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A new report [pdf] from the NYC Health Department and Department of Education finds that physically fit students tend to outscore their less-fit peers on academic tests. During the 2007-2008 school year, students who scored in the top 5% on their fitness tests outscored the bottom 5% by an average of 36 percentile points on standardized academic tests. But it's also possible overweight kids score poorly on those tests because bullies are constantly kicking the backs of their chairs. The new report further examines childhood obesity in NYC and finds that 21% of kindergarten through eighth grade students are obese, and nearly 40% of all students are overweight or obese. In a statement, NYC Health Commissioner Dr. Thomas Farley said, "When four out of 10 school kids are overweight or obese, the city has a problem." Part of that problem is that 14% of middle- and high-school students hadn't even been offered a physical-education class this school year, according to a recent survey cited by the Post.
Obese Students Get Worse Grades Than Fit Kids
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The problem is that there are no vegan school options.
kid's weren't fat years ago, there were no vegan options then. explain.
Answer the question, felix.
This is absolutely not the problem you moron.
The problem is there are no vegan school lunch options.
No the problem is that the kids DON'T exercise enough. They are sedentary and don't have enough physical education. Additionally after school they sit around all day and play video games, watch television, or play around on the computer... I have seen some obese vegans as well
probably mostly true that lack of exercise is the problem... not only for the obvious reasons, but also because physical activity helps keep neurons/connections in the brain active that otherwise wouldn't be used.
No, exercise is not the only issue but diet and a vegan diet is healthier and leaner.
Yes making sure pre pubescent children are lean should be the priority here... These studies are flawed in that children who qualify as obese now may be "normal" after a few more growth spurts in their ensuing years of development...
those kids have more than baby fat, they are obese beyond what is normal.
I never said it was baby fat-the extra weight they may carry at 9 years old may vanish when they grow another 6-18 inches in the ensuing years. If they continue to abuse their bodies as adults then the poor food choices they made in their youth will plague them. But they still need to exercise-something that is not encouraged. My kids are in public school and they have gym once a week. That is not enough...
but it isn't only lack of exercise but diet, both must be combined. And it is hard to exercise when you're fat, extra baggage on the joints and muscles. That is why diet is important. People who are leaner tend to exercise more
Humans are not designed for vegan diets. Our bodies need some meat occasionally, but not often. Soy doesn't cut it unless you want man b00bs.
That's another problem: people who believe and hope that their fat 150 lb kid will outgrow his obesity when he hits puberty.
"he's not fat, he's just big-boned" - gotta love moms
no news flash there. they're probably spending more time eating junk food, playing video games than studying.
Felix -don't you wish you could delete your comment and re-post? oh well
"When four out of 10 school kids are overweight or obese, the city has a problem."
the problem is 4 out of 10 school kids' parents are ignorant and lazy.
it's true, shit food is usually the cheapest easily available option.. but of people shitheads learned to cook and passed mcdonalds and walked the extra block to the grocery story, you'd find that eating vegetables is cheaper... plus make fat kids carry the bags and get some much needed exercise.
I believe the Oompa Loompa's say it best:
Who do you have... to... blame?
The Mother and the FaAather....
Maybe they can carry their own bookbags too, instead of using those flight attendant rolly-cart ones. Are trapper keepers really that heavy to carry on your back?
You can't score well on a test when you are so hungry for some Twinkies.
That's not surprising to me in the least. There were no obese kids in the top 50 of my HS's graduating class and that was eight years ago. Almost no obese people at all at my selective college. I wonder if it has something to do with the hormones that the fat stores in your body produce?
The majority of men with LARGE sticking out guts are meat eaters. I am vegan and most of the vegans are not as fat as meat and dairy consumers.
Didn't we have this conversation? You can't take a tiny percentage of people (vegans) and make maths.
It's like saying "All pirates with peg legs have scurvy, therefore all obese people eat too much meat"
i am a meat and dairy consumer and i am not obese. please explain. i love eating meat. there is nothing better than sitting down with a nice bloody steak
here! here!
but they're still FAT.
I am not a supporter of Atkins-related diets, but I can say that my dad was his leanest when he was on a mostly-protein diet. I would bet soda and other sugars are the biggest contributors to obesity in youngsters. Those giant guts that your talking about are mostly caused by massive amounts of beer. I see skinny hipsters with guts all the time, and they're probably all vegans.
Also McDonalds plays a large factor in the obesity rates and pollution rates. Have you seen all the trash bags that McDonalds put out every night? McDonald is evil
No one forces people to eat at McDonald's. People make poor food choices... resulting in poor health. Children are inclined to make poor food choices as they act on impulse when they are hungry. Even if kids were given a vegan choice in the cafeteria do you think they would even touch it?
Yes, children are more open-minded than adults. There are many vegan school lunch options in private schools but not in public schools. give them an option and I bet the kids will chose better than their close-minded parents.
Do you have kids? How can you say they are more receptive to a vegan menu???
I mentor kids and kids are very open-minded. They are compassionate and want to save their planet and the animals. In Harlem, some kids were open to vegan food but they are surrounded by mcdonalds and KFCs and their parents raise them on that diet.
I am glad you mentor kids. I agree that the choices presented to kids are abominable and that parents need to set the tone for their children. If the parents are eating disgusting, bloated food, they in turn will force that shit on their kids... It is all about choices-I feel badly for the kids whose parents take them out for fast food on a regular basis... it is sheer laziness on their part. I firmly believe that the schools need to provide more physical activities for the kids-as a way of establishing good patterns in life.
people get fat on their own....no one is force feeding that shit down their throats.
They make the conscious decision to walk/waddle into a McDonalds or whatever fast food chain and eat that food.
McDonalds offers salads and diet options. But, there aren't enough takers.
Kids dont buy mcdonalds on their own. someone has to give them money and the idea. Its also entirely possible to grow up without eating fast food and being fat. Its nice there are some kids are receptive to this whole vegan ness plan you kept talking about but stop using something else as a scapegoat. theres no one to blame but the family themselves
I think this is a case of correlation, not causation. Obesity in kids and lower grades both stem from the same cause (poor socio-economic status), the former doesn't cause the latter.
http://sequelnaturals.com/vega
This diet makes you leaner and stronger.
Just because you play video games doesn't automatically make you fat. Common senses shows if you eat more than your supposed to you get fat. Don't Parents realize when their kids are getting fucking fat.
Bottom Line
Lazy parents = Fat Kids
The parents are fat and their kids are eating what the parents eat. That is why it would help to have vegan school lunch options in schools. So children will be introduce to a different diet than the one at home.
School Lunch isn't even that fattening and I don't EVER remembering any kid actually finishing their school lunch bc they probably still taste like shit. Its not like school lunches are overwhelmingly large or come with desserts
School lunches that are vegan? Never gonna happen and if it did, whomever ate it would be quickly labeled as a fag.
Kids should do what I did. A simple ham lettuce tomato sandwich from home.
All problem stem from home and environment
As I stated, children are more open minded than their parents. Why would you call a child a fag for choosing a vegan lunch? that is ignorant and quite homophobic.
are you serious? Kids get called out for doing anything out of the ordinary. You think the 10 year old boy who picks the vegan menu isn't gonna get called out on it. Its called being in reality.
Yeah in a perfect world we wouldn't have these problems but have you been to a public school playground. Theres more curse words than watching Goodfellas
out of the ordinary? seriously, those kids strive out of the ordinary. They don't want to conform. Have you seen how they dress, their hair, their language? C'mon, those kids don't want to be ordinary.
Dressing crazy and using slang is not being nonconformist if everyone else is doing it too. Osaka's right, kids are more likely to conform because they get hell from their peers if they don't. Of course I don't think the desire to be unique is going to drive anyone towards bean sprouts for lunch.
I do believe vegan lunch options should be available on a small scale for vegan students (of which there are not many), not as a large scale treatment for childhood obesity
I agree with your idea of providing kids better food while in school away from their idiot parents. I just don't agree that healthier food is feasible.
I'm pretty sure the food in the school systems isn't top notch, and that's justifiable. Foods high in fat don't necessarily cost a lot and tastes better. Schools don't have enough money to provide healthier food. Kids get fatter. This might come down to your boy bloomie, not McDonalds or veganism.
The kids are as fat as their parents, you won't see a normal sized adult with a fat child unless the child suffers from a medical condition. Normally, I see a whole fat family, the kids and the parents are FAT. Vegan diets are not costlier than regular diets and they are healthier and leaner. Teach the kids about a vegan diet and give them the vegan lunch option.
Eating meat promotes good muscle growth in kids. Felix please have some respect for the animals that gave their life so we could have a satiety.
I think you are arguing two points here and that's why the point isn't sticking.
Is anyone interested in forming a mob to track Felix down and force him meat and dairy?
Well nobody at school ate vegan when I was a kid yet there was only 1 fat boy all through my elementary school years! I would never advocate veganism; I love food variety and authenticity; duck-flavor tofu is just ridiculous and vegans look miserable while eating their salads (again).
This wasn't a problem when we had them working the textile mills.
Ha, awesome.
Diet is essential, as you grow older you will have less free time to exercise and how much exercise do you expect kids to do? Diet choices are easier to learn then you're young and easier to maintain as you grow older. That is why vegan school lunch option would help the obesity problem and keep them away from McDonalds.
Lunch options = Lunch choices
McDonald's has options. Kids don't choose them.
Hey Felixthecat2
Are you a vegan that lives in Brooklyn somewhere?
Cuz if you are...
you are a fuckin hipster.
Push the vegan campaign on the NYC Board of Education...not here.....
Wait...I'm not sure I understand your point. Can you maybe repeat it?
No doubt this kid has bad grades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRY6d-Pvoa0
Yo I saw that during the game and almost pissed myself.
Thanks for finding it!
awesome.
fat kids are delicious.
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The tests are obviously biased against fat kids. They need to throw out all the results and design a new test.
::Sotomayor mode
I'm just happy the fat stay-puff marshmallow kid is back.
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
We need to hold the fast food industry accountable for their contribution to the obesity epidemic.
They have been able to avoid the blame by offering "healthy options" and promoting active lifestyles.
The fast food industry does not have its consumers in mind and nor does their health concern them.
For more information about the current climate associated with the fast food debate please check out http://valuethemeal.blogspot.com
Hey asshole... The choices you make in life are to blame not the businesses smart enough to profit off ignorant people who make terrible choices.
I'll have a side of personal responsibility.
that is some panty-munching bull shit. what business really cares about their customers? not one. they care about profit. and companies make profit off of people who choose their product or service because they like what is being offered. people are responsible for the choices they make, including those made on behalf of their children. period.
No wonder Felix thinks we're the same person...
ha, yeah that was pretty crazy. get outta my head!
Dude, you're way behind the times. Personal responsibility went out with the Corvair. People these days are far too fat and stupid (apparently they're linked!) to know what's best for them. Thank God we have the government -- and trial attorneys -- to make sure none of us is tricked into doing something that fails to advance our health and welfare.
A few more years, and we'll be merrily living in San Angeles, safe with our Taco Bell restaurants that only serve healthy, vegan, unsalted, fat-free food. Joy-joy!
DEMOLITION MAN!!!
Awesome.
Hey you. I'm talking to you. You created an account for ONE post and don't follow up?
I'm instigating, of course.
The real problem is the recession. NYC kids are no longer able to score large amounts of coke from their Wall Street moms and dads. That's why they are putting on more weight.
Well maybe not. And while I don't eat meat, I don't think meat is the problem. Kids like garbage like cafeteria pizza, fries and ice cream, or at least they did when I was in school. Not many kids are gonna ask for tofu and a salad. But, maybe school shouldn't offer pizza, fries and ice cream.
I agree. If anything, dairy is the problem. There are more grams of fat per ounce in cheese and milk products than in meat on average. My vegetarian roommate was a fatass; he ate pizza every night.
find a fat parent find a fat child.
even if it's just one parent who's overweight.
Vegan is the answer and all the juvenile labels such as fag and hipstet only reflects on your own ignorance. Do you want your kids as fat and unhealthy as you? If not then go vegan
Because you are annoying and wrong I will be eating a delicious goose for dinner on your behalf. In fact I will be buying 3 geese in total.
shut up with the vegan talk already.
Feeding a child vegan diet is abusive and will lead to a pygmy malnourished child. Kids may not need red meat, but they need lean protein (not soy) such as milk, eggs, fish, lean chicken, etc. You cannot get a well-balanced diet from supplements and soy along!
If veganism is such a cure-all, why is it that whenever I see a news story about a supercentenarian, they invariably say they don't diet, aren't vegans or even vegetarians?
I'm a committed omnivore. I like it, I eat it, often in copious quantities. When I say, "I'm fat," my friends say, "Shut up. I hate you." There's something about a 32" waist, a BMI of 23 and blood pressure of 120/70 that people seem to resent.
And why is it vegans have no skin color? That always freaks me out?
Oy, here we go.
Weight is solely based on the laws of thermodynamics.
Its all input versus output. Calorie rich foods (carb/protein 4 Kcal/gm, fat 9 KCal/gm depending on your national/scientific KCal def) plus lack of energy consumption (sedentary) equals storage of KCals as weight. Our evolutionary inheritance from survival of those who could survive the feast/famine times. Nutrients and balance are, of course, important, now that we have a wide variety of foods available daily.
If parents let their kids get fat, it's their fault. Lazy to themselves & their offspring, and it will be passed on. As a was in the discussion tonight with my kids (omnivores, good BMI), balance is essential. Let us not forget three of my favorite herbivores: the elephant, the hippopotamus, and the water buffalo. Extremism begets so many neuroses & eating disorders, as well as some really messed-up thinking, as does parental laziness. Gonna go lay out the London Broil, fresh steamed veggies & tossed greens with olive oil/balsamic for the kiddies. Golden delicious, cherries & raspberries for dessert. I will be enjoying my Merlot. Screw the extremism, attention and rational thought is what counts. And, In Re the above, I would be very cautious about letting any individual "mentor"ing my kids who I did not vet & who did not have kids themselves.
Oh my god. A rational comment. Dadoc, you will be reported to the authorities, you extremist.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3036841
Prince is a vegetarian and he is strong and healthy
Hitler was also a vegetarian.
Hitler wasn't vegetarian, get your facts straight at least.
For all practical purposes Hitler WAS a vegetarian. He was also a crazy animal activist that cared more about animals than people.
Preaching to people about veganism, vegetarianism, religion, politics, etc doesn't do anything but annoy people, and rarely changes anyones mind. I'd love to see people putting healthier food into their bodies and force food companies to change their ways, but some people don't care and will continue to stuff shit in their face until they're fat and diseased. And if that's how they want to go out, so be it. But it is true that eating a healthier diet will make you feel better overall. We are what we eat.
you're all missing the point of the article: FAT PEOPLE ARE DUMBER THAN NORMAL PEOPLE.
subtext from all the comments: vegans are crazy nutjobs
Kids can really eat just about anything they want, within reason, and be fine. Veganism is not the answer, and in my opinion, is too restrictive for a growing child. Kids need milk, eggs, fish, chicken, etc. along with all of their fruits, grains and veggies. The key is to keep the amount of sugar, corn syrup and salt to a minimum.
The problem, though, really is that kids don't exercise or move much anymore. When I was growing up, we ate whatever the hell we wanted to, but starting in 1st grade, I had 2 hours of required exercise every day, 5 days a week, and I went to summer camps or had jobs where I moved around physically in the summer for 8-10 hours a day. Who cares if you eat a large sausage pizza by yourself for dinner when you're 15 years old and you have very intense football practice for 2 hours in the heat?
When we all went to college, we gained 15-20 pounds, not because we were eating more, but because most of us stopped having some sort of required daily exercise or sport, and we weren't growing as much (or at all). After that sort of physical "shock", most people learn to start exercising for fun, modifying their diets (choosing veganism if they want), or they just continue on to become fat adults.
Now, though, kids get 15-30 minutes of required exercise per WEEK and never learn to modify their diets or how to exercise properly. Few things are sadder than a really fat teenager; their bodies are designed to become more lean and grow out of the baby fat, but when there's too much fat already along with too much sugar and no exercise, they're doomed to a life of obesity and diabetes.
Well, if the parents are too stupid to feed their kids properly, it's a good bet their kids aren't too bright either. Genetics.
I can't get over how fat that kid is in the picture. Now thats a fat bastard.
felix stop touching the kids you mentor
Nobody cares about any individual people being fat. People are free to make their own choices that affect only themselves. However, government needs to intervene when one individual's poor choices threaten other people. There is a limited pool of (for example) doctors, defibrillators, ambulances, etc... Other people being unhealthy makes my health insurance worse and more expensive. An obesity epidemic raises pollution, the cost of flying, and so on and so forth.
If other people are unwilling to take responsibility for their fatness then the government SHOULD intervene -- for the benefit of *everybody*.
Sincerely, a non-fat, non-skinny, organic omnivore who tries to make recipes from scratch and generally avoids HFCS.
bad eating habits and lack of exercise create fat people. being fat contributes to various ailments and increases healthcare costs.