by a man who told him he was not allowed to take photos in the subway system or in Yankee Stadium (the origin of the report is at SubChat, where it's noted this took place at Rockefeller Center's northbound side). When the tourist stood up for his rights, the man got "slightly physical" and drew the argument out. The tourist found two NYPD officers to ask them the rules, "and was shockingly told that it was legal. In fact, the officers even walked downstairs with him and informed the man that photography was indeed legal." Score one for photographers, seems some in the NYPD actually got the memo!
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Yay!
As long as you're Japanese. Lets test them with some muslims from over in Paterson...
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this was because they nypd cops love any opportunity to what anyone's self respect down a little. maybe they didnt like the dude coming over all empowered at them about it. they do the skull cracking, at least one of them probably had their hands on the cuffs in case this dude didnt simmer down.
plus, everyone knows that the nypd don't crack down on tourists as they do on ny'ers. they have orders to be good to the tourist industry. and everyone knows you dont pay for tickets you get in country you're about to leave.
i mean, yeah, cool. its great that they actually followed a rule for once. this one time completely makes up
this was because they nypd cops love any opportunity to whack anyone's self-respect down a little. maybe they didnt like the dude coming over all empowered at them about it. they do the skull cracking, at least one of them probably had their hands on the cuffs in case this dude didnt simmer down.
plus, everyone knows that the nypd don't crack down on tourists as they do on ny'ers. they have orders to be good to the tourist industry. and everyone knows you dont pay for tickets you get in country you're about to leave.
i mean, yeah, cool. its great that they actually followed a rule for once. this one time completely makes up for everything else, thanks for doing nothing!
The guy that try to stop the photographer is the culprit. Was he Law Enforcement or a Rock Ctr employee on a power trip or just an ordinary busy-body.
I think it's the flash that is not supposed to be used.
The memo states lights and safe operation of the transit system.
I wouldn't want my conductor having impaired vision for even a second from a flash.
Well don't worry. If your conductor gets blinded, her 8 year old son should be right there to take the wheel!
Why? Are you afraid that he'll lose control of the train and it will jump the tracks onto the platform? When was the last time you saw somebody blinded by a camera flash?
Can easily happen if the conditions are right.
In a fit of post-9/11 paranoia, the TA did, at one point, propose banning all photography anywhere in the subway. After a storm of protest from both pols and the public, the authority realized the idea is both over-reaching and unenforceable. So they adopted a more focussed rule: no photography of security, control, or maintenance facilities. This primarily affects participants in the Transit Museum's tours.
So they adopted a more focussed rule: no photography of security, control, or maintenance facilities. This primarily affects participants in the Transit Museum's tours.
matthew, that is not true. There is no rule prohibiting photography of "security, control, or maintenance facilities". In fact, the rules were ultimately left unchanged after 9/11. The current rules can be found here: 21 NYCRR Part 1050. In short, photography is legal in all public areas of the system (i.e. if you're allowed to be there, you can take a photo of anything from there), but you can't use such extras as a flash or a tripod.
I don't think there's a prohibition against camera-mounted flashes. The rules say "lights," which I take to mean standalone strobes, softboxes, umbrellas, light stands, and other equipment that would take up platform space and could trip people.
As I understand it, it includes "camera mounted flashes". The only way you'll know is if you get a police officer to observe you using the flash. It helps if there's an oncoming train.
Yeah at the point of using tripods and the sort, they want to price gouge you for permits and the sort.