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Back in March we learned about just how many people don't stand up for people with disabilities while riding public transit. At the time, NYC Transit's Paul Fleuranges told us about a new campaign coming up, and now CityRoom points out that it's launched. With a firmer tone than the ads have had in the past, the new posters remind straphangers that not all disabilities are visible, and declare that giving up one's seat is "not only polite, it’s the law." Fleuranges commented that "It's the first time we've really stressed this," and warned that those who won't give up their seat on request will face up to a $50 fine. But with robotic trains, a slimmed down staff, and no one on hand to even gauge the effectiveness of the campaign, how will it even be enforced on subways?
Get Up, Stand Up Or Get Fined!
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if my crotch is sore from rubbing against strippers all night long and i have to take the train home smelling like strip-club at 7am, i've got the same right as an old lady
yuk yuk
For that one, you can have my seat any day.
I've often wondered how much these campaigns and the millions of subway grade forms they hand out costs an agency that is too bankrupt to make any changes in the first place.
Just let out a rancid fart..everyone will move to the next car.
what about cutting their nails on the train or about eating stinky food on the train. Could someone stop this?
Witnessed on the 4 train.
One time, I saw this dude pick his nose, roll the booger into a ball and flicked it far into the unknown.
No, he wasn't Chinese.
gross. He should have ate it.
Yes. At least have some courtesy.
so what your saying is the Giant Green asshole has more rights than the Gray Guy with the briefcase...I smell a lawsuit coming...The Green giant may take up more than one seat...and then get fined himself.
If you don't offer up the seat, a big green man will physically remove you from it.
how about making a stroller car during rush hour when the cars are packed.
how about stopping people from peeing between cars.
how about stopping people from cutting their nails.
how about keeping your posts relevant to the story at hand.
How about folding your goddamn stroller and not being such a selfish twat during rush hour. People would be much more likely to give up a seat if they see that you've been considerate enough not to take up even more room on the train because your lazy brat wants the strollee.
but the story is still about people with disabilities, not strollers. take a pill or some primal scream therapy.
So basically anyone can ask for a seat with the threat of a fine on their side. Do they think no one will abuse this?
This is a quality law - though the "upon request" aspect is the most important part.
Too often people just are passive aggressive and assume that the person sitting sees them and is purposefully not getting up.
The reality is that everyone is in their own bubble especially sitting on a subway and it is foolish to assume that the person sitting notices you are pregnant say.
I've seen a woman get completely pissed at one guy and started to scream "are you gonna give up your seat to me?" however she never did not ever just simply ask, "can I have your seat?", she just started to scream after a little while.
Don't be scared.
Just ask.
It will be enforced with the wrath of the Ambiguous Green Giant.
seeing as how not all disabilities are visible, maybe the grey guy has a disability we cannot see
if you can't get off your ass for a disabled person, you deserve to have it kicked. end.
What an insanely big waste of money.
You are campaigning social decency, etiquette. This is taught in the schools and in growing up.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks.
Save the money and move forward with helping the homeless, curing cancer.. you know.. the more important stuff.
it's called courtesy... or at least, that's what it WAS called...
If I even got a dollar for every time my massive, unable to be missed, pregnant belly was in a seated, ignorant person's face, I wouldn't have to play mega millions.
But you don't
Truth is the truth
One one can read your mind
If a person doesn't ask for a seat
It is their own fault.
That is reality.
Don't be scared
Don't be an egotist
Just ask.
Sorry, I just thought you were fat.
Is being pregnant a disability? I do not believe so. My wife went to great lengths NOT to have people fawn on her while she was pregnant.
Pregnant women can get tired very easily. Depends on your physical strength. Plus, if the train makes a sudden break, they could fall. That'd be disastrous!
I always offer my seat to old people and/or pregnant women when I notice. Like some people have said, sometimes your mind is somewhere else and you are not paying attention.
It's ok to ask "can I please have your seat?".
If I didn't knock you up, you're not getting my seat.
My disability is lazy ass. I need to sit down because I'm a lazy ass.
yeah I work for 12.5 hours on my feet and feel fucking disabled after work...you can't have my seat.
"So basically anyone can ask for a seat with the threat of a fine on their side."
The rule only applies to designated and marked "priority seating." If you don't want to have to give up your seat, don't use those.
I have Crohn's. If I stand up I'll shit myself. That's not true (well, the shitting myself part, anyway) but it'll be what I say.
I've never seen that many disabled/handicapped people in the subway before and if I ever see one in a blue moon they definitely always get a seat. Old people usually get a seat and pregnant ladies too. The one's I'm pissed off about are perfectly healthy women who think just cause they pee sitting down they deserve a seat. Hell No!
Also, I think the bigger problem is unless they walk funny or have no legs we can't recognize disabled people. Maybe if they had big electronic pins on their lapels that flashed "I'm a cripple!" and also say it in a electronic voice alarm then it'd be a lot easier for everyone. It worked with the jews in germany with the star of david.
Obese people are really easy to recognize. Some call it a disability. Like, I'm soooo fat!! I need to sit down now! I don't give a shit if my thighs ooze out over the the people next to me rendering them unable to exit in the case of an emergency. I'm going tho pretend that I don't feel them under the crushing weight of my thunderous thighs.
That said, we need a fat section. If you're super fat, go sit over there in the fat section on top of the other fat people, not on my fucking lap.
My, aren't we fatophobic?
I'm sure your anger at fat people is merely your own body images, anorexia and disordered eating directed outwards - the same rage and loathing you direct outwards in your post is what you feel every morning when you look in the mirror... you see your body as hideous and you find a million and one "flaws" in it.
Ever considered therapy?
Or OA?
Take a look at what I'm responding to. It's a joke...relax.
I saw some fat f*ck push a pregnant woman aside earlier this week in order to beat her to the open seat. Stupid f*cker.
A friend of mine was once shoved so hard when getting on the subway in Brooklyn that she fell to the floor. She was 7 months pregnant at the time.
The pusher -- a middle-aged Polish guy -- stepped over her to get to a seat.
How's that for courtesy, folks?
Personally, I always give up my seat to pregnant ladies and people with small (non-stroller) children. However, it is easy to get caught up in your own little world and not necessarily notice if someone is pregnant, even if she is right in front of you.
I recently got on a rush-hour uptown D and there were two women with strollers which were positioned so that they were blocking the whole aisle from one side to the other. While struggling to get past, I brushed one of the strollers... and that just set the woman off. She kept bitching about me touching her stroller until finally I snapped and said, "IT'S RUSH HOUR, YOU FOOL!" but obviously that didn't make much of an impression on her since she was clearly an idiot to begin with...
i enjoy standing up on the subway. every day is a new adventure.
united we stand.
When giant green featureless people offer you a seat, you better take that seat.
They can have my seat if they'll get up and walk, walk in the name of Jeezus! Hallelujah!
This must be a stupid joke to everyone who ever rides a MTA bus. The driver is just a three feet away as mothers seat their hyper brats in the handicapped seats. Being 75 and carrying groceries is a handicap, not being 6 years-old .
Yeah, I don't know what's up with these parents thinking their children are entitled to a seat. I see more parents letting their children push onto the subway and grab a seat. My mother would have whipped my ass if I did that. My revenge is that I stand over the child, pull out a chocolate bar and start eating it in front of them. Vengeance is a sweet, delicious chocolate bar.
Little enough to ride for free, little enough to ride on your knee.
This sounds like an excuse for the NYPD to write lots of tickets, knowing most folks will pay rather than lose a day's pay to go to court and contest the fine.
In other words this has NOTHING to do with the handicapped - it's all about the REVENUE !!!!!
I can guarantee you that the number of tickets actually written for this will not exceed the cost of the signage. It is virtually impossible to enforce, and nobody is going to be riding the subway to enforce it.