Police Looking At Central Park Bicyclist Vs. Driver Incident

You can, in fact, hold on to the hood of a car that is driving at 45 mph without falling off. Furthermore, you can hold onto the car even if it stops fairly short. This was recently tested on a Discovery Channel TV show.

So, it's not unlikely that this Dooda guy got jacked up on the Fox news guy's car and pulled along for a while.

But more importantly, look at the argument people are making.

1. Dooda was riding in the street, which he has a right to do - it's just obnoxious to do that.

2. Being obnoxious like that makes it okay to cut off a bicyclist, which could result in serious injury, so when Broderick cut Dooda off that was ok.

4. Dooda's angry response to being cut off like that was legal but obnoxious.

5. Such obnoxiousness makes it okay to try to run someone over, possibly killing them, so Broderick's attempt to run over Dooda was permissible.

In short: being obnoxious makes it okay for someone to try to kill you.

By that logic, it would be okay to try to kill most of the people who post on Gothamist - including the defenders of Broderick.

Now, as much as I would _LIKE_, simply out of annoyance at your obnoxious idiocy with regards to defending this Broderick goon, to swing my bike chain around you dildo-necked jerks with all the force I can muster, thereby causing horrible and permanent damage, I think that would be morally wrong, as well as legally dubious. So, I will hold in my rage, and simply vent using words or not at all, as my kindergarten teacher taught me.

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In 2009, facing unprecedented climatic and economic challenges, it is morally reprehensible to drive a car in a place like New York, where there plenty of more civilized transportation options. Dooda has the high ground. sj, matty, UnrepentantFenian: wake the fuck up.

"it is morally reprehensible"

You sound like a puritan. Next you'll be burning Catholics for the selling of indulgences.

catholicism is similarly reprehensible

In 2009, facing unprecedented climatic and economic challenges, it is morally reprehensible to drive a car in a place like New York, where there plenty of more civilized transportation options. Dooda has the high ground. sj, matty, UnrepentantFenian: wake the fuck up.

Thank you for expertly illustrating my point.

My gut feeling is we're not getting the whole story from Dooda -- there indeed may have been an altercation but if he was really dragged 200 feet he'd be in the hospital getting his road rash debrided.

You can never really trust someone who thinks that what they are doing is some sort of moral imperative because those kinds of people are willing to be very dishonest in pursuit of what they perceive as a higher purpose. Dooda's statements make him sound like one of those people and as such, I read his account with a healthy dose of skepticism.

But hey I wasn't there. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle of Dooda's and Broderick's stories, as is often the case in these kinds of things.

"if he was really dragged 200 feet he'd be in the hospital getting his road rash debrided."

He isn't claiming that he was dragged as in under the vehicle, but that he was on the hood while it drove that far, then fell off when it stopped.

Ah yes you are right, mea culpa. I now recall that detail from initially reading about it yesterday. I don't know that I would call that a "dragging" but then again I'm not sure what I would call it instead.

I stand by the rest of my comment though.

I should clarify that I don't disbelieve Dooda entirely, I just feel there's probably more to the story and that he might be minimizing his own contributions to the altercation out of his own self-interest, or "the cause" or whatever. Regardless, it is WAY NOT OK for a car driver to intentionally ram a bicyclist, no matter how much of a jerkoff the cyclist is. This road rage crap isn't worth getting hurt/killed or hurting/killing someone else for. Say your f-you's to each other and move on with your lives.

In the other article Dooda even ADMITS to attacking the guy:

"But did I attack him? If he considers me pointing out that he is an aggressive and dangerous driver to be an attack, yes."

He was infuriated that he was cut-off by a driver so he pursued him and attacked him.

I don't see why Gothamist is being so sympathetic to this kid. It sounds like he has road-rage issues himself!

Also, where are this kid's injuries? What about his bike? This whole thing sounds like a flaming load of bullshit and a giant excuse to justify aggressive and provoking behavior on the part of the cyclist.

Matty, that's bullshit and you know it. When Dooda "admitted" to attacking the driver he was referring to verbally yelling at Broderick at a red light - at a complete stop - AFTER almost being side swiped.

Regardless of how abusive the verbal attack, THE DRIVER RAMMED INTO THE CYCLIST...TWICE.

And you're calling the cyclist a psychopath?

Wouldn't you be infuriated if a car intentionally tried to side swipe you? I think yelling at the driver is a pretty restrained reaction one can have in that situation.

Now, Broderick claims that Dooda punched him. Are you kidding me? The SUV has an elevated window line and you expect a guy straddling a bike in clipless bike shoes and cleats to somehow scoot over and awkwardly try to punch some guy in the driver's seat and succeeding? Then the cyclists decides to scoot to the front of the SUV and stands around waiting for a reaction? I smell manure.

Let's even assume that Dooda actually did punch Broderick. Does that justify ramming his 2 ton vehicle into someone?...TWICE??

There were witnesses that corroborate Dooda's story and the mere fact that jaded NYers took down the driver's license plate numbers tells me that some serious shit went down.

This Dooda kid sounds like a psychopath. Can someone say "needless victimization"?? This whole thing is stemming from Dooda's "road rage" not the other way around. Dooda intentionally grabbed on to this man's vehicle. He harassed the guy in only the way someone who thinks they are some sort of martyr can. If I was Broderick I would have gunned it too. This guy sounds like a maniac and who knows what he would have done to the driver had he not tried to get away.

Uh no, this stems from Broderick nearly side swiping Dooda for "going too slow" in the left lane. That's the road rage. Dooda merely mouth off to the driver.

"Dooda intentionally grabbed on to this man's vehicle."

What are you babbling about?

Yet another example of the mayhem caused by out-of-control suburban drivers.

I say ban em all!

Like city drivers are any better!?

Why do people always think one area has better drives than others?

Obviously the people who are from the same place that you are from are better drivers. Also, the greater distance from where you live, the worse of a driver they are.

For example, a city driver thinks that suburban drivers suck, but those pricks from Jersey are even worse, and don't even get me started on the goddamn Chinese.

See how that works?

I agree that they both suck, but people who drive in the city are slightly better; I think they're more used to all of the distractions. I've seen suburban drivers and out-of-towners accidentally forget they cannot take right turns on red lights. Locals almost never make that mistake.

Dooda is a vigilante. He was intentionally riding the left lane to slow down cars. He picked a fight and lost. Let it go man.

Looks like Broderick is in deep Dooda.