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In other Flight 1549 news, the city and Port Authority are embarking on a plan to kill at least 2,000 pesky Canada geese living within 5 miles of airports. Mayor Bloomberg said, "The serious dangers that Canada geese pose to aviation became all too clear when geese struck US Airways Flight 1549. The incident served as a catalyst to strengthen our efforts in removing geese from - and discouraging them from nesting on - city property near our runways."
The NY Times explains the first phase of Operation: Goose Be Gone starts "next week, during the goose molting season, when the birds shed old wing feathers and are less mobile, and continue until the end of July. The immediate culling effort — in which the birds will be euthanized — will cost as much as $100,000...The 40 parks in Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx will include Fort Totten and Flushing Meadows-Corona; culling will also take place at city properties like wastewater-treatment plants." Deputy Mayor Ed Sklyer said, “Clearly, geese are a threat to aviation safety, and we can’t count on miracles."
Other measures reported by the Post (which can now claim victory in its war against the birds) include: "Training airport supervisors as certified shotgun instructors, so they can shoot birds in 'emergency" situations,'" "Enhancing a falconry program, which involves training birds of prey to scare off the geese or attack them," and "Installing a new bird radar pilot program at JFK." Another interesting fact: The Flight 1549 was a US Airways Airbus 320, whose engines can "withstand a strike of up to seven birds weighing 1.5 pounds without shutting down, or one 4-pound bird without catching fire or breaking apart." But the geese that hit Flight 1549 were about 8 pounds each.
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Bloomberg is one cold motherfucker.
Can you offer an alternative?
Note, I am not against this action because birds around the airports are dangerous, I just think it's hollow to cite the Flight 1549 incident.
Note: you are an asshole for supporting this cruelty.,
If I were a goose I'd rather be put to sleep than liquefied by a turbine.
they will be shot not put to sleep IDIOT
Read the article before you call people idiots, plz.
There are guys with shotguns for use in very limited situations, but the 2,000 number in the headline will involve rounding them up and putting them to sleep with CO2.
not sleep but GASSED, quite CRUEL
Shot in emergency cases but you're right on the IDIOT part. There are a lot of asshole posters on this site. Indispensable Mayor Bloomberg running for 3rd term can't resolve this issue without killing these birds for doing what birds do - fly.
The Canada Goose population has become artificially large over the past several years as a result of humans, which is not healthy for planes, people nor the geese themselves.
Not artificially large and their eggs can be destroyed to control their numbers.
WAR ON GEESE.
give me a fucking break!!!! we are in the 21st century, and airbus, boeing, mcdonnel-douglas, grumman, lockheed etc cannot develop a technology to prevent objects from causing engine trouble??!!! where do they get their aviation, aeronautics, mechanical science, engineering degrees? whatsommotta u? assholes!
You have an appropriate screen name. First, those companies don't design and build jet engines. Pratt & Whitney, GE and Rolls-Royce do. And no, it's not as easy as you think to build an indestructible engine. Someone who actually studied engineering could tell you that.
So the geese weighed eight pounds. How much do the cats weigh? The ones that the PA wanted to eliminate from the JFK environs. I'm still waiting for the PA to cite just one instance of feline body ingestion in a jet engine.
I support this -- better some geese than a planeload of people. But, damn, did you have to go with a cute picture of fuzzy little yellow baby ones? They're fuckin' adorable little plane-killers, aren't they?
how is a plane killed dumbass?
Really? That's the problem you have with my post -- the use of a bad metaphor? But, hey, sometimes linguistic crimes are the worst.
Alrighty, then. Take your meds, darlin'.
Dumbass the cat. Have you ever heard the phrase "Kill the engine?" Go have a tuna sandwich and maybe your brain will start functioning again.
Thespis the comment was directed to Felixthecat2.
besides nearly killing jet-setting humans, geese poop kills the grass too. so we've got that going for us.
One more thing JCS. You don't know anything about geese and their migratory patterns. They don't all fly south, north, east, or west anymore. I have those foul fowl sitting on my pond in the dead of winter as long as there is some open water. They skid across the ice and go plop into the open water.
Normally the goslings will be able to take flight in late June/ early July and go to the Poconos for their summer vacation. But they return in September and stay forever.
They are not a rare species.
The picture shown above was probably taken a week or two ago when they still look cute. They will be into their "teenage" years shortly and are not very cute and fuzzy.
damn snoopy lol
thanks for that geese info
how do you get rid of your pond problem?
as for this situation
there HAS to be some type of population control regarding the geese..it sucks but it has to be done one way or another.
There are several ways to alleviate the goose problem, but unfortunately they are local solutions. A cousin of mine who is the grounds keeper of a tata ivy league girl's school told me there is a chemical that they spread on the ground that makes the grass taste bitter and the geese leave to find tastier food. The problem is it is very expensive and needs to be reapplied after every rain. Not a good lasting solution.
The next solution is a water dog who keeps chasing the geese until they get fed up with the annoyance and leave. Fine but wont work for the marshlands around most airports.
Thirdly there are sonic devices that imitate the sound of a goose in distress. This again is a local deterrent. All the geese do is move off to another area.
So my final suggestion is to just shoot the pests and feed their bodies to the homeless. And save their feathers to make comforters for those that need same. Or let the homeless die in the street from starvation and exposure. It's kind of a give and take situation. I personally don't care which of the two survive.
That's really not nice what you said about hotstepper or Thespis.
A goose lives approximately 24 years and they are mature at about two to three years to start "doing it", so their teenage years are measured in months not years.
BTW have you ever seen a real live goose - face to face I'm talking - close enough that they can snap at your little weenie?
Simple question: which life is more tantamount, a goose or a human's?
Patiently awaiting the reply of the PETAphiles,
Good question. And a hard one to answer. Maybe JCS or FelixtheIdiot2 can answer that question.
I really think that humanity should go back to a basic hunter gatherer kind of system. More gatherer perhaps, then the men don't have to work. You can't beat a good meal of dormant buds in the middle to late winter sitting around a fire of dried buffalo dung.
why what do you know? bloomberg has a statement on this but none on the Rabbi giving preferential treatment to Jews.
I hope they save all that goose fat for the Passover Seder...
OK so it's decided. Kill all Canadian geese that show up in the five boros by any means possible.
All in favor?
The problem is that these buggers have no predators, a year round food supply, always open water, no need to migrate. Addling eggs doesn't work, they re-lay. Repellents don't work, they just return or displace. Now they're just like rats and pigeons. They foul waterways and grounds, compete with other species for resources, and dump feces loaded with Giardia everywhere. And occasionally interact with aircraft in ways that put not just passengers in peril, but also little kids, kittens and carriage horses on the ground. The solution is population control through "removal", and that means killing them. I would not advise feeding them to anyone, including the homeless, as the non-migratory population spends its time grazing on chemical-laden lawns. Maybe some way to mulch them for some other use (NOT pet food)?
lol sh!t
id go with the feed the geese to the homeless
At least not much is going to waste and that makes sense
Those other choices just don't make sense its avoiding the issue of overpopulation of a species in that area.We cant have city budget at this time halfassed versions of "clean up geese go go shoo away".There are other solutions such as this one which have to be taken into action and maybe implemented into it over time a non lethal solution.
lol sh!t
id go with the feed the geese to the homeless
At least not much is going to waste and that makes sense
Those other choices just don't make sense its avoiding the issue of overpopulation of a species in that area.We cant have city budget at this time halfassed versions of "clean up geese go go shoo away".There are other solutions such as this one which have to be taken into action and maybe implemented into it over time a non lethal solution.
I prefer Evil Overlord. Better benefits and no term limits.
You raise a good point. Humans aren't the only ones put in danger by these geese.
JCS & Felix: If a shipment of kittens had drowned in the cargo hold of US 1549, how would you feel about the geese issue?
Ha!
Ha! You can't make this shit up!
Only 2000? We should cull 20K of those dirty & aggressive poop machines. Feed them to the homeless, if that makes anyone feel better.
@JCS Wow. You spent more than 6 hours (1st comment 6:18 last comment 12:18)commenting on a blog post. On a really nice Friday night no less. That is dedication.
119 commnents, really? From 6pm to 12am?
Seriously, Friday night people. Every one this thread needs to get a life.
As you read above, cowardice and ignorance support cruelty. If anyone reads this then report Snoopy for his comment about screwing a 14 year old. The above thread shows me that they and not the geese should be exterminated for our own safety
I worked in a psychology lab at university wherein I was responsible for the care and feeding and later euthanization of rats. We used CO2. While I hated having it be my responsibility, they did basically go to sleep from the lack of O2. Not supporting this measure at the airport one way or the other, just stating experience with the method which, to my untrained eye, seemed as humane as one could expect.
Snoopy's comment about " screwing his 14 year old neighbor hottie" has been removed. I think he should be removed from this site. No pedipholes allowed
Get back on subject. Do you have a solution to the geese problem?
One other thing. You can not relocate them because they return to their "place of birth" and breeding grounds.
I wonder what they will do with all the carcasses. Seems like a waste of lots of perfectly good food. Have you seen how much goose goes for at a nice butcher shop? And goose liver pâté is fantastic. I think they should figure out a way to harvest them for food. Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
HONK!
Maybe they teach geese.
kill the geese save the peeps...rather have 2000 dead birds than another tragic accident survival of the fittest while we're at it lets kill all the pigeons too we can leave the dead carcasses for the rats too eat
This, you guys, is very cruel. I mean, thanks to human decimation, geese were almost extinct by the 1950s. To restore populations, geese were relocated to areas where they had never been found before. As a result, geese have adapted to urban and suburban areas, remaining there year-round. And New York has 14 MILLION people, so if they care to kill 2000 geese, why not 2000 people? A life is a life guys, and there is seriously nothing more amazing than seeing the geese migrate. Thanks to HUMANS, which feed them, and interact with them, they don't leave cities. I hate how the WORLD POPULATION OF CANADA GEESE IS ONLY 6 MILLION, COMPARED TO THE 7 BILLION HUMANS, and people think there are too many. Seriously? Want to gas geese? Gas me as well!