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Officer Joel Witriol
Brodigan says Witriol told her, "'If you're going to act like a woman I'm going to treat you like a woman.' He punched me in the back (there are bruises)... and grabbed my breasts and pinched them." But Kelly tells WABC, "There's no indication of that. And if the complainant says she was, and that will be investigated by the civilian complaint review board."
Witriol, photographed here by a reader who spotted him at Broadway Junction Tuesday, has not commented publicly on the incident. Nor has any other media outlet besides the NY Post quoted a witness, identified only as Viane Delgado, who claims Brodigan shouted, "You f---ing Jew, you're not even human," at Witriol, who is the city's first Hasidic officer. Another witness, Jason Wagner, claims that he was with Brodigan throughout almost the entire incident, and insists, "I did not hear her say anything about him being Jewish." Brodigan, who says she was having a panic attack during the arrest, denies using any anti-Semitic slurs, though she concedes she argued heatedly with Witriol and used vulgarities.
We have not (yet) been able to raise Viane Delgado. Just for argument's sake, let's review the time line. At 4:42 p.m. on Monday, we broke the full story, "Woman Says Misogynistic Cop Arrested Her, Punched Her, Grabbed Breasts for Carrying Pug in Subway." At 5:10 p.m., the Post emailed us for help contacting Brodigan. And some time before the Post's print edition went to bed, their reporters were able to track down a witness and a second "source," who effectively took the heat off the NYPD and flipped the incendiary story 180 degrees, turning Brodigan into the tabloid villain. And no one ever hears from Viane Delgado again?
Were Post reporters able to canvass the Bedford Avenue subway station for witnesses—the same witnesses cops had ordered to disperse on Monday? It seems more plausible that Delgado's statement was taken from the police report and leaked to the Post. Which, considering cops' previously-cited inclination to straight-up lie on police reports, might very well have been fabricated to deflect the provocative allegations.
An NYPD spokesman, Kevin Cavitolo, tells us the department is conducting an investigation into Brodigan's allegation of excessive force. He refused to elaborate on any witness statements contained in the police report, but when asked if any witnesses had reported hearing anti-Semitic remarks, Cavitolo said, "That sounds like something you're reading in other papers." Screw it, we're filing a Freedom of Information Act request to see this police report. In the meantime, Viane, if you're out there, we're urging you to come forward!
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Oh Christ, fuck me. Not another one...
What is outrageous is that the NYPD and the NY Post invents a hispanic witness to play the race card and cover up his abuse of the lady and her pug. I hope they suspend him ALL DAY ALL NIGHT
Why isn't it plausible that the Post received a leaked police report? Did you read the entire blog post?
"Delgado's statement was taken from the police report and leaked to the Post."
Why do you care?! Her pug wasn't hurt. This story is about as interesting as the hipster grifter, remember her?!
hipster gifter was a criminal and his lady was abused by the police and for what? Because her sick pug wasn't in the carrier as she was Existing the station.
this lady ....
this lady ....
this lady...
this lady...
which lady?
Tell us about the "witness" NY Post. Why was he not mentioned by any other news outlet? Did Rupert make you change the headline and find a "witness" to paint the story as an anti-semetic woman got what she deserved instead of some awful mongrel taking a poor girl's dog away. Don't forget who OWNS THE POST...Mr. Zionist himself.
Mayor Bloomberg does not own the Post.
CD re: the NY Post:
America's oldest continuously published daily piece of bullshit
fourth. i'm fourth.
That's what she said...
viane delgado? GUILTY!
Next.
keep at it JDS. be we all knew the Post likes to embellish stories. don't even know why the so called glamorous people read this rag. and it's .50 now.
Police never lie!!
*holds in laughter*
this controversy is so yesterday.
what's with your fascination, JDS? are you romantically linked to chrissie or what?
the tongues of greenpoint will be wagging tonight!
dammit i was just typing in the "so yesterday" line!!
you beat me to it this time pilgrim...
well, i've been waiting since yesterday to crack that one. so in a way, i lose.
"what's with your fascination, JDS? are you romantically linked to chrissie or what?"
I think so. He knows she has bruises on her back, despite no proof.
"He punched me in the back (there are bruises)"
And the bruises could have been created by her cellmates.
But, does he know about any bruises on the pinched nipples? Then we'd have ourselves another 300 comment post. But, John, no pictures please. Yucky.
Dear Chrissie,
i just watch you stuff the poor pug in that small bag. I don't blame him for throwing up in that small bag. I am sorry police hit you but BUY a carrier for the dog! Stores sell many types with open flaps on the top and sides. geez
Isn't it cruelty to animals to stuff a pug in a backpack? All Pugs have breathing problems as it is. Why aren't you more angry with her that her dog was crammed in a bag?
To use your logic, what if 7 babies were stuffed in a duffel bag? How would you feel then?
Felix would love it if 7 babies were stuff in a duffelbag - if they were Jewish babies. It would be tough for him to weigh out which is stronger: his love of animals, or his hatred of Jews. In in the end though, his hatred would win out. Loving animals while being really paranoid and hateful about the world reminds me of some major historical figure... can't really remember who though...
stop playing the victim and playing the race card. I support all animal right and all human rights and just because I don't support Israel bombing schools and killing children doesn't meant i hate jews.
this thread, it burns
this guy has no business being a cop anyway, how can someone be impartial when they live such a filthy and close-minded lifestyle
And if anyone knows about filthy and closed minded it's you
Gothamist is pathetic. She was a typical liberal bitch. You think new yorkers give a shit about some transplant from Virginia who was 'grabbed'by the police? Can you all march down 5th ave now? The horror, the horror.
Where do you see Gothamist being favorable to the 'liberal bitch'?
I give a shit. I know a lot of other people who do to.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Like a typical conservative bitch, you imagine you are speaking for the entire New York?
I'll tell you one thing about New York: most of us are liberals. That's a fact.
Did you just yell at 'just another day' for "speaking for the entire New York" and then go and do it yourself?
Did you forget to eat your tofu this morning?
Read what I said again, you illiterate dope. FYI: I ate pork this morning.
God knows why you read this blog. If it infuriates you so, stick with Alabamist.
talladegaist
God knows why you read this blog. If it infuriates you so, stick with Alabamist.
decaturist
God knows why you read this blog. If it infuriates you so, stick with Alabamist.
selmaist
says the guy from alabama.
Dothanist
says the guy from alabama.
Opelikaist
Mother effing WORD.
Mother effing WORD.
I would like to know more about this other witness as well. After all, it wouldn't be the first time that a newspaper has gotten the story half-right or completely wrong.
Of course even if there were anti-semitic remarks, it wouldn't justify any kind of excessive force, but after seeing the photos and seeing the bruises I'm thinking that claims of brutality and excessive force are WAY over the top.
Considering all the things I see on the subway every day, arresting someone for having their dog in a non-carrier specific bag seems outrageously excessive, unless there are other mitigating factors - if the suspect became violent or threatening while being issued a summons for example.
As for the allegedly sexist remarks of the officer, I suspect that the officer was trying to speak the kind of cop-speak we often hear ("If you act like a gentleman, we will treat you like a gentleman," etc.) but probably suffered from English not being his first language and butchered the phrase. If he groped the chick's tits though, he should be thrown off the force ASAP, and the NYPD should think about the kind of hires it makes.
It does not surprise me that the NYPD and the Post find witnesses, imaginary or otherwise, who somehow miraculously exonerate the police. Keep in mind there were witnesses on the scene who called the police because of the way this cop was acting, and they were ordered to disperse.
She wasn't stopped because she had a non-carrier specific bag. She was stopped because her dog was out, a violation of MTA rules. She was then arrested (as far as I can tell) because she became combative, abrasive and tried to walk away from the situation.
Meanwhile, as the Post searches for Viane Delgado, a dyslexic reporter and a Miss. Diane Velgado sip coffee in an outdoor cafe and share a laugh...
ha! genius.
everyone, let's get real. the issue is not the dog. the issue is whether this cop, jewish or not, used the power of his position/uniform to verbally and sexually harass a young woman. regardless of any other details, THAT is what needs to be investigated. end of story.
This cop said he was going to put the dog down. Why is he threatening to kill the dog?
Sick animals are humanely put down everyday. It may not be final solution but it is a societal health solution.
Post a video or it didn't happen.
Thank you!
oh this is excelent now kelly is on my brother the jewish cops side
Ah! He's your brother. Your comments make sense now.
...or are they "brothers" as in "bro" or "bra"?
REMEMBER PLEASE KEEP HER HANDCUFFED ALL DAY ALL NIGHT UNTILL SHE DROPS DEAD
Okay, I'll remember that. I'll also remember to pee and poop on her when I see her.
THIS LADY IS A DISGUSTING LIAR WHO BLEW UP THIS ENTIRE STORY JUST TO GET SOME ATTENTION
blowing up to get attention?
i can't imagine you know anything about that...
SHE BELONGS IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION
SHE IS LOSING CREDIBILTY BY THE DAY
This is why I don't like these religious zionists, god forgive that you even question or criticize them in any way, you have the whole bunch attacking and persecuting you for the rest of your remaining days.
AND BEST OF ALL OFFICER WITRIOL ARRESTED ANOTHER FEMALE OFFENDER LAST NIGHT WHOM NOBODY WITNESSED BUT I DID KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK JEWISH COP WE LOVE YOU EVEV POLICE COMMISSIONER DOES
Uh. Wow.
EVEN POLICE COMMISSIONER RAY KELLY IS ON HIS SIDE
SHE MADE FALSE ALLEGATIONS
you make Edex look sane,.
I AM SORRY TO INFORM YOU CHRISSIE BRODIGAN YOU NEED HELP AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GET IT FAST
Mr O'Reilly,
Shouldn't you be filming the news right now?
Perhaps you can post video on youtube to explain what really happened please?
THE OFFICER DID NOT ABUSE HER IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM HE WAS JUST DOING HIS JOB REQIRED BY LAW IN FACT Chrissie Brodigan CURSED AT HIM AND SAID ANTI JEWISH REMARKS AGAINST HIM AND LIED AND BLEW UP HER STORY JUST TO GET ATTENSION
Is this the 12-year-old son of officer Witriol? I guess school is out for the summer?
how do you know? Were you there? Are you married to the hasidic cop?
WOW. You actually found the caps lock for a second.
It's not his fault:
http://twurl.cc/17uq
lol.
I bet $5 that they can't be bothered to "find" the caps lock, but *can* copy & paste! Ridiculous.
I think he finally discovered the cut and paste feature when he realized that he couldn't spell her name.
I AM APPALED BY HER LIES SHE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP JUST FOR THAT BESIDES FOR THAT INCIDENT
Actually, I seen her on youtube and on ABC local report and she seems credible.
I HOPE Chrissie Brodigan is enjoying her handcuffs ON HER SMALL WRISTS
You are improving with your cap lock handicap. Hang in there I know you can do it!!!
NO I AM NOT MARRIED TO THE HASADIC COP BUT TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE POLICE COMMISSIONER RAY KELLY IS MARRIED TO HIM LOL BUT AT LEAST HE LIKES HIM ALOT
You're his brother, correct? That's what you stated above.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK OFFICER JOEL WITRIOL WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS LIKE YOU
Gothamist did a great job of breaking this story and JDS has done a great great job of reporting it, this is why I come here increasingly more often for my news.
is that meant to be sarcastic?
no! totally sincere, I'm quick to be negative when I don't like something, so I thought I should express what a good job JDS/gothamist do sometimes. man, a guy can't say anything around here!
AND THE OFFICER DID A GREAT JOB ARRESTING HER BETTER THEN THOSE WHO REPORTED THIS STORY IN THE FIRST PLACE
HEY DEL SIGNORE CAN WE GET SOME PICTURES OF THIS BRODIGAN BROAD? I NEED TO ASSESS HER CREDIBILITY.
Yup. Good one.
JDS might actually find more scandal if the police falsified their report and invented a false witness named Delgado.
KEEP THAT LADY HANDCUFFED ALL DAY ALL NIGHT KEEP HER IN A JAIL CELL WHERE SHE BELONGS IN FACT THIS LADY IS NOT EVEN WORTH THE TIME AND DAY TO EVEV DISCUSS HER
Do you know the cop personally? Are you friends or related?
Jesus, what's with all the comments in ALL CAPS?
Either a very obsessed troll or...no, that's it. It was sort of annoying at first, then funny, but now it's down to downright scary.
get with the program:
http://twurl.cc/17uq
NO I AINT HIS BROTHER TO ALL THOSE WHO THINK THAT I AM IN FACT I AM A MUSLIM
How about you're a Muslim woman, the same age as Brodigan? That would make you really credible.
You're aren't muslim, yesterday I asked you to type Allah is great and you type the officer was greater than allah. No muslim would ever say a person is greater than allah. who are you?
THIS IS IN CAPS----and this is not in caps---BUT LIKE I STATED I PERFER TO COMMENT IN CAPS----AND IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT KISS MY ASS
"kiss my ass" LOL, I would rather ride the train with the pug than with you. tell me how you will piss and crap on her as you did last night.
Only the cop would kiss your ass and he can't because you're an annoying swine
Oh for the love of god can someone just block this guy already. I thought for a minute there that the comments today might actually be halfway interesting, what with the handful of actually reasonable comments around 12:30 or so.
Also, I'd be really interested in seeing that police report, if you guys can track it down.
THIS LADY IS NOT WORTH THE TIME AND DAY TO DISCUSS
Oh, the irony.
Ha. I laughed.
I have a feeling that "just another day" is just jake bronstein creating another clipping to peddle his services.
"See NYPD, I can stick up for you no matter what!" "Check out these page views (thanks Jen)" "over 75 comments" "I'm changing people's minds." "Sorry about lying about my car getting towed"
BY THE WAY FOR ALL THOSE OF YOU A PUG DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A DOG OR A PUPPY BUT IS SOUNDS RATHER LIKE A BIG FAT RAT AS HER PET
Seriously, what is your obsession? why are you so angry? last night you say you were angry at her for her lies. But do you go after everyone who lies? Why are you so obsessed with this lady. She didn't do anything to you. Also I prefer to ride the train with pug than with you, no doubt.
ALSO HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO ME???
poetic.
"It seems more plausible that Delgado's statement was taken from the police report and leaked to the Post. Which, considering cops' previously-cited inclination to straight-up lie on police reports, might very well have been fabricated to deflect the provocative allegations."
So at Gothamist we just assume all cops are liars?
Not all cops, just the ones who have several witnesses accusing them of the exact same misconduct, and only one witness in their "defense" (which consists solely of calling the victim an anti-semite, which still wouldn't justify the cop's alleged actions even if it were true), who wasn't even seen by anyone except for the Post, and who is contradicted by several other witnesses who can be produced. If that's not good enough for you, I don't know what is.
As an aside, I find it interesting that, in the Post article, Brodigan is identified as 32 years old, and the witness that confirms her story is identified as 29. No age is given for the witness who accuses Brodigan of having made anti-semitic comments.
Wasnt there a story recently about a guy on a bike who got into it in CP...and then another one in the west village? And like this..NOBODY GIVES A FUCK.
Im sorry the big bad policeman grabbed your arm. Somehow you will have to pick up the pieces and go on with your life. I know its hard. Bet you wont be bringing a puking dog on the train anymore.
And a week later, its like it never happened.
Chrissie Brodigan is an icedible liar
OFFICER JOEL WITRIOL DID NOT DO A BLESID THING WRONG THE OFFICER WHOSE NAME IS JOEL WITRIOL IS INNOCENT AND chissie brodigan is 100% percent GUILTY PERIOED!!!!!
SHE IS A DISGUSTING LIAR
why is she taking her sick dog on the subway? there are plenty of vets in greenpoint and williamsburg.
THATS MY QUESTAIN ALSO
Perhaps her dog wasn't sick when she entered the station but during the ride.
HER DOG WAS NOT SICK AT ANYTIME NOT ON THE TRAIN NOT IN THE STATION
NOTHING WILL COME OUT OF THIS THE COP IN THE MEANTIME IS ENJOYING LIFE AND WILL CONTINUE TO ENJOY LIFE
internet j o o brigade mobilization /ON
Shut up already! This cop will be the most heckled NYPD officer ever--he will be begging for desk duty. Both parties act like they are in need of attention. Is "just another day" the same person as "I LOVE POLITICKS"? Ugh! Enough with the caps.
yes, he is the same person. First he was "the woman arrested is a bitch and the jewish may keep his great work", then he was "justanotherday" and now he is "ilovepoliticks"
http://gothamist.com/profile/kevin19352424
WRONG THIS COP IN FACT WILL BE THE MOST RESPECTED OFFICER
CHRISSIE BRODIGAN NEEDS TO SEE A DOCTER FOR HER EMOTIONAL DISORDERS
I'm sure that by carrying her dog in the subway, she was just being a nonconformist, just everybody else she knows.
WRONG THIS COP IN FACT WILL BE THE MOST RESPECTED OFICER AND WILL NOT HECKLED
and out come the crazies...
Yep.
HEY felixthecat2--- IN YOUR PROFILE YOU STATE THAT YOU FUCKED MAYOR MIKE BLOOMBERG HARD DO YOU MIND TELLING US ALL HOW DID YOU DO THAT EXCACTLY, IT WOULD BE VERY INTERISTING AND WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU DID IT SO PLEASE TELL US ALL HOW YOU FUCKED MAYOR MIKE BLOOMBERG
do you support Doucheberg? Let's meet for some drinks. send me your number sweetie.
PRAISE HASHEM FOR OFFICER VITRIOL I WOULD LIKE TO KISS HIS PAYES HE IS THE GREATEST POLICE OFFICER OF ALL TIME RIIIIIIGHT?
I AM WITH YOU BROTHER PRASIE HASHEM OFFICER JOEL WITRIOL IS THE BEST AND CHRISSIE BRODIGAN IS INSANE PEROIED
BEFORE I DO THAT AND HAVE DRINKS YOU GOT TO TELL US HOW YOU FUCKED BLOOMBERG
I won't tell you but show you. Why are you so angry at this poor woman, she did nothing to you. You should be ashamed on how you are harassing and spewing such hateful thing
YOU SEE JOHN MATRIX IS 100% CORRECT PRAISE HASHEM THAT WE HAVE A WONDERFULL OFFICER LIKE JOEL WITRIOL
I wish this many people were concerned about the 2 gay men who were brutally gay bashed on the Upper East Side recently. Or by the people displaced form their homes on 2nd avenue... While it doesn't involve the theatrics of this-it is far more disturbing. I wish readers would complain about the 19th Precinct and how indifferent they are to this. But since there is a sick pug, a Hasidic cop, a blogging woman, and 8 million poorly written replies by felixthecat2 the attention is diverted-sadly so...
Why are you attacking me? Why don't you do something yourself? I don't you go to the 19th station and do a protest? Why don't you call out Quinn as I have done in the pass for not serving the community and her silence and compliance???? I have many battles in this city but I am ONE person. I like when I am in a fur demo how people come up to me with their furs and tell me to help the hungry children. They nasty fur coat can feed many children. I am against all police brutality and especially when they falsified reports. IT IS ALL CONNECTED. Stop thinking in little boxes. When we hold the police accountable then all the issues will be addressed.
Instead of whining about what you think I SHOULD DO, why do you go to the police station and protest? Why don't YOU DO SOMETHING. Why must I SOLVED ALL your issues as well. STAND UP AND SPEAK! We all fight for what is right and instead of attacking those that do fight against the corruption why don't you fight? I guess it is easier to tell others to fight then to fight yourself???? Why are you attacking me? Why don't you do something yourself? Why don't you go to the 19th station and do a protest? Why don't you call out Quinn as I have done in the pass for not serving the community and her silence and compliance???? I have many battles in this city but I am ONE person. I like when I am in a fur demo how people come up to me with their furs and tell me to help the hungry children. They nasty fur coat can feed many children. I am against all police brutality and especially when they falsified reports. IT IS ALL CONNECTED. Stop thinking in little boxes. When we hold the police accountable then all the issues will be addressed including those beatings.
AND GUESS WHAT WHITECASTLE, i bet you didn't even bother to call jessica lappin and complain to her about it. YOU don't do shit but complain when someone does something about something else that you don't care about. DO SOMETHING, GET OFF YOUR FAT ASS AND CALL JESSICA LAPPIN AND IF SHE IGNORES YOU AS SHE IGNORES EVERYONE ELSE THEN VOTE AGAINST HER AND LET THE DISTRICT KNOW ABOUT HER. GUESS WHAT, I BEEN IN A DISPUTE WITH LAPPIN WHO DOES NOTHING FOR UES BUT IS ONLY A QUINN'S CRONY.
I don't have to answer to you pal. I am not attacking you-rather I am attacking your poorly written replies. If you actually learned Engrish I may engage in a healthy discussion. Instead I will just laugh at you while you ejaculate your latest replies into cyberspace...
I AM SORRY felixthecat2----I HAVE NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF THE ONLY WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED IS Chrissie Brodigan who in the FIRST PLACE SAID ANTI-JEWISH REMARKS NONE STOP ONE AFTER ANOTHER TO THIS WONDERFULL OFFICER THAT THE ENTIRE CITY NEEDS VERY BADLY ALSO SHE LIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT WHAT THIS OFFICER DID AND DID NOT DO THIS WOMAN NEEDS TO BE ASHAMED FOR ALL OF HER DISGUSTING LIES THAT SHE HAS SPREAD AND NOW SE HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILY FOR THAT I AM SO SOTTY TO SAY
Yoilish, Efsher tisti yedem einem a toive in shvagst shoin shtil. Di meinst di helfst einem mit deine naarishe commenten? Di vazt nur far yedem az di bist a putz. Nuchdem farshteisti nisht farvoos mezugt az alle chasidim zenen beheimes.
Obviously I love politicks and just another day are the same person. We can see right through you, you pathetic little twit. Real people are trying to have an intelligent dialogue here. Your foolish comments are not welcomed. Go back to the hole you crawled out of and stay there!
THE ONLY WHO MUST BE ASHAMED IS NO OTHER THEN Chrissie Brodigan for all her lies that she spread AND OFFICER JOEL WITRIOL SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE GREAT WORK IN WICH HE IS DOING BY SEARVING THE CITY OF NEWYORK AND ITS RESIDENTS
Yoilish, Efsher tisti yedem einem a toive in shvagst shoin shtil. Di meinst di helfst einem mit deine naarishe commenten? Di vazt nur far yedem az di bist a putz. Nuchdem farshteisti nisht farvoos mezugt az alle chasidim zenen beheimes.
translation anyone?
Something about him being a putz?
Do you so-called "journalists" at Gothamist even purport to be objective? Every time some psychotic retard resists police action and it becomes a news story the NYPD must be lying and fabricating a cover story behind the scenes? Good grief, I think I'm going to go vomit in my tote bag. I've had enough of Gothamist for another month.
"Do you so-called "journalists" at Gothamist even purport to be objective?"
Uh... no, they don't. I've never seen anyone writing for Gothamist claim to be objective in their writing. This is a blog. Go to the Fox News or CNN sites if you want to read something from writers who claim to be objective.
This post, like most on Gothamist, is a commentary on a news story. Commentaries express opinions.
JDS is getting all Woodward and Bernstein on this. It's kind of cute but kind of sad when you realize how much work he's putting into such a dumb, pointless story.
"Yeah, I broke the Sick Pug Cop story..scoop of my life, I tell ya.."
She didn't return your call or request, so she doesn't exist?
After all who wouldn't be dying to be contacted by Gothamist?
What you're suggesting is possible, but the tone of this article sucks.
I agree - bad call on this story. I don't care for the cynical view expressed that the cops and papers are acting in bad faith. Somebody is lying, but you haven't established anything solid yet.
Hey GOTHAMIST/John -
While youre busy tracking down the named witness, maybe you can also substantiate Chrissie's other claims? You know, like how she was beaten by three other prisoners and spit on? It'll be hard for you Johh, because Chrissie Brodigan's stories keep changing.
She is trying to paint herself as a victim and in her most recent storytelling neglects an awful lot of the facts which she'd previously admitted.
She has admitted here and on her other sites (which she's since deleted - wonder why?) that:
- She was verbally abusive to the police officer. She admits to calling him an "asshole" as part of her diatribe of insults.
- She now claims to have had a panic attack.
- She 'doesnt remember' if she hurled anti-Semitic insults at the officer. She said this many times, and now 'remembers' that she did not. Uh huh.
- She admits to resisting arrest, sits on the floor to avoid arrest and then claims brutality because her upper arms have small bruises - bruises which were caused by her forcing the officers to lift her from the floor.
- She initially claimed that the officer "twisted her breasts". When confronted about that claim on another site, she said, "he MAY have been excessive". So, maybe that didn't happen. And maybe he wasn't excessive.
- She now spins this into an anti-woman thing and sends her story and photos to a feminist blog. Anti-woman, because after calling the police officer an 'asshole', refusing all of his instructions, being aggressive and belligerent - he had the nerve to ask her to behave like a lady. Gasp - that'll set back the cause a few hundred years, huh ladies?
- Earlier in the day, she claimed to have been injured by other inmates who punched her and spit on her in jail. (Bringing into question where she got any of her alleged injuries.) This was all forgotten by the time she was on TV.
- Regarding the "witnesses" you cite above, including the photographer - as he states above, he was not there for the entire incident. His girlfriend, who previously said she saw the whole thing, got called out on that when she also said she ran upstairs to call 911. So NEITHER of them saw the whole thing and it's entirely plausible that Chrissie toned it down when the camera was on her.
So, GOTHAMIST/John - let us know when you locate the three prisoners who beat Chrissie. I'm sure she filed a complaint, you know? And let us know when you get the photos of her back punches.
And maybe you should think about apologizing to the cop when you realize you've been played? Just sayin'
Some analysis:
One the one hand we have a police officer with a clean service record and an overriding desire to serve the people of the city. I am also sure that he is aware that he is under extra scrutiny from the public just for being who he is.
On the other hand we have a woman, who any rational objective person who has dome his/her homework, would agree has some serious issues.
Then there are the facts that are undisputed:
The incident took place in public in from of countless onlookers.
Brodigan was carrying a pet on the subway in contravention to the law.
Officer Witriol approached her for the purposes of enforcing the law.
At one point Brodigan became belligerent and combative.
A bystander witnessed the confrontation and called the cops.
Brodigan was arrested.
Now for the facts that are disputed:
Did Brodigan initiate the altercation or was it Witriol?
Did Brodigan hurl anti-semitic invective?
Did Witriol utter sexist remarks?
Did Witriol apply excessive physical force.
Does Brodigan have a medical condition that causes easy bruising?
It stands to reason that officer Witriol initially approached her with good intentions of enforcing the law. He was probably following a directive to enforce this rule. I can then easily see how Brodigan would get confrontational about it. If you have checked her out online you will see that she has many issues in her closet. It also appears that she is highly protective of her pugs. She might have seen herself as protecting her precious pug from the big bad policeman. Since she admits to loosing control and letting loose a string of vitriol against Witriol, it would be highly improbable for her not to have also insulted his background. As far as Witriol’s references to her ‘acting like a women’; I have already offered an explanation elsewhere in this blog as being a purely innocent mistranslation. Think what you want of Witriol, but if you think he is stupid enough to make blatant sexist comments in broad daylight in plain view then you need to explain to me how in the world he made it through the academy.
Many of the people on this site live next to or among hassidim. Over time there have been issues that have caused resentment towards hassidim from frequenters of this site. But if you are truly free thinking open minded liberals as you claim, you should be able to separate out your preconceived attitudes about hassidim and this particular issue and give Officer Witriol the benefit of the doubt.
"Think what you want of Witriol, but if you think he is stupid enough to make blatant sexist comments in broad daylight in plain view then you need to explain to me how in the world he made it through the academy."
While you have some hits and some misses among your points, that one's a wild miss in view of other well documented actions that could be considered "stupid" but were taken by NYPD police officers who have made it through the academy.
Jay, thanks for your partial compliment. Of course I agree with you that cops have done worse. But very rarely when they knew they are being scrutinized.
Besides, I am viewing it from the premise that I know for a fact that his comments were not sexist because I understand exactly what he was really trying to say. I suffer from similar slips of the tongue when I am at a loss for words, and have reach into my reservoir of Yiddish idiom and translate them on the fly.
Fair enough. Then I'd recommend sticking to that point and not using an argument that graduating from the police academy is evidence that he -- or anyone else -- wouldn't be "stupid enough" to do something wrong on the job.
As far as Witriol’s references to her ‘acting like a women’; I have already offered an explanation elsewhere in this blog as being a purely innocent mistranslation.
No, what you offered was an excuse. Your corrected "If you're going to act like a man, I will treat you like a man" translation would tell me that Witriol doesn't believe in Courtesy, Professionalism or Respect for men or women.
Think what you want of Witriol, but if you think he is stupid enough to make blatant sexist comments in broad daylight in plain view then you need to explain to me how in the world he made it through the academy.
Are you serious? You haven't been reading Gothamist very long, have you? Not a week goes by without a report of idiotic misconduct by police officers, culled from the major news sources. Are any of them so brilliant just because they made it through the academy? Explain how Patrick Pogan got through the academy since he was stupid enough to tackle a Critical Mass bicyclist in broad daylight in front of hundreds of potential witnesses with cameras then lie about it on his report.
Spirit of 76 - You are relying on the reportage of Chrissie Brodigan in your characterization of his remarks. You're ignoring all of her changing stories and bizarre remarks and behavior and making up your mind about Officer Witriol.
Is it possible that he said, "act like a lady and I'll treat you like a lady" in response to something Chrissie said or did? That seems the most plausible explanation given all of the facts that we know, most from Chrissie herself and her interviews and posts here.
I'm still waiting for Gothamist to get back with their investigation and request for records corroborating Chrissie's claim that she was beaten in jail by three other inmates, while she was handcuffed. That she was spit on.
I'm still waiting to see the 'witnesses' descriptions of the 'breast twisting' brutality they witnessed and the photographs.
Shall I hold my breath on that???
In other news, someone who claims to be from DC and an old acquaintance of Chrissie's asserts that she has a history of 'crying wolf' when she doesn't get her way. This post was made today on the earliest message on the NYPost. For whatever that's worth.
You're still missing the point. When you're NYPD, you don't get to say, "If you act like such and such, I'll treat you as such and such." CPR. It's their motto. Treat everyone with courtesy, professionalism and respect, unless they're an imminent threat to public safety. Even if someone is acting out, you're supposed to keep your cool. That's what being professional means. And there were witnesses that said Witriol's tone was inappropriate, not just Brodigan's own account. Remember another couple of unprofessional cops from a couple of years ago. They went up to a black guy sitting in an SUV and acted all superior, even laughing at his badge and calling it fake. Too bad for them that the badge was real and the man was an NYPD bureau chief, answerable only to the commissioner. Too many cops and almost all security guards let the power go to their heads.
FWIW, anyone can claim to be anyone in the NY Post comments section, same as here. There are trolls here who claim to have six figures in the bank. Yeah, I guess that's why they hang around posting 20 or 30 comments every day, probably during breaks from their stock trading.
From earlier today at the NYPost:
CRS_adah wrote:
Congratulations and apologies, NYC, for inheriting one of DC's most beloved nutjobs. Good luck with Ms. Brodigan - trust me, you'll need it.
Do a little digging and you will find many a past associate, both personal and professional, who will tell you stories about this woman that are fairly unbelievable at worst, extremely sad at best.
The unfortunate part of this story is that this police officer MAY have been completely out of line. I consider myself a feminist, and if there is a grain of truth to the reports of his actions, he should be dealt with immediately by his supervisors.
But speaking as someone with a personal history witnessing the crazy that is Ms. Brodigan: as many times as she has "cried wolf" or acted inappropriately ... I believe every word these witnesses say about her anti-Semitic remarks.
Please, someone in Ms. Brodgian's family or circle of friends; get her the mental help she needs.
7/2/2009 4:35 PM EDT
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Great. Now gothamist is being taken over by the hassidic community.
What is wrong is the personal attack on this woman. There were witnesses that collaborated her side and the NY post and perhaps even NYPD created "witnesses" to play the race card and divert the real issue of police misconduct.
Funny how "Viane Delgado" doesn't exist no matter the search method....
Funny how I knew this was another Del Signore hit piece on NYPD and Jews before I got halfway through.
(And yes, I read the whole thing, twerp).